- 6 months ago
When 56-year-old Andy McGuffee turns up murdered in his burnt-out home, the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation looks to surveillance footage to zero in on their suspects. It reveals the shocking truth of what happened to Andy.
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00:00The inside of the house was scorched pretty badly.
00:13This was an intentionally set fire.
00:17He was stabbed multiple times.
00:21It was very much a whodunner.
00:23My son told me, no, Mom, he's been murdered.
00:26This wasn't a home invasion.
00:28It was somebody that was welcomed in.
00:33The video, I mean, you can't even hope for something like that.
00:36There's no way.
00:37Where is she going?
00:39It was shocking.
00:5856-year-old Andy McGuffey is cooking up a feast for his stepdaughter, Amanda, and his granddaughter, Laney.
01:15Andy came into my life when I was around eight years old, and he had met my mom.
01:20And I immediately became his little sidekick.
01:24No matter what he was doing, he loved being in the kitchen.
01:28It's tamale day!
01:30That's it.
01:32Our favorite papa.
01:33He would always call me and my daughter to come up and have us try a new recipe.
01:38And we loved it.
01:40My daughter loved her papa.
01:48Andy's wife, Angela, isn't at tonight's dinner.
01:51She has COVID and is recovering at her father's house.
01:56I got out of the hospital in October.
01:59They had forecasted some very strong tornadoes.
02:03And since Andy worked the night shift and I was on oxygen still, I didn't want to be there in our home by myself.
02:14Okay.
02:15That's all done.
02:17All right.
02:18We're gonna head out.
02:20See ya.
02:21Okay.
02:24Hi, you!
02:28I did speak to him Thursday evening.
02:31And?
02:33How are you, my love?
02:35He said that he would be picking me up as soon as he got off work the next day.
02:40And we said, good night.
02:42I love you.
02:44And that is the last time that I spoke with him.
02:47Okay.
02:48Bye.
02:56Next morning, Andy's boss calls Angela.
02:59Andy failed to turn up for his 1 a.m. shift.
03:02I said, well, I'm very concerned because I've been with him for 30 years and he's never missed work and not called.
03:13My son, Josh, lives a few miles from our home.
03:17And so I asked him if he would mind going over to the house and just checking on Andy to make sure he was okay.
03:319-1-1 emergency.
03:34Blanchard police officers respond to a 9-1-1 call from Josh.
03:38I think there's been a fire.
03:44I think there's been a fire.
03:47The patrol officer could see that there was scorching around the front door.
03:54He went ahead and went inside, saw that the inside of the house was scorched pretty badly.
04:00He went into Andy's bedroom and saw his feet at the end of the bed.
04:10Even though, upon initial glance, you couldn't really see how he had died,
04:16they were relatively certain that it was something that they wanted us to come out and investigate pretty quickly.
04:24Agents from the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation arrive on scene along with the fire marshal.
04:36Went into Andy's bedroom.
04:39He was covered up pretty well.
04:43He was stabbed multiple times.
04:46I'm counting at least 11 stab wounds.
04:53We observed lacerations and cuts to the head, to the neck, to the face, to the chest.
04:58Because of the widths of the stab marks, it looked like more than one weapon that was used to stab Andy.
05:10We quickly came to the conclusion that Andy had been murdered.
05:13Josh calls his mom, Angela.
05:19It was really kind of surreal, because it sounded like he was crying, but my son doesn't cry.
05:34Mom?
05:36He said, Mom, Andy's dead.
05:37He was dead.
05:38And I screamed.
05:40And, um, and I said, did he have a heart attack?
05:44And that's when Josh told me, no, Mom, he's been murdered.
05:49And, you know, then I, of course, I just lost it.
05:58And I was like, no, that can't be, that can't be, that just can't be.
06:02Agents searched the scene for clues.
06:12There was a, uh, like a recliner.
06:17And that's where you can really kind of first see the damage that had taken place, because it was burned and melted.
06:23You can see this gigantic black spot on the floor.
06:28The boards there were just scorched.
06:32I mean, just completely blacked out.
06:35You also had rolls of paper towels.
06:37All laid out specifically to try to spread the fire.
06:51We noticed they were aerosol cans that were put onto the stove.
06:55Had the fire been able to spread into the kitchen area, the aerosol canisters would have made explosions.
07:00This was absolutely not an accidental fire.
07:03It wasn't a mishap. It wasn't a careless cook, a careless dropping of a cigarette.
07:09This was an intentionally set fire.
07:12Whoever this was didn't have to force entry.
07:15I thought this wasn't a home invasion.
07:19This wasn't somebody that kicked in the door and just went to town on him.
07:23It was somebody that was welcomed in.
07:33Angela got on scene.
07:37She had an oxygen tank on.
07:39She was using a walker to be able to get around.
07:42My heart just went out to her because she was very, very sick.
07:47Angela told us that she had spoken with Andy the night before, around 6 or 7 at night.
07:54Then she was woken up the next morning by a phone call from Andy's boss saying that Andy hadn't arrived at 1 a.m. for work.
08:03So Andy was killed during that time frame.
08:07Did you notice anything missing from the property?
08:09Josh was able to pick up that there was a lot of property that was missing.
08:15There was like a laptop that was missing.
08:17Purses, DVDs, neck massager, and Andy's white Toyota was missing.
08:27I found out that there were a large number of firearms that were missing from the house, including a pink BB gun.
08:34We talked to a lot of the friends, a lot of the family.
08:39There was nobody that was upset with Andy.
08:42There was nobody that had any kind of motive to hurt him or anything like that.
08:46So, you know, you still don't have a suspect.
08:49It was very much a whodunit.
08:55While investigators put out a bolo for Andy's white pickup, agents worked to trace the missing items.
09:01Agent Gatlin just happened to think, well, I'll check leads online, a database for pawnbrokers across the United States.
09:14Hey, Matt, we got a hit on the pink BB gun.
09:18He was able to determine that a pink BB gun had been pawned and a neck massager had been pawned.
09:22The pawn shop is in Kansas, nearly 300 miles away.
09:39Agents review the store surveillance footage at the Kansas Bureau of Investigation.
09:44Agent Horn says she was able to go to the pawn shop and get video.
09:47Play it for when the store opens.
09:48Play it for when the store opens.
09:49Play it for when the store opens.
09:50Play it for when the store opens.
09:51Play it for when the store opens and doors functions.
09:53There, what's that?
10:20Got the pink BB gun.
10:21And the neck massager.
10:34These two people come in to this pawn shop in Kansas.
10:38One of them placed a large number of firearms on the counter.
10:45One of them was, you know, a large individual.
10:49Punch in.
10:51They had items that we had believed was pretty clearly belonging to the victim, Andy.
11:06This unidentified person then starts converse with a pawnbroker to try to sell that property.
11:11Oh, there she is. She's making the deal.
11:20Zoom in.
11:22They signed the paperwork.
11:24They signed the paperwork.
11:25Can we get that ticket up?
11:29We were able to get signed pawn tickets.
11:33Punch in.
11:34And we come up with the name Debbie Senft.
11:35Get me everything you can on Debbie Senft.
11:44S-E-N-F-T.
11:45We're not ready to say that these folks killed Andy McGuffey.
11:56But what we can say for sure is that they had property that very much looks like Andy McGuffey's.
12:06The next morning, investigators receive Andy's phone records.
12:15So what we were able to see there is who Andy was last talking to the day before the homicide and some of the messages that were going back and forth.
12:25That's a lot of messages from the same number.
12:38The text messages were trying to discuss how to meet up with each other.
12:45Look at this.
12:46The tone of the messages was that they knew each other, but they hadn't seen each other in quite some time.
12:59Andy's conversation was very much a social form.
13:06Andy had even sent a picture of some alcohol that he was drinking at his house saying, you know, basically saying, yeah, sure, come on by.
13:14Andy arranged to meet this person at his house on the night he was killed.
13:21We got to run that number of the database.
13:25So he plugs the phone number in and we come up with the name.
13:30Hey, Matt, you're not going to believe it. It's Debbie Senft.
13:34Debbie Senft?
13:37But I'm like, hold on a minute. That is the same person from that pawn shop.
13:40And so, you know, my initial thought was, who is this person?
13:46Why are they talking with Andy?
13:48Agent Miller calls Andy's family to see if they know a Debbie Senft.
13:52Hi, Mrs. McGuffey. This is Agent Miller from OSBI.
13:58He asked if I knew who Deborah Senft was.
14:02And I had never heard that name before. Never.
14:06Thank you for your time.
14:09I didn't know, honestly, what to think at that point.
14:13What we weren't able to figure out is what kind of connection Debbie and Andy had.
14:20You know, we don't know if it's a friend, you know, at the very worst a girlfriend or something like that, that perhaps Angela didn't know about.
14:34Andy's family salvage what they can from his home.
14:37I believe that going through the house and trying to clean up and everything, it's, it's hard. It leaves a smell that you can't ever forget.
14:49We didn't want to put mom through any more trouble since her COVID, her breathing and stuff like that. Didn't want her to be around the smoke.
14:56We wanted to see how bad it was first before trying to let her go in.
15:05He had put so much hard work into that beautiful home.
15:10It was just taken away, destroyed.
15:13And that was hard. That was really hard.
15:18Agents contact Andy's neighbors to find out if they saw anything suspicious on the night he was murdered.
15:28During our process of interviewing the neighbors, one woman that we were able to talk with had said that her husband had noticed an unusual vehicle at Andy's house the night before.
15:44He gave us a lot of good information. He, he said that it was like a dark colored, like a charcoal four door sedan.
15:53And my immediate thought was some sort of Toyota or something like that from the description that he had given.
15:59Another interesting point was that he had noticed there was a large black dog in the car as well.
16:06We looked at that as a potential source of further evidence.
16:11Um, you know, you think maybe the person that's driving that car could have something to do with Andy's death.
16:21Agents piece together Debbie Semp's movements in the lead up to Andy's murder.
16:26They find that she rented a gray Toyota Corolla in Texas three weeks earlier.
16:31We were able to get the plate information for the gray car.
16:36I get that to our dispatch and be able to have that entered.
16:40Uh, yep. I got it.
16:43A buddy of mine within the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, he tells me there was an accident.
16:48A patrol officer responded to a crash involving the Corolla at 6 a.m. the morning after Andy was killed.
16:54They were able to provide, you know, copies of the accident, the citation, as well as the video from that accident.
17:04Here we go.
17:05The vehicle had gone off the side of the road and hit one of the blinking signs that was on the side of the road.
17:25How you doing?
17:26Where's mom at?
17:27She was heading to Petro.
17:28I was falling behind her and then the tire blew.
17:29You were following her?
17:30I was falling behind her on the highway.
17:31Okay.
17:32All right.
17:33And then the tire blew and I didn't even have time to react.
17:34He was able to provide the Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper with a name and date of birth.
17:38What's your last name?
17:39Mussel.
17:40Spell it.
17:41M-E-S-S-E-T-T.
17:42M-E-S-S-E-T-T.
17:43First name?
17:44Zachary.
17:45Z-A-C-H-A-R-Y?
17:46Yeah.
17:47Who is Zachary Mussel?
17:48Come on back to my car.
17:49During that time, he called his mom to call the police officer.
17:50He was able to provide the Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper with a name and date of birth.
17:52He was able to provide the Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper with a name and date of birth.
17:53What's your last name?
17:54Mussel.
17:55Spell it.
17:56M-E-S-S-S-E-T-T.
17:57First name?
17:58Zachary.
17:59Z-A-C-H-A-R-Y?
18:00Yeah.
18:01Who is Zachary Mussel?
18:04Come on back to my car.
18:05During that time, he called his mom to have her turn around so that she can pick up Zachary.
18:13Hello.
18:14Who am I speaking with?
18:15This Trooper Muller with the Highway Patrol?
18:17I'm speaking with Debbie Senneth.
18:18Debbie who?
18:19Senneth.
18:20That's my mom.
18:21Okay.
18:22I guess I have your son here.
18:23Was he following you?
18:24Wait.
18:25Did he just say his mom is Debbie Senneth?
18:27I got to pause it right there.
18:29I got to pause it right there.
18:31I got to pause it right there.
18:33The person seen with Debbie Senneth in the security footage from the Kansas pawn shop is Zachary
18:45Muzzat.
18:46Mother and son.
18:50Nineteen minutes later, Debbie Senneth arrives at the scene.
18:56Is that okay for me to get out and talk to her?
19:02Debbie arrived.
19:03The conversation between the three parties on scene in that accident, which is, you know,
19:09the trooper, Zachary and Debbie was none of it made any sense.
19:15Thank you so much for calling me.
19:16You're welcome.
19:17You're welcome.
19:18My brother was the one that was supposed to be driving the car, but he went off with a
19:22friend.
19:23Yeah.
19:24And left us in the middle of nowhere, so we're just trying to get to the Petro.
19:27Okay.
19:28Better than that.
19:31He knows that they're acting weird.
19:33They're acting sketchy.
19:34You can tell that from the trooper's demeanor.
19:37Agent Matt Miller calls Andy's family to ask if they recognize the name Zachary Muzzat.
19:50Matt actually relayed the name Muzzat.
19:59I said, wait a minute, Zachary Muzzat.
20:04That is Andy's nephew, who we haven't seen in 12 years.
20:11My mom kind of lost it, and she goes, oh, my word.
20:17Debbie said, that is Andy's half-sister.
20:21I said, yeah, if you would have said Debbie Muzzat, I would have been able to tell you
20:26right from the beginning.
20:29I did not know if she had ever gotten married and that her last name had ever changed.
20:35Our two suspects in this case were actually related to the victim.
20:42And that is what is really surprising.
20:47We had figured out that they had pawned items that belonged to Andy in Kansas.
20:55We then know that Zach was in an accident in Oklahoma City around 6 o'clock in the morning,
21:01the day after Andy was killed.
21:04But what we don't know is what happened the day of the murder.
21:08And that's our job to figure out.
21:17Agents secure the GPS data for Debbie Samp's phone.
21:23Lieutenant Gatlin was able to plot out Debbie's cell phone locations
21:26and determine that she was, in fact, in the area during our period of time
21:30where Andy may have been killed in between that 6 to 7 time to 1 a.m.
21:37Hey, Matt. Come look at this.
21:39Around 6 o'clock, Debbie was at Love's Travel Stop in Oklahoma City,
21:53pretty close to Andy's house.
21:55We better get down there.
21:56Agents search the area around Love's for clues
22:12that might reveal Debbie and Zachary's movements during that time.
22:16So next door to this Love's is a car wash.
22:20We go through the car wash.
22:26Dave, look.
22:30We actually find the victim's truck.
22:33Bingo.
22:41We were able to get a hold of the owner of the car wash.
22:44Major Miller from the OSBI.
22:47We need to see your surveillance footage now.
22:50The owner says,
22:51yeah, I've got video cameras all over that thing.
22:56I started watching the videos.
22:57Load up the outside camera.
22:58Around 1.30 on the 15th.
22:59I wasn't quite sure what I was going to get at the most.
23:17I thought at that point to get, you know, some sort of pinpoint location
23:20that I could get some sort of forensic information
23:22or forensic evidence for the case.
23:28What I never could have expected is that I would have videos better than that forensic evidence.
23:34Wait, stop.
23:44On the video from the car wash, it's around 1.30.
23:48You have them pulling in at the Penske moving truck.
23:51But you also have them pulling in in Andy's white Toyota Tacoma.
24:03You can see them parking Andy's truck and then parking the Penske truck at the car wash.
24:20Switch to the inside.
24:27Let's zoom in.
24:32And pause it there.
24:33What you see is an inspection of several different weapons that are in the car.
24:49And Zack almost kind of taking stock of what they have.
25:01Some headlights peer towards the top of the frame.
25:04Switch to the next bay.
25:06Debbie then pulls the Corolla into the next stall over.
25:25So in one bay, you have the Toyota Corolla.
25:29Switch back.
25:31And then in the next stall over is Andy's truck.
25:38And then you have the Penske moving truck that's concealing what they're actually doing.
25:52They both look straight up at the camera in one of the bays.
25:55Can you believe it?
25:58But instead of stopping and moving, they just keep on doing what they're doing.
26:05Andy's truck had a camper shell on it.
26:09It was open so that they could then load property straight from the back of the truck into the Penske moving truck.
26:15They're unloading Andy's stuff and putting it in their truck.
26:20Figuring out what they wanted to keep, what they didn't want to keep.
26:23Pause it. Zoom in.
26:32There. The neck massager from Andy's home.
26:39Because I've been involved in this case from the very beginning, it's very exciting,
26:45especially whenever you start recognizing things that are actually coming out of the truck.
26:50Take me to the outside camera.
26:55And on the other side of the car wash, you can see them actually throwing property away in the dumpster in the back.
27:12It was really cold-blooded that anything that they had taken from Andy that they didn't necessarily want,
27:27they just threw away in a large dumpster behind the car wash.
27:32Take me back to the inside camera.
27:39Wait, what's that?
27:41Zachary pulls out a knife from the truck, walks off screen,
27:51and then comes back wiping the knife off on his pants.
27:56That could have been our murder weapon.
27:59He was destroying evidence.
28:03They spend four or five hours unloading property into this Penske.
28:17Once you can kind of tell they're starting to wrap up, they're about to leave,
28:26they start wiping Andy's truck down in the anticipation that somebody is going to find it.
28:36And so you can see them kind of going through in their mind everywhere that they've touched,
28:40which is like, you know, the handle on the camper shell, the door handle.
28:47You would never in a thousand years say,
28:49well, yeah, I hope we've got a video of them driving it in
28:52and then trying to destroy evidence by wiping their fingerprints off everything.
28:56There's no way.
29:01Debbie and Zachary leave the car wash at 5.30 a.m.
29:09It's pretty clear at that point that there were no other suspects other than Debbie or Zachary.
29:15So that's when the decision was made to go ahead and type up that arrest warrant.
29:22The family are left reeling after receiving the news that Andy's half-sister and nephew could be involved in his murder.
29:31It was extremely difficult for me to comprehend because they had dropped so far off of my radar.
29:40You know, I mean, as far as I knew, we had no contact with them at all.
29:48There were no words to explain how shocked we were that family members could do that.
29:55It was hard to wrap my mind around all of it.
29:58Just to know that someone in his family was capable of that just made it too hard.
30:03Agents ping Debbie's phone to pinpoint her location.
30:09It reveals that she's in Wyoming.
30:14Agents call local law enforcement to make the arrest.
30:18Wyoming enlists a couple of their guys to kind of wait in a certain part of the state that they assumed that they would probably be traveling through.
30:27And they just waited for a Penske truck to come by.
30:30You got eyes on them?
30:32They confirmed pretty easily that Debbie was driving the truck and then radioed their counterparts on the highway patrol.
30:40When the moment's right, bring them in.
30:45Headlock and see them!
30:48Step outside of the vehicle slowly.
30:51Keep your hands up.
30:53It was very peaceful.
30:54Neither one put up a fight or anything like that.
30:57Slowly.
31:00Turn around, hands behind your head.
31:03And we were able to get Debbie and Zach taken to jail.
31:07All right, let's get this thing told.
31:09Debbie is one of the more unassuming people that I've ever arrested.
31:14But Andy was stabbed multiple times.
31:17So whenever you have somebody that was stabbed that many times in a brutal, brutal attack,
31:24you know you're dealing with a very dangerous person.
31:29One of the biggest questions that I had was the motivation because at that point, you know, we had no idea what they might say.
31:35Agents traveled to Wyoming.
31:47They analyzed the moving truck that Debbie was driving at the time of her arrest.
31:52So we found not only his ID in his wallet with his debit cards and things like that, but we found, you know, one of the guns that was reported missing that we had a serial number for.
32:04We found a wedding picture.
32:08There was a large gun case, but there was all kinds of stuff, glasses that were wrapped in dish towels.
32:17And I thought to myself, why would you steal that?
32:20Like, if it was not nailed down, they took it.
32:32Next, the agents interview the suspects.
32:35They start with Zachary.
32:37The first thing that I noticed about Zach is that he was wearing the exact same clothing that he was in the Kansas pawn shop video.
32:46Zachary tells the agents that he and his mom, Debbie, were relocating from Texas to Colorado.
32:52Zachary described stopping at different churches to try to get gas money, as well as looking for handouts for food or anything else that they could possibly get from the goodwill of others.
33:06They paid Andy a brief visit on their way through Oklahoma.
33:10I said, well, okay, well, what were you driving?
33:12And he tells me a four-door gray, like, Toyota Corolla, so that shows you you're on the right track.
33:18The neighbors had told us there was a large black dog in the car.
33:23So I said, Chance, you had any dogs or anything like that with you?
33:26And he's like, yeah.
33:28So, you know, you have another little grain of sand that lets you know that you're on the right path.
33:34So you stayed with Andy for an hour, two max, right?
33:39That's right, and then we hit the road.
33:41So what did you and your mom do for those few hours you were with Andy?
33:45He told me that he was eating eggs and sausage at Andy's house, which was a valuable piece of information because we found plates of food that had eggs and sausage.
33:57Agent Miller reveals to Zachary that Andy McGuffey was murdered and his home set on fire.
34:03Was there some sort of disagreement? Did a fight break out? Can you tell me what happened?
34:12But whenever we got to the part where Andy was murdered, he would just say he doesn't remember.
34:18So you move on past that until I show him a picture of him inside the pawn shop.
34:23And I say...
34:24Is that you?
34:29Yeah.
34:30Who's that with you?
34:32That's my mom.
34:34What were you guys doing? I don't know.
34:36Well, let me show you some of this video.
34:46Do you agree that it looks like you're pawning something?
34:49Yeah. What are you pawning? I don't know.
34:55Where would you get that sort of stuff?
34:57I don't know.
34:58So, you know, it's pretty clear at that point that even with, you know, pressing or, you know, whatever you can do or tips or tricks that you can try to get him to tell you the truth that he's probably not going to.
35:09Next, agents interview Zachary's mother, Debbie.
35:18Debbie was certainly the leader of the two.
35:21I mean, he was her adult son.
35:24I mean, he was twice the size that she is in both height and weight, but, um, she was definitely calling the shots.
35:32Do you know Andy McGuffey?
35:34She says, yeah, well, that's, that's my half brother.
35:37Zach just told us you went to see Andy.
35:41I just tried to point out what we already knew, along with some of the information that Zach had told us to see if she would change her story.
35:49I ain't seeing no more.
35:52I want my lawyer.
35:54And what that ultimately ended with is, is her just asking for a lawyer.
35:57So the interview pretty much, pretty much stopped after that.
36:01But by that point, we do believe that we've got enough information.
36:05So Lieutenant Gatlin and I charge both Zachary and Debbie with murder in the first degree and arson.
36:12February 14th, 2023, Debbie Sempt and Zachary Muzzat stand trial for the murder of Andy McGuffey.
36:29Prosecutors stepped through the events that led to his killing.
36:31The night that Andy was murdered, what they ended up doing was parking the Penske at the Loves and then taking their rented Toyota Corolla out to Andy's.
36:49We know that they were at Andy's house.
36:55We had found the plates of food more than one person had been eating.
37:00One of them probably distracted them, the other hit them, and then they both stabbed him.
37:16So Debbie and Zach both then load up all of his possessions in his own truck and their car.
37:32We believe they probably moved Andy's body from the living room to his bedroom because of how he was positioned and how he was wrapped up in the blanket.
37:46And then they went to great lengths to try to set this fire to make sure that it would burn the house down.
37:55They go back to their moving truck with two carloads full of Andy's property in the, you know, late, late hours.
38:17They spend a long time unloading property from Andy's truck and they leave around 5.30 in the morning.
38:36Debbie and Zach made it to Kansas where the pink BB gun had been pawned and a neck massager had been pawned.
38:44They kept going north up to Nebraska.
38:49Three days later, they were caught in Wyoming.
38:53The motivation very much looks like it's just theft.
39:04They made it very clear that they were very short on funds at that particular time and that was what they knew that they could do to get money.
39:12I mean, that's just to take somebody out of this world for all their possessions is just a hard pill to swallow.
39:21In the multiple times that I've had interaction with them, there was never any sign of remorse, never any tears, nothing.
39:32The jury finds both Debbie and Zachary guilty of first degree murder.
39:40The judge sentences them to life in prison without parole for Andy's killing and 35 years for arson.
39:46That was a relief. I'm actually grateful that that's the sentence that they went with. A lot of tears and a lot of smiles.
39:55I don't think it's overstating anything to say that the videos of them unloading and loading stuff at the car wash was a nail in the coffin.
40:05My brother was the one that was supposed to be driving the car, but he went off with a friend and left us in the middle of nowhere.
40:12Uh-oh.
40:13Trying to get to the petro.
40:15Investigators found no evidence that any of Debbie's brothers had knowledge of or involvement in Andy's murder.
40:22I'm both sad and angry that Andy no longer gets to be here to watch all the grandkids excel in life.
40:36That they don't get to have their grandpa to go fishing with and have him cooking up his awesome food.
40:44He cherished all of his, all of his grandkids.
40:47I'm pretty sure my mom still cries every day. I'm almost positive she still cries every night.
40:55I know she's got the last voicemail that he ever left her.
41:00It would surprise me if she still doesn't listen to it every day, just so she can have his voice.
41:07The impact that it's had on me for certain is devastating.
41:13I really think he was one of a kind.
41:15I used to say he was my whole package, my whole package.
41:20Mm-hmm.
41:36Yeah.
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