00:00decided to switch from E4 to D4.
00:04Karpov was an exclusive E4 player for many, many years.
00:09From these early days to 1985, he almost exclusively played E4.
00:15He played D4 against me in the first match.
00:19He was gradually making this move.
00:21But still, he relied on E4 in the key games in 1985 and in the game 24
00:31when he had to win at any cost.
00:35He was trailing 12 to 11.
00:37He had to win the game to retain his title.
00:39He played E4.
00:41Of course, I played C5.
00:42I played Sicilian.
00:43And that's an interesting moment because many people thought,
00:46oh, why Gary made this choice?
00:51Because it's such a sharp opening.
00:52Karpov had to win.
00:54And you needed just a draw.
00:55Could you find something safer?
00:57And I thought, no, that was the wrong choice.
01:00It's a game of my life.
01:02It's a game of Karpov's life.
01:03He has to win.
01:04But if we play a position where I feel more comfortable,
01:07and I knew I would be more comfortable playing sharp openings,
01:10he had an attack.
01:11He had a very strong attack.
01:12It was a classic Skiviningen.
01:15And Karpov created a massive attack.
01:19But that was not his game.
01:22That's important to remember.
01:23It was my game.
01:24So that's why I actually found great defensive moves.
01:29So I'm just not sure it's the right move order.
01:34But we actually always reach this position.
01:41So, and Karpov started the attack.
01:49But I was not afraid.
01:53By the way, I always liked playing this position with Black.
01:56I knew it was dangerous.
01:58But I felt comfortable.
02:00I'm just kidding.
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