Did Patriots trade Milton too soon?

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Wait... How far is Joe Milton throwing the football?! Did Patriots trade him so soon? Do you agree with Scheim?

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00:00shine some abuse heading your way on the subaru of new england text line this morning i know you

00:06wanted to address that yeah it's the dumbest thing i can possibly read today uh it's probably

00:12ken layered from some burners but here we go 860 text milton would have beat may out when may

00:19sucks and milton's a top five quarterback in the league shine will be exposed as a fraud

00:25401 text milton is so much better than drake may and shine cannot see it it's also funny that he

00:34mentions when drake may has a good day at training camp but then uh when he has a bad day he just

00:38says oh it's just training camp not the case but okay i mean the man did throw the longest pass in

00:45nfl history right great good 75 yards he's got an absolute cannon greg it's it's interesting the nfl

00:53tells you when when trades happen the nfl tells you exactly exactly how valuable a commodity is

00:59joe milton was traded for a fifth round pick which is the equivalent which is actually less

01:05than what the eagles got for kenny pickett who stinks well the patriots got randy moss for a fourth

01:12round pick and he had the best season in the history of the sport yeah but when he was coming

01:15from the raiders he was not having success with oakland but you can't just say that what you're

01:20traded for is your actual value i mean there's mitigating circumstances i i listen i mean at

01:24the time you're traded yes that was the value like that's what the league believed the value was

01:28yeah but that what curtis is saying is you can't predict the future just based off that like if he

01:33gets a chance down in texas then who knows joe milton could end up being pretty good he's not going

01:37to get a chance but i'm telling you right now the rest of the nfl doesn't view him as a starting

01:42quarterback in the nfl like not even close he'll get a chance because if if you know

01:47guys get nicked up and if that prescott misses a game then you'll get to see what joe milton is

01:53i bet we see him well i agree i think there's a chance you might see the texters are going off of

02:00the opportunity that they got to see last season with joe milton which he won a football game that

02:05the buffalo bills wanted to lose but but doesn't the return really make ken's point that like what

02:11was the rush then like if you're not getting vrabel didn't want him in the building right i know

02:16the i get that what i'm in the middle of saying is that if the organization wants competition

02:21vrabel's main gig at the patriots was creating a culture with wiggie and willie mcginnis and all

02:28these guys that brought in a massive amount of in-house competition so that no game was too big

02:35why are you precluding a guy from competing against someone that you know is much better

02:40well maybe vrabel doesn't care about the competition curtis like that's an issue right

02:45no is it no it's not on any other nfl team yeah you don't want how did jimmy g hurt tom brady yeah

02:51but that was at the end of brady like brady at that point was what 38 years old brady also wanted

02:56him up and out of here right and they didn't and it made brady better no but brady they never brought

03:01anybody into bill eventually was forced to trade him right right well brady's also a completely

03:07different specimen than every other quarterback if we're going to be fully transparent bill wanted

03:11jimmy g to replace tom before he was 40 which would have been the dumbest decision in the history of

03:15the sport right but they never they never brought anybody in to compete with brady early in his career

03:20like drake may a similar situation when did they bring somebody in to compete with brady in 06

03:25castle no that castle's under kevin o'connell no zach robinson well they brought in rodney

03:30harrison and mike rabel who no no but competed their ass off against him

03:34no i'm talking about the position okay then why didn't they bring in better or even more

03:39defensive players to compete against drake may curtis like that's that's fine they went nuts

03:43into free agency okay so they did bring in people to compete with drake may but you said they they got

03:47rid of the guy who would compete with drake may right they the quarterback room is too you're talking

03:52about two different positions what are you in the court the two different positions they had never brought

03:56in they did not bring in a quarterback to compete with brady early in his career once he became the

04:04starter and he started having the reporting is around drake may and the need to immediately get

04:09rid of joe milton was that joe milton thought he had a chance to compete for the job right and that

04:15drake may's leadership was being stifled right right which is which is you want to get rid of a guy

04:20who feels like he should be starting when you drafted a guy number is saying that everybody on that team

04:28traditionally you would want them to feel like they should be but that's not true like you want

04:33that in a brian hoyer never thought for a day he was going to start behind tom brady that's not true

04:39but didn't he approach his work like he thought he should be no he he prepared like okay i might be a

04:46starter but they never brought in a guy that to compete with tom right and that you just don't do

04:54that because what you're doing is creating a problem in the locker room if there hadn't been

05:00a guy there i i will i will join curtis curtis's side in this argument for a minute if there hadn't

05:06been a guy there to compete with drew bledsoe you may have never discovered tom brady but tom brady

05:13wasn't brought in to compete with drew bledsoe tom brady was was drafted milton wasn't brought in to

05:19compete with drake may right but if you listen to ordway and the belichick rump swabs out there they'll

05:23say brady beat him out in training camp right they were ready to make the move like but that's

05:28the difference though tom brady before he could have competition was already a super bowl champion

05:33it's different drake may has won one football game in the nfl right but they but the the thing is

05:40entering 2002 tom brady was the super bowl champion and then in 2002 he led the nfl in touchdown passes

05:45right right we know that so it's drake may as i just said won a game as a player yeah but drake may

05:51was the third overall pick and then the guy that you drafted same year as a six-round draft pick

05:57if he's saying he feels like he's better than your third overall pick you have a problem you can't

06:04because your third overall pick is only one year in you can't have a guy in there who's going around

06:11saying i'm better than this guy when well it'll be seen by everyone if he is right i mean he's

06:18clearly not according to you guys so no no because the problem is he might throw the ball to more guys

06:25and they might build a relationship with him and those guys might be like oh you're better than drake

06:29may you think it's close drake may versus joe milton wiggie no it's not even close no so then if

06:34you're a receiver on that team why do you want a bad quarterback but if you feel like you have a

06:38connection with him who's not good at his job but i'm not saying he's not good at his job they're not

06:43even close no there's a difference between being not close as a talent and not good at your job right

06:48so if if joe milton is the third string quarterback and he's throwing passes and i'm pop douglas and i'm

06:56catching balls and we built this relationship with each other he might say hey you know what you are

07:03better than drake may because he's got this relationship with him all right but if they're not

07:07close to being as good i don't understand that the problem is you create a problem in the locker

07:14room when guys view joe milton as oh i have a better relationship when i have a better chance of

07:21getting more passes yes you've been in locker rooms so i will i will take your word on that yeah it

07:27just becomes an issue you know can you give me an example of a quarterback that sucked that players

07:31wanted to play for over the guy that was good but we're not saying i'm not saying joe milton sucks

07:37though wait but so i don't understand i mean some people said that you can't judge that based off

07:42shyma's right one game in which uh buffalo had their scrum no no no no look at joe milton's entire

07:49history his body of work from college to the pros he's not that good i'm not saying joe milton sucks

07:54because i don't know we haven't seen him play i know when i was there with brady in 2000 brady was

07:59the fourth quarterback on the depth shot but i would have a good relationship with him when we

08:04would run scout team so you could lean towards a guy and go hey tom you know what you might be better

08:10than those other guys in front of you yeah all right well 75 yarder from joe milton yesterday

08:18little milton magic in dallas hey

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