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During a House Appropriation Committee markup meeting held before the Congressional recess, Rep. Mike Levin (D-CA) spoke about rescissions.
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00:00I now recognize the distinguished gentleman from South Carolina, Mr. Clyburn, to offer a Democratic en bloc amendment.
00:10Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
00:12Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk, and of course, the reading will be dispensed with.
00:19The gentleman is, without objection, the amendment is dispensed with, and the gentleman is recognized to explain his amendment.
00:32Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
00:33Mr. Chairman, we have a choice today.
00:35We can either do the bare minimum to maintain assistance for the millions of Americans that rely on rental assistance for stable housing and homelessness services for shelter,
00:46or we can make our country's housing crisis worse.
00:51The Republicans' bill before us threatened to push over 400,000 households off assistance or out of stable housing,
01:01where they will be faced with evictions and homelessness, not because they did anything wrong,
01:07but because Congress chose to pretend to balance the budget on the backs of our most vulnerable neighbors.
01:16My amendment would help forge a different path for this bill.
01:21Now, let's be clear about what we are talking about.
01:24When we cut $770 million from Section 8 vouchers and fall $3 billion short of what is needed just to renew existing assistance,
01:37we're not just cutting numbers on a spreadsheet.
01:40We're cutting the lifeline for 140,000 families who will face eviction.
01:48When we slice public housing by 17%, we are falling short of what is needed to prevent the eviction of 230,000 low-income households
01:59and putting resident health and safety at risk at PHAs to foregoar necessary repairs.
02:07The Republican majority claims this bill promotes fiscal responsibility,
02:13but there's nothing fiscally responsible about worsening the homelessness crisis.
02:19The bill falls short of the renewal need for the continuum of care programs that provide shelter and services to people
02:30experiencing homelessness in every district, meaning 28,000 fewer people will get off the streets.
02:40It eliminates youth homelessness programs, abandoning our most vulnerable young people.
02:48This isn't governing.
02:49It's an abdication of our responsibilities on this committee.
02:53This bill fails to meet the needs of those who have no other options.
02:59123,000 low-income seniors would face eviction from their Section 202 housing.
03:08Over 39,000 households with disabilities could lose Section 811 assistance.
03:15These aren't just statistics.
03:17These are our constituents, working families, seniors, on fixed incomes, veterans, and people with disabilities.
03:28But inadequate funding levels are not the only threat the most vulnerable Americans contain in this bill.
03:37This bill also contains a provision that will provide unprecedented sweeping waiver authority for HUD,
03:46allowing the Secretary significant discretion to up-end rental assistance and public housing programs
03:54by ignoring key statutory requirements such as income definitions, rent calculations, and eligibility requirements.
04:05This dangerous authority is an abdication of our responsibility as legislators,
04:12and it would pave the way for work requirements.
04:16True limits and higher rents with no guardrails or assistance that the most vulnerable are protected.
04:24My amendment would ensure that sufficient funding is provided to continue housing and homelessness assistance
04:34for the most vulnerable Americans, prevent hundreds of thousands of evictions,
04:39and ensure that the HUD Secretary cannot rip assistance away from already working families.
04:47It also restores funding for other critical HUD responsibilities, including fair housing enforcement,
04:56which is sliced by 67% in this bill.
05:01Our civil rights laws are only as strong as their enforcement.
05:05That's why Congress has consistently granted funds for state and local fair housing enforcement training programs
05:13and HUD professionals who investigate discrimination complaints and ensure compliance.
05:20I ask my colleagues to join me in supporting this amendment to fulfill our most basic responsibilities in this bill and our year back.
05:32I thank the gentleman.
05:34The gentleman from Arkansas is recognized to respond to the amendment.
05:37I thank the chairman, and I rise in opposition to the amendment.
05:41First and foremost, I can't support the amendment because it causes the bill to exceed our allocation.
05:47If adopted, it would prevent this bill from going to the floor.
05:50We need this bill to go to the floor.
05:53This bill responsibly funds housing rental assistance programs.
05:57It provides the fiscal 25 level for tenant-based rental assistance and inflationary increases for project-based rental assistance,
06:04housing for the elderly, and housing for the disabled.
06:08The combined level for these four programs is $50 billion.
06:12That's a modest increase from FY25.
06:16We also provide new flexibilities to public housing authorities so they can stretch their dollars
06:21and serve just as many households in FY26 as they're supporting currently.
06:27In recent years, the cost of HUD rental assistance programs have skyrocketed,
06:32only in part, though, due to inflation.
06:35During and after COVID, HUD had struggled with non-payment of rent by tenants,
06:41along with over a billion dollars in improper payments.
06:45My colleagues on the other side have advocated for the expansion of HUD rental assistance.
06:49Our approach, though, is to contain the growth of these programs
06:54and help these families move beyond subsidies and move toward self-sufficiency.
07:01We should all have that as a goal.
07:04Let me be clear.
07:05Capping the growth of rental subsidies and providing tools to relieve administrative burdens will not,
07:10I say again, will not result in evictions.
07:14With that, Mr. Chairman, I would urge a no vote on the amendment.
07:19I thank the gentleman, the gentleman from Georgia, Mr. Bishop.
07:22Oh, excuse me.
07:24Okay.
07:25The gentleman from Georgia, Mr. Bishop, is recognized for his comments on the amendment.
07:29Thank you, Mr. Chair.
07:31I rise in support of the gentleman's amendment.
07:34In my opening remarks, I pointed out how this bill will abandon those who cannot meet the most basic human needs of shelter.
07:43This bill cuts into Section 8, public housing, and, of course, this amendment would restore low-income housing and homelessness assistance.
07:55It would increase the funding for Section 8, for public housing and for homes assistance grants.
08:02It would maintain youth homelessness demonstration grants, and it would strike the way of authority for work requirements, for rent increases, or for time limits.
08:13It would restore full funding for the fair housing activities, and it would restore funding for the domestic violence survivors set-aside within the continuum of care program.
08:26It would increase funding for Section 202 housing for the elderly.
08:31It would increase funding for Section 811 housing for persons with disabilities, and it would restore funding for VASH.
08:40I ask in my opening statement who could be opposed to providing such assistance, and I ask now for everyone here to put your money where your mouth is
08:54and to vote to restore these essential housing programs.
08:59This is our opportunity to help our constituents, to help themselves, and to help Americans all over this country
09:08to have a better quality of life.
09:11I urge you to adopt this amendment, to improve this bill, and I yield back.
09:18Thank the gentleman.
09:20Gentleman from Maryland is recognized for remarks on the amendment.
09:30I usually forget to turn on the mic.
09:32I know.
09:33I have it on now.
09:34What I said was, they just turned on the mic, and I said what everybody knows, I usually forget to turn on the mic.
09:44I strongly support this amendment.
09:47As everybody knows, I think that Mr. Womack is one of the most responsible and highest integrity members of this committee.
09:57And he is doing what he needs to do, given the constraints that come from it.
10:04But I strongly support this amendment from Representative Clyburn and others to reverse this bill's cut to fair housing programs and other vital government services.
10:16Life's a series of trade-offs.
10:17And if you cut your income revenue by $5 trillion, you've got to find that somewhere, because that's an expenditure.
10:32And we are finding it by looking to cutting programs for the most vulnerable in America.
10:39When I helped pass the Americans with Disabilities Act back in 1990, which was voted upon by the House 403 to 20, one of the most bipartisan votes we've had on any substantial issue that I'll remember.
10:58And the Senate passed it 91 to 6.
11:01My colleagues and I focused a lot on housing discrimination because we knew it was one of the most significant obstacles the disability community faced to living with greater dignity, independence, and equality.
11:16On July 26th of this month, it will be 35 years since that act was signed.
11:23Housing continues to be a major problem for those with disabilities.
11:28Housing discrimination remains a problem today, generally, considering that less than 5% of America's housing is accessible.
11:38Think of that.
11:39Less than 5% of housing today is accessible to those with disabilities.
11:46Predictably, that's why 53% of all housing discrimination complaints were filed by people with disabilities.
11:53This bill would make it even harder for these Americans to find a home by cutting the local fair housing activities by 67%.
12:04That includes severe reductions to the Fair Housing Initiatives Program, which funds nonprofits across the country that together process 75% of all fair housing complaints nationwide.
12:20The program dates back to the Reagan administration.
12:26We shouldn't be politicizing it.
12:28We certainly shouldn't be cutting it.
12:30This amendment will reverse this cut, ensuring that the voices of Americans with disabilities and others who face discrimination in housing won't be ignored, won't be silent, won't be heard.
12:44I ask my colleagues to support this amendment.
12:48I yield back.
12:51Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
12:52The gentlelady from Florida, Ms. Wasserman Schultz, is recognized for comments on the amendment.
13:04Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
13:05Thank you to Ranking Member Clyburn for offering this amendment to restore critical funding to combat homelessness in the United States.
13:13Since FY18, a portion of the funding in the Continuum of Care Homelessness Assistance Grant Program has been set aside to help prevent homelessness among victims of domestic violence, stalking, and sexual assault.
13:25This funding has helped victim service organizations provide even more survivors with the assurance they need to leave their abusers, knowing they have a safe place to lay their head at night.
13:35Despite immense progress, there remains a critical need to expand these life-saving housing programs for survivors and their children.
13:42According to the National Network to End Domestic Violence, during just one day in 2024, over 8,000 women across the country who requested emergency shelter, transitional housing, or rapid rehousing programs were denied housing due to lack of resources.
13:57To put this into perspective, around 15% of survivors who were seeking housing within a 24-hour period were left without a secure place for them and their children.
14:06But instead of expanding this initiative, this bill cruelly cuts its dedicated funding altogether.
14:14It is unthinkable that we would strip thousands of survivors of the services they count on to rebuild their lives.
14:21For victims of domestic violence in particular, not having their own place to live can be a matter of life and death.
14:28We know that a victim of domestic violence is often forced to return to an abuser if leaving means homelessness.
14:33When a survivor makes the brave decision to leave their abuser, it is our job to ensure that they have the support and the resources they need to break abusive cycles.
14:43This means funding comprehensive, long-term solutions to ensure their safety and the safety of their families.
14:49Mr. Clyburn's amendment would do just that.
14:52By restoring dedicated funding for the Domestic Violence Sexual Assault Bonus Program,
14:56we can continue to provide hope and care for victims who might otherwise face a lifetime of danger and insecurity.
15:02I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this amendment, and I yield back.
15:06Thank you, gentlelady.
15:07The gentlelady from New Jersey, Ms. Watson Coleman, is recognized for remarks on the amendment.
15:18Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
15:20I rise in support of this amendment that would restore funding to fair housing activities,
15:26specifically to the Fair Housing Initiatives Program.
15:29Fair housing is not merely something we ought to enforce.
15:33It's the law, and it's the civil right.
15:37This bill slashes funding for fair housing activities by 67%, gutting our ability to investigate discrimination
15:45and educate communities about their rights.
15:49That includes eliminating the Fair Housing Initiatives Program, which provides grants to local nonprofits
15:55that investigate and resolve housing discrimination complaints.
15:59Cuts to fair housing enforcement don't just weaken federal policy.
16:04They leave states like New Jersey vulnerable to renewed exclusionary zoning, local resistance, and civil rights erosion.
16:13Without federal backing, state-level mandates like New Jersey's Mount Laurel-based affordable housing laws,
16:20will they risk being undermined?
16:22Even with reform, local resistance persists.
16:26Without robust federal funds and programs like the Fair Housing Initiatives Program and translated materials, grants, communities, etc.,
16:37with less legal infrastructure or resources, are at a risk of seeing discrimination go unchecked.
16:45Restoring full funding to fair housing activities, programs that protect our civil rights nationwide,
16:52and ensure that states like New Jersey with highly contentious affordable housing implementation don't crumble under local resistance.
17:00You know, we must preserve not just the law, but the tools to enforce it.
17:05And we must remember what our history has shown us as it relates to fairness in the access to housing.
17:14I want to remind my friends on the other side that I meet on the elevators and in the apartment buildings,
17:21that I know that I know that these cuts don't represent who you are and what you believe in,
17:27in terms of not addressing the needs of the most vulnerable, the minority, the disabled, and the veteran in our society as it relates to housing.
17:40So we can't, in good conscience, just say to you that it is okay to support the agenda of a president
17:49who, with his father, had access to immense housing in the state of New York
17:55and intentionally discriminated against people of color that look like me and having access to that housing.
18:03This is not the direction in which we want to go as this country is supposed to stand on its values of equality and opportunity and fairness for all.
18:18So I ask you, please, in your heart, support this amendment and any other opportunity you have
18:27to ensure that you are meeting the needs of the most vulnerable in our communities.
18:35You feed the homeless.
18:37You feed the hungry.
18:38You shelter the homeless.
18:40You clothe the naked.
18:42You visit the prisoners.
18:45And you accept the visitation of the strangers.
18:49That is who we are.
18:51That is who we've been.
18:52And if we call ourselves Christians, and many of us do, that is what Christ has said.
18:58So I stand in support of this amendment, and I ask you to do the same.
19:04Thank you, gentlelady.
19:05The gentlelady from Pennsylvania is recognized for remarks on the amendment.
19:16I thank the chairman.
19:18I rise in support of Mr. Clyburn's amendment.
19:21I want to take a moment to talk about my portion, small portion, of this en bloc,
19:27which would increase funding for Section 811 housing for persons with disabilities.
19:33As we all know, Section 811 is a program that develops and subsidizes rental housing
19:38with the necessary accommodations and supportive services for the very or extremely low-income
19:45adults with disabilities.
19:48This bill put before us today provides $262 million for Section 811 housing for persons
19:56with disabilities.
19:57That is a $3.1 million cut that would be required to continue affordable housing assistance for
20:05those more than 39,000 households with disabilities without risking a funding shortfall that could
20:11lead to further evictions for vulnerable people living on fixed incomes.
20:15So this amendment would simply do that.
20:18It would increase that funding to $265 million, that $3.1 million increase.
20:28We all know we have affordability housing crisis.
20:32This is even greater for the disability community.
20:35The fact is that, sadly, the disabled community is lower income than the general population.
20:40The Urban Institute estimates, and these are 2021 numbers, about one in five disabled people
20:47had extremely low incomes compared to about one in 12 non-disabled people.
20:54And Supplemental Security Income, SSI, is not sufficient to afford decent housing in most of our country.
21:01In 2024, in my home state of Pennsylvania, the average rent on a one-bedroom was 116% of the average SSI payment.
21:12Looking at the national average, the numbers are even worse.
21:15Rent was 142% of the average SSI payment.
21:20Further, people with disabilities disproportionately encounter housing discrimination.
21:25According to the Fair Housing Alliance, over half of housing discrimination complaints are related to discrimination against people with disabilities.
21:35I have seen this in my community and in talking with our local Fair Housing Rights Center in southeastern Pennsylvania.
21:42The Urban Institute estimates that 18 million disabled Americans are eligible for federal housing assistance and are not receiving it.
21:51We cannot afford to underfund this program.
21:54If anything, we need to be investing more, much more.
21:58And so I'll close by thanking the gentleman, Mr. Clyburn, for this amendment that includes the 8-11 support.
22:05And I urge my colleagues to join me in supporting the entire amendment.
22:09I yield back.
22:10Thank the gentlelady.
22:11Gentleman from California, Mr. Levin, is recognized for remarks on the bill, or the amendment.
22:16Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
22:18Colleagues, I hope we can all agree that no veteran should go homeless.
22:22I spent the past six years before serving on appropriations as the lead Democrat on the House Veterans Affairs Subcommittee on Economic Opportunity that has jurisdiction over veteran homelessness.
22:36And working with my Republican colleagues there has been some of the most rewarding work I've done as a member of the House.
22:42That's why I was so disappointed to see the underfunding of HUD-BASH voucher renewals and, perhaps more alarmingly, no funding, none whatsoever, for any new HUD-BASH vouchers.
22:59As of April, there were over 90,000 families in housing, thanks to a HUD-BASH voucher.
23:06But there are still over 32,000 homeless veterans in the United States.
23:12And that means two things.
23:13One is we need more funding in this bill to support the existing vouchers.
23:18And two, we don't have enough vouchers to support the veteran population.
23:22That's why I'm proud to rise in support of this Democratic and Block, which includes my amendment to include $15 million for new HUD-BASH vouchers.
23:31I know this amendment doesn't include an offset.
23:35That's because there are too many other important programs that are underfunded in this bill, also some of which I discussed before.
23:43I personally find it inconceivable that anybody would have set the allocation for this subcommittee so low that we are not even trying to house our homeless veterans.
23:55We haven't even debated the full subcommittee allocation.
23:58So it's absurd to think that we just don't have the money for any new HUD-BASH vouchers.
24:03And I just want to remind everybody, the decisions we make here impact the lives of veterans in every one of our districts.
24:10I want to share the story of one of my constituents named John.
24:13He received an honorable discharge, and then he built an incredible 40-year career in aerospace manufacturing.
24:20But he had a chronic medical condition that left him disabled and ultimately homeless.
24:26And he spent several years navigating life on the streets and in shelters throughout San Diego County.
24:31He connected with an outreach team from one of our amazing service providers in San Diego.
24:36He used grant and per diem funding to stay in a variety of shelters, and he finally secured a HUD-BASH voucher in January of 2025.
24:43And he's doing great.
24:45Without the new funding that I'm proposing here that I hope everybody would support, veterans like John will suffer.
24:53Look, we're either serious about ending veteran homelessness or we're not.
24:56We shouldn't hide behind an arbitrary limit set for this subcommittee, which I remind everyone we have not voted on.
25:05A no on this amendment means that you're okay with 32,000 homeless veterans.
25:11And frankly, it also means, to my point during the opening, that everybody is okay with abdicating their responsibility under a very nice plaque.
25:20Again, Mr. Chairman, Article I, Section 9, Clause 7, that no money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law.
25:29Along those lines, Mr. Chairman, I'd ask unanimous consent to enter into the record a Politico article from earlier this morning.
25:36Without objection.
25:37The title is Russ Vote.
25:40Appropriations process, quote, has to be less partisan.
25:44My colleagues, I hope you read this article.
25:47Less bipartisan.
25:49Excuse me, I buried the punchline.
25:51Russ Vote.
25:52Appropriations process, quote, has to be less bipartisan.
25:56The OMB director said more rescissions packages could soon be headed to the Hill.
26:00Look, I know that if we had a Democrat in the White House and we had a Democratic OMB chair that said this to us, I would tell him to take a walk.
26:10That's ridiculous.
26:11We're the Congress of the United States.
26:12And one of the things he says in here is, and I quote, there is no voter in the country that went to the polls and said, I'm voting for a bipartisan appropriations process, Vote said.
26:23That may be the view of something that appropriators want to maintain.
26:27Well, Mr. Vote, you're damn right.
26:29This appropriator wants to maintain.
26:31My colleagues, we were sent here to do the people's business.
26:35I was sent here by Republicans and Democrats and independents alike.
26:38And I'm going to do the work to work with all of you in a good faith bipartisan way.
26:42And I'm not going to let the Office of Management and Budget tell me what to do.
26:46And I hope you won't allow them to tell you what to do.
26:49And with that, Mr. Chairman, I'll yield back.
26:52Thank the gentleman.
26:54Are there other members wishing to our gentleman from New York is recognized to address the amendment?
27:01Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
27:03I rise in support of this amendment by restoring Section 8 and public housing funding levels.
27:09The amendment ensures that there are no showfalls in the programs that help thousands upon thousands of families.
27:18The demand for housing vouchers is only growing in the city of New York with historically low vacancy rates and skyrocketing rents.
27:29If we were to allow this shortfall, it would devastate communities across the country.
27:37There is, again, a homelessness crisis unprecedented and a lack of affordable housing in the market.
27:48In fact, many families are paying 50% of their income towards rent.
27:55Most experts seem to feel that they should not pay above 30% of their income towards rent so that they could not have financial issues.
28:07But the fact of the matter is that housing costs and rents continue to rise and people are just being priced out.
28:17I bet that in every one of our districts, there are communities and neighborhoods where people are being priced out.
28:25And so the way to help people is to provide for restoration of Section 8 and public housing funding as well as investments for affordable housing and future home ownership.
28:40Many of our districts also have low levels of home ownership.
28:47And young families are really strapped, Mr. Chairman.
28:50They cannot move forward with the kind of cost for housing.
28:56In fact, daycare and housing, the cost of housing are the two great impediments for a young family to move forward.
29:07We all know that also health care is a major problem.
29:12But young people sometimes go by without having health insurance.
29:16They feel they are immortal until they get sick, of course.
29:20But to have them pay excessive rent and then have them meet the cost of daycare,
29:29which case many mothers and fathers decide to stay home and not work because it's so expensive,
29:35is holding our country back.
29:39We got the foot on the brake.
29:40We can't not unleash success if we don't take care of this housing crisis and this affordability crisis.
29:51And as I said earlier, Mr. Chairman, the HUD Secretary recognized that.
29:57But yet, the administration decides to cut over 50% of the HUD budget.
30:02And here we are also proposing additional cuts that will devastate American families.
30:10And I ask for everybody to be mindful of that.
30:14And I support Mr. Clyburn's unblocked amendment.
30:19I think it's a wise one and one that is in support of the best interest for all Americans.
30:24I yield back.
30:26I thank the gentleman.
30:27The gentleman from Maryland is recognized for remarks on the amendment.
30:32Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
30:38I want to speak on two provisions briefly here.
30:42The first is Ms. Wasserman Schultz' provision with respect to domestic violence.
30:49I was a young prosecutor.
30:53And one of the cases I got pretty early in my career was a domestic violence case.
30:58And the interesting thing about it was we never went to trial because the woman who was the victim of the domestic violence and was pretty knowledgeable about how the legal system was working was like, well, he didn't beat me that badly.
31:15I wasn't even hospitalized this time.
31:17So I know if we go forward and even if we get a conviction, probably be a conviction for second degree assault.
31:26You'll probably get probation.
31:29He could be home tonight before I even get there.
31:32So, Mr. Ivey, I guess I'm just going to have to keep taking the beatings.
31:39And one of the things that was part of that was she couldn't just up and leave because she had a child who was, I think it was a male who was 14.
31:48And a lot of the shelters, once males hit around 14 or 15 years old, they won't let the kid come in.
31:53So she was looking at a choice between staying and taking the beatings and allowing her children to have a steady home of a sort.
32:03Because we all know the generational curse that domestic violence imposes on the children, of course.
32:09But the other option was to just be out because she couldn't go to a shelter.
32:15She wasn't going to leave her child out there to fend for himself.
32:18So she didn't really have any other options.
32:20So I was quite surprised to see that the funding to help domestic violence survivors escape that sort of abuse had been cut.
32:31Because I know we all are aware of the ripple effect impact that domestic violence has, especially on young males.
32:39And when I later became a homicide prosecutor, and we take a look at these young men, frequently their first defense was a homicide.
32:47And you look and you're like, well, how did he get there?
32:52Almost invariably, when you peeled the onion back, domestic violence was part of it.
32:59And of course, we saw the most horrific outcomes from that.
33:03The one I remember the best was when the guy went back and set his ex on fire.
33:09Almost burned her to death.
33:15Why would we stand in the way of helping survivors get away from that?
33:21I know these are tight times financially.
33:23I know there's a lot of budgetary concerns.
33:26We disagree on some of the choices that have been made.
33:28But I'm surprised that there'd be a disagreement on this one.
33:34So I hope you all reconsider that.
33:36The fair housing issue, that provision as well.
33:42You know, I'm a young man.
33:45I was a kid, actually, in Rocky Mountain, North Carolina in the 60s.
33:49Civil rights movement was in motion.
33:51It was going, but the city was still racially divided, literally almost exactly along the railroad tracks lines.
33:59And I can remember when that legislation passed because it opened things up from a housing standpoint and from a job standpoint, too.
34:08My father was able to get a better job.
34:10We were able to move into a better house.
34:12Lives were transformed by that.
34:14But the only way it works, because I know a lot of hearts and minds have changed, but a lot have not.
34:20And if you don't have an enforcement provision to make it work, it's not going to work.
34:27So I'd urge my colleagues to reconsider on these two provisions.
34:31These are important provisions that have helped to make America a better place.
34:36We still have a lot of work to do.
34:37We still have a long ways to go.
34:39We've got a great track record of things that we have accomplished in the past.
34:44But let's keep moving it forward.
34:45And let's make sure we don't leave people behind, like domestic violence survivors and their children.
34:51Let's not leave people behind, like the people who are victims of discrimination.
34:56We've got to have enough money to take care of that.
34:59In this America, in the wealthiest country in the history of the planet, these are two things that we should be able to do.
35:06So I urge my colleagues to support this amendment.
35:09And with that, I yield back.
35:11Thank you, gentlemen.
35:12Are there others wishing to address the amendment?
35:16If not, the gentleman from South Carolina is recognized for one minute to close.
35:20Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
35:22I am pleased and I thank my colleagues for supporting this amendment, Mr. Chairman.
35:30Many of my Republican colleagues have argued that the flexibilities provided heard in this bill
35:36will allow housing providers to absorb these insufficient funding levels without reducing the number of people assisted.
35:46But that could mean increasing the rent burden on assisted households, imposing work requirements,
35:52or setting time limits for assistance, which also put families at risk of eviction.
35:59And the eviction thing bothers me a whole deal because I think I've said before in this committee
36:06that two of the highest eviction communities in this country, North Charleston, South Carolina, and Columbia.
36:16North Charleston, number one in my congressional district, Columbia, number six, according to the Princeton study.
36:24There's something interesting about those two communities.
36:28They are both military communities and evictions of military personnel.
36:36I don't mean veterans.
36:38I mean active duty military whose families are evicted in many instances while they are serving overseas.
36:49So I urge my colleagues to do the right thing.
36:53I urge them for the most vulnerable and, I might say, most patriotic people in our country
37:02and support my amendment, and I yield back.
37:07Thanks, gentlemen.
37:08The question is now.
37:12Oh, excuse me.
37:14I request a roll call vote.
37:16Well, I hadn't actually put it to the voice vote yet, so.
37:20Oh, I thought you were asking.
37:21I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman.
37:22Oh, no.
37:23Better wait with bated breath to see what it is.
37:27Okay.
37:28You never know.
37:29You may win.
37:30I know.
37:32Yeah.
37:35The question is now on the gentleman's amendment.
37:38All those in favor say aye.
37:41Aye.
37:41All those opposed say no.
37:43No.
37:43In the opinion of the chair, the no's have it.
37:47Roll call has been requested.
37:49A sufficient number of hands have been raised, and the clerk will call the roll.
37:54Mr. Adderholt.
37:56Mr. Aguilar.
37:57Aye.
37:57Mr. Aguilar, aye.
37:58Mr. Alford.
37:59No.
37:59Mr. Alford, no.
38:01Mr. Amaday.
38:01No.
38:02Mr. Amaday, no.
38:03Mrs. Bice.
38:04Yes.
38:05Mr. Bishop.
38:06Aye.
38:07Mr. Bishop, aye.
38:08Mr. Calvert.
38:09Mr. Carter.
38:11Mr. Carter.
38:13No.
38:15Mr. Carter, no.
38:17Mr. Case.
38:18Mr. Case, aye.
38:19Mr. Siskimani.
38:21No.
38:22Mr. Siskimani, no.
38:23Mr. Kline.
38:24No.
38:24Mr. Kline, no.
38:25Mr. Cloud.
38:26No.
38:26Mr. Cloud, no.
38:27Mr. Clyburn.
38:29Aye.
38:29Mr. Clyburn, aye.
38:30Mr. Clyde.
38:31Mr. Clyde, no.
38:32Mr. Cole.
38:33No.
38:33Mr. Cole, no.
38:34Mr. Cuellar.
38:37Ms. Dean.
38:39Ms. Dean, aye.
38:40Ms. Delauro.
38:40Aye.
38:41Ms. Delauro, aye.
38:42Mr. Diaz-Balart.
38:43Mr. Diaz-Balart, no.
38:44Mr. Edwards.
38:45No.
38:46Mr. Edwards, no.
38:47Mr. Elzey.
38:48Mr. Elzey, no.
38:49Ms. Escobar.
38:50Ms. Escobar, aye.
38:51Mr. Espayat.
38:52Aye.
38:53Mr. Espayat, aye.
38:54Mr. Fleischman.
38:55Aye.
38:55Ms. Frankel.
38:57Aye.
38:57Ms. Frankel, aye.
38:59Mr. Franklin.
39:00Mr. Franklin.
39:00Mr. Franklin, no.
39:02Mr. Gonzales.
39:03Mr. Gonzales, no.
39:04Mr. Guest.
39:05Mr. Guest, no.
39:06Mr. Guest, no.
39:07Mr. Harder.
39:09Dr. Harris.
39:14Mrs. Henson.
39:15Mrs. Henson, no.
39:17Mr. Hoyer.
39:19Aye.
39:19No.
39:23Aye.
39:24Mr. Hoyer, aye.
39:25Mr. Ivey.
39:26Aye.
39:27Mr. Ivey, aye.
39:28Mr. Joyce.
39:29Mr. Joyce, no.
39:30Ms. Kaptor.
39:31Ms. Kaptor, aye.
39:33Mr. Leloda.
39:34No.
39:34Mr. Leloda, no.
39:35Ms. Lee.
39:38Ms. Letlow.
39:39Ms. Letlow, no.
39:40Mr. Levin.
39:41Aye.
39:41Mr. Levin, aye.
39:43Ms. Molloy.
39:44Ms. Molloy, no.
39:46Ms. McCollum.
39:48Ms. Ming.
39:50Mr. Molinar.
39:52Mr. Molinar, no.
39:53Mr. Moore.
39:56Mr. Morelli.
39:58Aye.
39:58Mr. Morelli, aye.
39:59Mr. Mervan.
40:00Yes.
40:00Mr. Mervan, aye.
40:01Mr. Newhouse.
40:02No.
40:03Mr. Newhouse, no.
40:04Ms. Perez.
40:06Ms. Pingree.
40:08Aye.
40:09Ms. Pingree, aye.
40:10Mr. Pocan.
40:11Aye.
40:11Mr. Pocan, aye.
40:12Mr. Quigley.
40:13Aye.
40:13Mr. Quigley, aye.
40:14Mr. Reschenthaler.
40:18Mr. Rogers.
40:20Mr. Rogers, no.
40:21Mr. Rutherford.
40:22No.
40:22Mr. Rutherford, no.
40:23Mr. Simpson.
40:24Mr. Simpson, no.
40:25Mr. Strong.
40:27Mr. Strong, no.
40:28Mrs. Torres.
40:29Mrs. Torres, aye.
40:30Ms. Underwood.
40:31Aye.
40:31Ms. Underwood, aye.
40:32Mr. Valadeo.
40:35Ms. Wasserman-Schultz.
40:36Aye.
40:37Ms. Wasserman-Schultz, aye.
40:38Mrs. Watson-Coleman.
40:39Yes.
40:39Mrs. Watson-Coleman, aye.
40:41Mr. Womack.
40:41No.
40:42Mr. Womack, no.
40:43Mr. Zinke.
40:43No.
40:44Mr. Zinke, no.
40:49Are there any other members wishing to record their vote or change their vote?
40:53Gentle lady from New York.
40:56Ms. Ming, aye.
40:58Gentleman from California.
40:59Aye.
41:00Mr. Harder, aye.
41:01Gentleman from Tennessee.
41:03Mr. Fleishman, no.
41:07Gentleman from Texas.
41:09Mr. Quayar, aye.
41:11Gentle lady from Washington.
41:13Ms. Perez, aye.
41:14Gentleman from Pennsylvania.
41:17Mr. Rushenthaler, no.
41:19Gentleman from West Virginia.
41:22Mr. Moore, no.
41:23Gentle lady from Oklahoma.
41:25Mrs. Bice, no.
41:27Gentleman from Alabama.
41:29Mr. Adderholt, no.
41:30Gentleman from Cal...
41:33Gentleman from California.
41:42Mr. Valadeo, aye.
41:45Are there any other members...
41:48Dr. Harris...
41:49I don't believe...
41:51Gentleman is not recorded.
41:53No.
41:53Dr. Harris, no.
41:54Okay.
41:55Are there any other members wishing to record or change their vote?
42:01Seeing none, the clerk will tally.
42:03All right.
42:35On this vote, the ayes are 27, the noes are 33.
42:52The amendment is not adopted.
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