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André Marinho recebe Robert Kennedy Jr., Secretário de Saúde e Serviços Humanos do governo Trump, para uma entrevista especial no Vozes do Poder.
De forma exclusiva, Kennedy revela o lado pouco conhecido do presidente americano, detalha a sabotagem democrata que o levou a aliança com Trump e expõe sua polêmica batalha contra as farmacêuticas para baixar o preço dos remédios.
Uma conversa franca sobre os bastidores do poder, alianças inesperadas e os planos que definirão o futuro dos Estados Unidos da América.
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De forma exclusiva, Kennedy revela o lado pouco conhecido do presidente americano, detalha a sabotagem democrata que o levou a aliança com Trump e expõe sua polêmica batalha contra as farmacêuticas para baixar o preço dos remédios.
Uma conversa franca sobre os bastidores do poder, alianças inesperadas e os planos que definirão o futuro dos Estados Unidos da América.
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00:00Vozes do Poder com André Marinho.
00:30Filho do icônico senador nova-iorquino Robert Kennedy e sobrinho do 35º presidente dos Estados Unidos, John F. Kennedy.
00:37Ambos brutalmente assassinados nos anos 60, deixando um legado de sonhos interrompidos e inspiração para gerações.
00:45Advogado brilhante, ativista ambiental premiado, autor de best-sellers e uma das vozes mais provocadoras do debate público americano,
00:52nas últimas décadas ele travou batalhas duras em defesa da saúde pública e do meio ambiente, processando grandes corporações poluidoras
01:00e conquistando vitórias históricas contra indústrias multinacionais gigantes como Monsanto, DuPont e a General Electric,
01:08responsável por décadas de contaminação do Rio Hudson em Nova Iorque.
01:12Em 2024, Kennedy surpreendeu o mundo ao lançar sua candidatura à presidência pelo Partido Democrata,
01:18desafiando a máquina do establishment com um discurso que unia progressistas e conservadores anti-sistema.
01:24Depois de enfrentar uma série de manobras partidárias para impedi-lo de concorrer contra o então presidente Joe Biden,
01:30rompeu com os democratas, concorreu como independente e chegou a pontuar bem nas pesquisas.
01:35Mais tarde, em um movimento que pegou muitos de surpresa, inclusive enfrentando grande resistência de muitos familiares,
01:41declarou seu apoio ao presidente Donald Trump, selando uma aliança que mudou os rumos daquela eleição
01:47e que muitos analistas consideraram decisiva para a vitória republicana.
01:51Claro, Kennedy também acumulou polêmicas.
01:54Suas críticas à narrativa oficial sobre a pandemia da Covid-19 e sua postura iconoclasta renderam-lhe rótulos hostis,
02:01mas também seguidores fiéis.
02:04Hoje, ele ocupa o cargo de secretário de Saúde de Serviços Humanos dos Estados Unidos,
02:09posto equivalente ao ministro da Saúde aqui no Brasil,
02:12à frente de um dos maiores orçamentos públicos do planeta, superior até do próprio exército americano
02:17e tem metas ambiciosas para reverter a epidemia de doenças crônicas do povo americano
02:22com o programa que batizou de MAHRA, Make America Healthy Again,
02:27ou no bom português, Faça a América Saudável novamente.
02:31E aqui uma curiosidade pessoal.
02:33Aos 42 anos, Kennedy foi diagnosticado com disfonia espasmódica,
02:37uma condição neurológica que causa espasmos nas cordas vocais,
02:41conferindo à sua voz um timbre rouco, que se tornou característico.
02:44Dificuldade é essa que nunca o impediu de ser ouvido
02:47e é apenas uma lembrança da força verdadeira de sua voz.
02:51Diretamente de Washington, D.C., com vocês,
02:54o secretário de Saúde dos Estados Unidos da América, Robert Kennedy Jr.,
02:58um Kennedy para os tempos de hoje e talvez um dos mais ousados que já vimos.
03:03Bem-vindos ao especial Vozes do Poder.
03:05Secretary Kennedy, it's an honor to be with you.
03:09You too, André.
03:10This is great.
03:11This is the first of its kind interview for an international series
03:15we're starting in Brazil, and you're at this hallowed hall at HHS.
03:21One thing that I found quite amazing, Mr. Secretary,
03:24was the fact that you're currently commanding,
03:27based on the fiscal year 2025,
03:30an outlay of approximately $1.8 trillion,
03:33and Brazil's GDP is currently $1.9 trillion,
03:37almost the same amount.
03:40So you've been doing lots of reorganizing, reshuffling,
03:43and basically revolutionizing the intricacies of HHS.
03:48Based on that,
03:49what have you learned from being in government
03:52these six to seven months at this point,
03:54balancing critique from the outside,
03:56once you were,
03:57back when you were an attorney and an activist,
03:59and now with real-world execution,
04:02leading this department?
04:05Well, it's a lot more fun being on the inside.
04:08I'm sure it is.
04:09But, you know, it's a, as you said,
04:12this is a huge job.
04:14It's the biggest agency in our government.
04:18We have twice the budget of the Pentagon.
04:20And we had, when I came in here,
04:24we had 82,000 employees.
04:26We downsized down to 62,000.
04:30During the Biden administration
04:32and the COVID pandemic,
04:35the budget of this agency went up by 38%.
04:39And so what we've been doing is scaling back.
04:43And, you know,
04:44what's curious is that the budget went way up,
04:48but the health of Americans actually got worse.
04:53So the money alone is not keeping people healthy.
04:58We need to really change the trajectory of this agency.
05:01And, you know,
05:02the American system of health
05:06is really a sick care system.
05:08There's at every level,
05:10from the doctors, the hospitals,
05:12to the insurance companies,
05:15the pharmaceutical companies,
05:16people make money by keeping Americans sicker.
05:20And today we have the sickest population in the world.
05:24More than 60% of our kids
05:26have chronic disease.
05:30When my uncle was present,
05:31I was a 10-year-old boy.
05:33It was 3%.
05:35We're talking around 1960 to 1963.
05:37And today it's gone up to 60%.
05:43So about 8 in 10 American kids
05:47cannot qualify for military service.
05:49We have obesity crises.
05:51We have diabetes crises.
05:53The autism rates in our population,
05:56in 1970,
05:58we have the largest epidemiological study ever performed,
06:01found that about 0.7,
06:05so less than 1 out of 10,000 Americans
06:08had autism.
06:12And today the latest data from CDC,
06:15which is one of my agencies,
06:17is one in every 31 kids,
06:20one in about every 20 boys.
06:22In California,
06:23which has the best data collection of any state,
06:27we have probably the most accurate,
06:28so it's probably worse than this,
06:31is one in every 19 children has autism,
06:34one in every 12.8 boys.
06:37And so we need to really change,
06:40we need to pivot at this agency
06:42and make it,
06:44and begin at every level
06:47changing these perverse incentives
06:50which make people rich by keeping us safe
06:53and align the economic incentives
06:56of our agency with good public health
06:59so that people,
07:00so doctors,
07:01hospitals,
07:03insurers,
07:05all get wealthy
07:06by actually making people healthier.
07:11Definitely.
07:11I mean,
07:12these perverse incentives,
07:13Mr. Secretary,
07:14that you just mentioned,
07:15they are very much prevalent in Brazil as well.
07:18And both of our countries
07:19have diplomatic ties
07:21for over 200 years.
07:23America was the first country
07:24to recognize Brazilian independence
07:26which actually occurred in 1822
07:27but recognized it in 1824.
07:30Other than that,
07:31we have so many cultural ties
07:33that,
07:35but one of them
07:35that's really alarming
07:37is the fact that
07:38even though Brazil and America
07:40with all these similarities
07:41being the two largest
07:42population-wise countries
07:43in the Americas,
07:46based on distinct
07:48industrial, military,
07:50cultural,
07:50and health policies
07:51throughout the last decades,
07:52we've gotten really sicker
07:55considering the scenario
07:56you just described
07:57very accurately.
07:59I think I'm going to,
08:00offering this interview
08:01that we delve into
08:02very specific subjects
08:03like the anxiety crisis
08:04you mentioned,
08:05obesity,
08:05the sedentary lifestyles,
08:07it's very much similar
08:08and mirrored by
08:09Brazilian society these days.
08:10But why do you think
08:12you just basically gave us
08:13the diagnosis
08:14but getting to the root causes
08:16and right now,
08:18based on the fact
08:18that you have described this
08:20as the chance of your lifetime,
08:22the project of your lifetime,
08:23what are you doing
08:24to address these main,
08:26the root causes
08:27of all of these issues
08:28and these places?
08:29Most of these diseases
08:31are linked
08:33to mitochondrial disorders.
08:36So there are
08:37environmental toxins
08:38and really these
08:40are dietary diseases.
08:43Diabetes is clearly
08:44linked to diet.
08:46You can cure most diabetes.
08:48you can lose your diagnosis
08:50by changing your diet,
08:51by getting rid of processed foods.
08:52We're looking at 19 million
08:54Brazilians who are diabetic.
08:56Right.
08:57And it's, you know,
08:58it's the same reason
08:59that we're seeing this
09:00explosion of diabetes
09:01around the world.
09:04Brazil has,
09:05is increasingly,
09:06Brazilians are increasingly
09:07relying on processed food
09:09rather than fruits
09:11and vegetables
09:12and meats
09:13and proteins
09:13that were part
09:15of the traditional diet.
09:16You know,
09:1720 years ago,
09:19the diabetes rate
09:21in China was zero.
09:23And today,
09:2451% of Chinese adults
09:27are either pre-diabetic
09:28or diabetic.
09:30And,
09:31and the reason for that
09:33is almost certainly
09:34partially
09:34because they built
09:3620,000 fast food places
09:38in China.
09:39and they're getting,
09:41they're importing
09:41more and more processed foods
09:43from Europe,
09:44but particularly
09:44from the United States.
09:45And it's not really food.
09:48It's food-like substances
09:50that are poisoning us.
09:51They're mass poisoning us.
09:53And,
09:53you know,
09:56we,
09:56we,
09:57we need to reform
09:58our agricultural process,
09:59but also just our food system.
10:02The diabetes
10:03is coming from
10:04ultra-processed foods,
10:05which are,
10:05carbohydrates and sugars,
10:11different forms of sugars,
10:12which,
10:13which trigger
10:14the,
10:15a diabetes.
10:17Um,
10:18and what we find
10:20is if people
10:20switch to a protein diet,
10:24that they can very,
10:26very quickly lose
10:26their diabetes,
10:28uh,
10:28or their pre-diabetes
10:29diagnosis.
10:30So,
10:31you know,
10:31food is medicine.
10:32and we are,
10:35you know,
10:35the food,
10:35the processed food
10:36seems very cheap
10:37when you buy it
10:39in the market,
10:39but it's not cheap
10:40over the long term.
10:41Exactly.
10:42Process.
10:43Because you're gonna,
10:44you're gonna,
10:44it's gonna make you sick.
10:46And whatever kind you eat,
10:48it's gonna be,
10:48you're gonna be sicker.
10:49One hundred percent.
10:50But,
10:51if I might,
10:52Secretary Kennedy,
10:53based on,
10:53uh,
10:54the drug prices
10:55and what HHS,
10:57under your command,
10:58has been addressing
10:59and proposing
10:59specifically on
11:00the Most Favored Nation
11:01drug pricing policy,
11:02I'm gonna tell you
11:04a quick story here.
11:05Recently,
11:05a great friend of mine
11:06who's American,
11:07he has,
11:07he's been treated
11:08for Crohn's disease.
11:09It's an inflammatory
11:10bowel disease,
11:11as you know.
11:11And he was stunned
11:12to find that
11:13he pays $3,000 a month
11:15for the,
11:16for the,
11:16the medicine
11:17he's prescribed
11:18here in America.
11:19And once he was
11:20in Sao Paulo,
11:21Brazil,
11:21he paid simply $400
11:22for the same exact
11:24medicine.
11:26Uh,
11:26many Brazilians
11:27and I would guess
11:28citizens of the whole world
11:30are kind of
11:31worried that this
11:32could push drug companies
11:33to raise prices abroad.
11:34What is,
11:35how are you looking
11:36at this particular
11:37policy right now?
11:39Well,
11:39they,
11:40you know,
11:40the United States
11:41basically pays
11:44for global
11:45pharmaceutical research.
11:47So,
11:47U.S. citizens,
11:49uh,
11:50we account for
11:51about 70%
11:52of the profits
11:53for the pharmaceutical industry.
11:55We're only 4.2%
11:56of the world's population.
11:59And the reason
12:00for that
12:01is that
12:02other countries
12:02simply won't pay for it.
12:04And so,
12:05the drug companies
12:06sell to other nations
12:08to say,
12:08we're not going to pay
12:09for these,
12:10you know,
12:10these more expensive prices.
12:13And what we've now
12:14told the drug companies
12:15is whatever
12:16the lowest price
12:17that you're paying
12:18in any other nation,
12:19that's what you're
12:20going to charge here.
12:21and there's ways
12:23that we can do that.
12:24The way that we can do this
12:25is that most of the drugs
12:26that are purchased
12:27in this country
12:28are purchased
12:28by Medicaid and Medicare.
12:30The user government program
12:32so we can tell
12:33the drug companies
12:33we're not going to pay anymore.
12:35But we also want them
12:36to lower the price
12:37for the private market.
12:39And we have other,
12:40uh,
12:41tools
12:42for getting them
12:44to do that.
12:45We're trying to get them
12:45to volunteer to do that.
12:47And,
12:47uh,
12:48maybe you got to push
12:49a little
12:49further
12:51and a little stronger.
12:52Is that,
12:53are you facing
12:54some sort of
12:54persistence
12:56from Big Pharma
12:57particularly?
12:57Well,
12:58of course.
12:59But it's not only,
13:00it's not only
13:01the pharmaceutical companies
13:02but the other countries
13:03have kind of gotten
13:06a free ride
13:06on the United States
13:07because they're getting
13:08the benefit
13:09of all of our research
13:10and they're,
13:11they ought to be
13:12paying their fair share.
13:14We spend about
13:158% of our GDP
13:16on drugs.
13:18And in Europe
13:19they spend 3%.
13:20And so what we'd
13:23like to do
13:23is see them
13:24bring that up
13:25to maybe 6%.
13:27And if I might
13:28even add to that,
13:29some estimates say
13:30U.S. consumers
13:31pay up to 300%
13:32more on drug prices
13:33than their European
13:35counterparts.
13:36I think that goes
13:37along the same lines
13:38that you were
13:38describing, right?
13:40We spend a lot more.
13:43You can get,
13:44Ozempic for example
13:47in this country
13:48I think the list price
13:52is $1,300 a month
13:53and in London
13:56you can buy
13:56the exact same drug
13:57that's made
13:59in the same factory
14:01in New Jersey
14:01for $88 a month.
14:05And so President Trump
14:07has said this is something
14:08that has been bothering
14:09him a long time
14:10and that we're
14:12not going to do it
14:13anymore.
14:14In terms of the
14:15anxiety crisis
14:16both of our countries
14:16also face,
14:18WHO has ranked Brazil
14:20as the number one
14:21most anxious country
14:22on the planet.
14:24Other than that
14:25you've described
14:26the mental health crisis
14:27as the cannery
14:28in the coal mine
14:28here in the United States
14:29and particularly
14:31the cohort
14:31that has fallen
14:32the most behind
14:33in America
14:33are young boys.
14:36They're four times
14:37more likely
14:38to kill themselves,
14:39three times
14:40as likely
14:40to be addicted,
14:4112 times
14:41as likely
14:42to be incarcerated.
14:43You also see
14:44teen anxiety
14:45and depression
14:45rising 37%
14:47among girls
14:47and in Brazil
14:49I mean
14:50we have 8,000 cases
14:52per 100,000 people
14:53which is just
14:53a travesty.
14:55Both of our countries
14:56are within
14:58the top five
14:59social media
15:00using countries.
15:03How can you
15:04draw a link
15:04on that
15:05or can you
15:06describe that
15:06tendency for us?
15:07I think it's tough
15:08growing up today
15:10wherever you live
15:11in the world
15:11largely because
15:12of the food
15:13and we now know
15:16and there's
15:17a whole bibliography
15:19of emerging science
15:21that shows
15:21that food
15:23is connected
15:24to mental illness,
15:25it's connected
15:25to suicide,
15:26it's connected
15:27to depression
15:30and even
15:32at Harvard
15:32there's a
15:33professor,
15:35Dr. Polin
15:36who has
15:37cured people
15:39of schizophrenia
15:39by changing
15:40their diet
15:41and we know
15:43that dietary
15:43changes can have
15:44dramatic impacts
15:46on restoring
15:46mental health
15:47and a part of it
15:48is there's just a
15:49Could you cite
15:50what are the most
15:51nauseous
15:52depression
15:52inducing foods?
15:54well I mean
15:56one of the reasons
15:57that we banned
15:58the nine
15:58synthetic petroleum
16:00based guys
16:00is because
16:02they're clearly
16:03linked with
16:04with ADHD
16:06and
16:07there are
16:10there are
16:10multiple studies
16:11that anybody
16:12can find
16:13on the internet
16:13right now
16:14about changing
16:15diets in prisons
16:17and in juvenile
16:18detention facilities
16:19typically
16:21if you change
16:22the diet
16:23to whole food
16:24and prison
16:24the violence
16:25decreases
16:26by about 40%
16:28and one of the
16:30studies show
16:31in juvenile
16:32detention facilities
16:33that the
16:35suicide rate
16:38dropped by 100%
16:39that the use
16:41of restraints
16:42dropped by 75%
16:43and that infractions
16:47dropped by 60%
16:48or 70%
16:49and so
16:51and violence
16:52and you know
16:53all of these things
16:54are ultimately
16:55very very closely
16:56tied to food
16:57but you're right
16:58it's not just the food
16:59it's social media
17:00it's
17:02the sense of
17:03alienation
17:03of dispossession
17:05that
17:06and the malaise
17:09that people
17:10experience
17:10when they
17:11when they
17:13detach
17:14from their
17:14communities
17:15so
17:16the
17:17I think
17:18the social
17:19media
17:19has
17:20accelerated
17:22and amplified
17:23the
17:24sense
17:25of dispossession
17:26that people
17:26have
17:27and disconnection
17:28from community
17:28addiction
17:29is really
17:30a
17:30it's a
17:32it's a
17:33symptom
17:33of isolation
17:34you know
17:35the addiction
17:36is a
17:37disease
17:38of isolation
17:38and part
17:40of the
17:41recovery
17:42from addiction
17:42is about
17:43reestablishing
17:44people's
17:45connection
17:46to their
17:47community
17:47their
17:48relationships
17:48their sense
17:49their intimacy
17:50their bonds
17:51with other
17:51human beings
17:52and so
17:54you know
17:55there is a
17:55larger societal
17:57change
17:58that we have
17:58to
17:59work toward
18:00and
18:02we're doing
18:03that in this
18:04administration
18:05how about
18:05vaping
18:07and contraband
18:08policy
18:09which is also
18:09just incredible
18:11how in Brazil
18:12Mr. Secretary
18:12it has risen
18:13600%
18:15from 2018
18:16to 2023
18:17the youth
18:18consumption
18:19of vaping
18:20as you know
18:21many Chinese
18:21made vapes
18:22have been
18:22flooding the
18:23American market
18:24and American
18:25shelves
18:25the FDA
18:26recently seized
18:2734 million
18:28dollars worth
18:29in Chicago
18:30and in Brazil
18:32our regulatory
18:33health agency
18:34and visa
18:35banned it
18:36in 2024
18:36but teen vaping
18:38is just booming
18:39the grey market
18:40is prospering
18:41is there any
18:42practical advice
18:43you would give
18:43Brazilian policy makers
18:45on how we can
18:46tackle that
18:47excessive use
18:48that's been
18:48poisoning our youth
18:49you know
18:51there's two issues
18:52one is the
18:53Chinese vapes
18:53which are directed
18:56toward children
18:57they're you know
18:58they're very bright
18:59colors
18:59it's cotton candy
19:00flavors
19:01they are
19:02often accompanied
19:03by video games
19:05or other forms
19:06of entertainment
19:06that are directed
19:07towards children
19:08and
19:10and we're very
19:12worried about those
19:13and we're now
19:13doing a crackdown
19:14on them
19:15nationwide
19:16and it's the first
19:18crackdown that
19:19we've ever had
19:20on them
19:20but we're being
19:21very very aggressive
19:22about that
19:22at the same time
19:24we are
19:25we are fast
19:27tracking approval
19:28of vapes
19:30that don't do
19:30that
19:31because
19:31what we're seeing
19:33is you
19:34you know
19:35you made note
19:35of the fact
19:36that children
19:36are
19:37that vaping
19:39has dramatically
19:39arisen among
19:40children
19:41but cigarette smoke
19:43has gone down
19:43we have maybe
19:45one percent
19:46of American kids
19:48one to
19:48depending on
19:49the highest
19:50three percent
19:51generally speaking
19:53about one percent
19:54who smoke cigarettes
19:55and they
19:56you know
19:56the vapes
19:57are
19:57they don't
20:00they don't
20:01burn tobacco
20:02and nicotine
20:03itself
20:04does not cause
20:05cancer
20:05there's no
20:06evidence
20:07that it's
20:07carcinogenic
20:08it may in fact
20:10have some
20:11health benefits
20:12it's clearly
20:12addictive
20:13it may have
20:15other health
20:16benefits
20:16we have an
20:16NIH study
20:17that shows
20:18that it
20:19you know
20:21that it reduces
20:21onset of
20:24Alzheimer's
20:25and of
20:26dementia
20:26and so
20:29and it's
20:30it's infinitely
20:31preferential
20:32to smoking
20:33I think
20:33that
20:34the
20:36nicotine
20:38pouches
20:38are probably
20:39the safest
20:39way to
20:40to
20:41to consume
20:42nicotine
20:43vapes
20:44are second
20:45but the thing
20:46that we really
20:46want to get away
20:47from is cigarettes
20:48because the
20:48cost
20:49our
20:50country
20:51just if
20:52cigarettes
20:52smoke
20:53the health
20:54care costs
20:54about 640
20:55billion a year
20:56secretary
20:57you were
20:58one of the
20:59most outspoken
21:00critics of
21:01the official
21:02public health
21:03narrative that
21:04prevailed during
21:05the covid years
21:05and
21:07you have been
21:08you were quickly
21:09branded by the
21:10vested interests
21:11and the
21:12mainstream media
21:12here in america
21:14and the brazilian
21:15mainstream media
21:15largely
21:16regurgitates
21:18and basically
21:19toe their line
21:19in calling you
21:20an anti-vaxxer
21:21i'm sure
21:22you've answered
21:22that question
21:23a thousand
21:23times before
21:24but at least
21:25for the
21:25Brazilian
21:26audience that
21:26might be
21:27witnessing your
21:28words for the
21:29first time
21:29how would you
21:32respond to that
21:33and do you feel
21:33vindicated from
21:34all of the
21:36all of the
21:37reversals
21:38in how
21:39we actually
21:40evaluated
21:40the nature
21:41and the impact
21:42of the
21:43covid pandemic
21:44around the
21:45world
21:45i've never
21:46been anti-vaccine
21:48but
21:49applying that
21:51and you know
21:51i had all my
21:52children vaccinated
21:53i received all
21:54my vaccines
21:55but applying
21:57that pejorative
21:58to me
21:59of anti-vaccine
22:00is a way
22:00of marginalizing
22:02or vilifying
22:03me
22:03and of
22:05silencing me
22:06and saying
22:07well you don't
22:07have to listen
22:08to him
22:08because he's
22:09anti-vax
22:10and that same
22:12pejorative
22:12is applied
22:13to almost
22:14anybody
22:14who criticizes
22:15vaccine mandates
22:16that doesn't
22:17make them
22:17anti-vaccine
22:18or who
22:20criticized
22:21the covid
22:21response
22:22and the
22:22covid response
22:23was
22:23i would say
22:25appalling
22:26how so
22:27well because
22:29it was
22:29i think
22:30it's clear
22:30today
22:31that the
22:32emergency
22:32was used
22:34as a way
22:36of
22:36clamping
22:37down
22:38totalitarian
22:40controls
22:40and of
22:42shifting
22:42wealth
22:43upward
22:43lockdowns
22:45you know
22:45were the
22:46biggest
22:46transfer
22:46in wealth
22:47in human
22:47history
22:48trillions
22:50tens of
22:51trillions
22:51of dollars
22:52in wealth
22:52shifted
22:53from the
22:54poor
22:55around the
22:55world
22:55to
22:56large
22:57corporations
22:57to wealthy
22:58people
22:59and then we
23:00saw governments
23:01around the
23:01world
23:02ending
23:03democratic
23:04rights
23:05and constitutional
23:05rights
23:06and they've
23:07never recovered
23:07in most cases
23:08Europe is still
23:09Europe is a place
23:10where there's no
23:11freedom of speech
23:12where they're
23:12arresting people
23:13or criticizing
23:15government policies
23:16and putting them
23:17in jail
23:18so you know
23:19that's something
23:20that nobody
23:20would have
23:21believed
23:2110 years
23:22but it became
23:24a reality
23:24during COVID
23:25and then the
23:27medical policies
23:28and COVID
23:29were a departure
23:29from the standard
23:31policies for
23:32pandemic controls
23:33that were published
23:34by WHO
23:35by the European
23:36Medical Agency
23:37by CDC
23:40NIH
23:40and HHS
23:42we didn't do
23:43what we were
23:44supposed to do
23:44which is
23:45you know
23:45never lock down
23:46a society
23:47for a respiratory
23:47illness
23:48you isolate
23:51the sick
23:53you protect
23:54the vulnerable
23:55but you keep
23:56society moving
23:57and the lockdowns
23:58killed probably
23:58far far more
23:59people than COVID
24:00do you think
24:01the disproportionate
24:02death tolls
24:03in Brazil
24:04and the US
24:04reflect
24:05these failed
24:07policies
24:07and these
24:07totalitarian
24:08impulses
24:09you've just
24:09described
24:10or underlying
24:11health conditions
24:12that were already
24:13there
24:13of these two
24:14very sick
24:15societies
24:15that we've
24:16been mentioning
24:17I think both
24:18things are true
24:19and you know
24:20it's going to be
24:20hard
24:21you know
24:22one of the
24:23most frustrating
24:25parts about
24:25the pandemic
24:26response
24:27was the
24:28information chaos
24:29we were not
24:30told the truth
24:31about things
24:32and the
24:32information
24:34tabulating
24:36and collecting
24:37and analytical
24:37systems were
24:38designed to fail
24:39and so
24:41it's going
24:42to be
24:42hard
24:43ever really
24:44parsing
24:45out
24:45what
24:47caused
24:48you know
24:49what caused
24:50disproportionate
24:50deaths in
24:51some countries
24:52I'll say
24:53this
24:53and the
24:55lower
24:55vaccinated
24:56countries
24:56in the world
24:56tended to
24:57have the
24:59lowest death
25:00tolls
25:01and I'll give
25:01you an example
25:02and again
25:04you know
25:04you don't know
25:05because the
25:06information chaos
25:07and the
25:08different
25:08collection
25:09systems
25:09and data
25:10in different
25:10countries
25:11but in
25:13Haiti
25:14the death
25:15rate from
25:15COVID was
25:16about 14
25:17people per
25:17million
25:17population
25:18and they
25:20Haiti had
25:21a vaccination
25:23rate of about
25:241.3%
25:25very few people
25:27got vaccinated
25:27and yet there
25:28does not seem
25:29to have been a
25:29COVID pandemic
25:30in Haiti
25:31Nigeria
25:33had a
25:34had a
25:36death rate
25:36from COVID
25:37of 14
25:37per million
25:39population
25:39in our
25:40country
25:40the death
25:42rate was
25:43over 3,000
25:44people per
25:45million population
25:45so we are
25:46200 times
25:47the death
25:47rate of
25:48countries
25:48that were
25:48essentially
25:49unvaccinated
25:50America
25:514.2%
25:51of the global
25:52population
25:53right
25:53suffered over
25:531.1
25:54million
25:54COVID deaths
25:55represented
25:56about 16%
25:58of the COVID
25:58deaths
25:58in our country
25:59that's it
25:5916%
26:00and we
26:01have
26:01as you
26:02say
26:02around 4%
26:03of the
26:03world's
26:03population
26:04so we
26:04did worse
26:05than any
26:05country in
26:06the world
26:06Brazil
26:06was close
26:07was close
26:08right
26:08we were
26:08talking about
26:0912%
26:09of global
26:10COVID-19
26:11deaths
26:11while making
26:11up only
26:122.7%
26:13of the
26:13world's
26:13population
26:14so
26:14similar
26:15similar
26:15right
26:16yeah
26:16but
26:16if and
26:18when
26:18and god
26:19forbid
26:19it does
26:20the world
26:21and once
26:21again
26:21we
26:23witness
26:24a similar
26:24pandemic
26:25or even
26:25a harsher
26:26one
26:26how have
26:28you been
26:28actually
26:29implementing
26:29different
26:30protocols
26:31in order
26:32to prevent
26:32that
26:33looking
26:33forward
26:34and that
26:34catastrophic
26:35scenario
26:35we all
26:35want to
26:36avoid
26:36I mean
26:37I would
26:37say one
26:38of the
26:38main
26:38failures
26:39during
26:40COVID
26:40was the
26:42almost
26:43complete
26:43failure
26:44to explore
26:45therapeutic
26:45options
26:46and off
26:47the shelf
26:48options
26:48and we
26:51had a
26:51real
26:51opportunity
26:52because of
26:52the existence
26:53of the
26:53internet
26:5315 million
26:56front line
26:56physicians
26:57around the
26:57world
26:58and we
26:59should have
27:00been talking
27:00to them
27:00we should
27:01have been
27:01saying what's
27:02working in
27:02your country
27:03what's working
27:03in Bangladesh
27:04what's working
27:05in Argentina
27:05what's working
27:06in Brazil
27:07and harvesting
27:11that data
27:12and then telling
27:14the world
27:14these are things
27:15that people are
27:16trying that seem
27:17to be working
27:18there were deliberate
27:20attacks against
27:21hydroxychloroquine
27:23at the beginning
27:24of the pandemic
27:25and then against
27:26ivermectin
27:27later on
27:27and those
27:29are two
27:30therapeutic
27:32interventions
27:33that clearly
27:34worked very
27:35very well
27:35against COVID
27:36but there
27:36are many
27:37many others
27:37and all
27:39of them
27:39were systematically
27:40attacked
27:42because
27:42there was
27:45only one
27:46solution
27:46that we
27:47were allowed
27:47to consider
27:48and that
27:48was vaccination
27:49and so we
27:50were doing
27:51nothing to
27:51take care
27:52of sick
27:52people
27:52and in
27:53our country
27:54if you
27:56went to
27:56the hospital
27:57and you
27:57were maybe
27:58having a little
27:59trouble breathing
28:00but you
28:01were symptomatic
28:02of COVID
28:02and you
28:04got a
28:04positive
28:05COVID test
28:06you were
28:06told by
28:07that hospital
28:08there's
28:08nothing we
28:08can do
28:09with you
28:09go home
28:10till your
28:10lips turn
28:11blue
28:11and you
28:13can't
28:13breathe
28:14all
28:14and then
28:14come back
28:15here and
28:15we'll put
28:16you on
28:16a ventilator
28:17which is
28:17going to
28:18kill you
28:18or remdesivir
28:20which is
28:21going to
28:21kill you
28:21and this
28:23has never
28:23happened
28:24before
28:24if you
28:25even go
28:25to a
28:25hospital
28:26with a
28:26flu
28:26you're
28:27going to
28:27be
28:27treated
28:27somehow
28:28but we
28:29were told
28:30no
28:30there's
28:30going to
28:31be no
28:31treatment
28:31and then
28:33the lockdowns
28:34were irrational
28:35you know
28:35they were
28:35arresting
28:36surfers
28:37on the
28:37beaches
28:37in
28:38California
28:39and giving
28:39them
28:39thousand
28:40dollar
28:40fines
28:40for being
28:41out on
28:41the water
28:41COVID
28:43didn't
28:43spread
28:44outdoors
28:44COVID
28:45was
28:45spreading
28:46indoors
28:46so they
28:46were taking
28:47people
28:47forcing them
28:48indoors
28:49where COVID
28:51would spread
28:51to the whole
28:51family
28:52and so
28:53everything
28:53about it
28:54was
28:55not
28:56only
28:57wrong
28:58but it
28:58was the
28:59inverse
28:59of
29:00everything
29:01that you
29:01would
29:01actually
29:02want to
29:02do
29:03if you
29:03wanted
29:03to prevent
29:04a
29:04pandemic
29:04and
29:06you know
29:07those kind
29:08of questions
29:08need to
29:09be asked
29:09why were
29:10we asking
29:10people to
29:11do things
29:12that you
29:12know
29:12were not
29:13in their
29:14or in
29:14the health
29:15interest
29:15of them
29:15or their
29:16or the
29:16country
29:17in terms
29:18of food
29:18safety
29:19policies
29:19I mean
29:20what would
29:21you say
29:21is the
29:22specific
29:23one
29:23you're
29:24the proudest
29:25of
29:25or do you
29:25think
29:25is the
29:26most promising
29:26one that
29:27you've
29:27already
29:27implemented
29:27right now
29:28in order
29:28to finally
29:29change
29:30the much
29:31worrying
29:31tendencies
29:32and trends
29:33of sickening
29:35Americans
29:35well I mean
29:36we're very
29:37early on
29:38in the
29:38administration
29:38but we've
29:39already done
29:40more than
29:40any other
29:41administration
29:41in history
29:42we have
29:44commitments
29:44from 40%
29:45of the
29:47food industry
29:48to eliminate
29:49the nine
29:51synthetic
29:52petroleum
29:53based dyes
29:54and that's
29:56a huge
29:56achievement
29:57but also
29:57we are
29:59encouraging
30:00the states
30:01to apply
30:03for waivers
30:04the food
30:04stamp
30:05program
30:05so that
30:06the federal
30:07taxpayer
30:07will not
30:08be paying
30:08for it
30:09we spend
30:09in our
30:10country
30:10$405
30:11million
30:11a day
30:12on food
30:13stamps
30:13$405
30:15million
30:16a day
30:17and about
30:1812%
30:19of that
30:20goes
30:20buying
30:20sodas
30:21so you're
30:23taking
30:23the poorest
30:23population
30:24and you're
30:25giving them
30:26sugar drinks
30:27that are
30:27going to
30:27cause
30:28diabetes
30:28and so
30:30what we're
30:31asking the
30:32states
30:32to apply
30:32for waivers
30:33and there's
30:34already been
30:35a half dozen
30:36states have
30:36done that
30:37and we've
30:37got 20
30:37more that
30:38are in
30:38the process
30:39and they're
30:41saying okay
30:41we're not
30:42going to pay
30:42for candy
30:43with taxpayer
30:43money to
30:44feed poor
30:45people
30:45we're not
30:46going to
30:46pay for
30:47soda
30:48and we're
30:50going to
30:50get rid
30:51of other
30:52foods
30:53that can
30:54actually
30:55that are
30:55making people
30:56sicker
30:56and we're
30:57going to
30:57make sure
30:58that people
30:58have an
30:58opportunity
30:59to buy
30:59good food
31:00for themselves
31:00and their
31:01children
31:01hopefully Brazil
31:03will be able
31:03to mirror
31:03that to some
31:04extent
31:04but Secretary
31:05Kennedy
31:05if I might
31:06the whole
31:06COVID crisis
31:07and the
31:07ensuing
31:08repercussions
31:09and ramifications
31:10I'll say one
31:11other thing
31:11please do
31:12ultimately
31:13the change
31:15the dramatic
31:16switch
31:18transition
31:19in our food
31:19supply
31:20to healthy
31:21foods
31:21is going to
31:22have to come
31:22not just
31:23from government
31:23but it's going
31:24to have to
31:24come from
31:25consumer demand
31:26we can help
31:28that
31:28and you know
31:29I'll give you
31:30the example
31:30of France
31:31in France
31:32one third
31:33of the population
31:34has downloaded
31:35the Yucca app
31:36the Yucca app
31:37which is available
31:38around the world
31:38allows people
31:40to go into
31:41grocery stores
31:42and
31:42and
31:43put their
31:46cell phones
31:47on the barcode
31:48for all the
31:49different products
31:50and it gives
31:50those products
31:51a rating
31:51and then it
31:52will also
31:53offer you
31:54an alternative
31:54that is
31:55healthier
31:56and what
31:57happened in
31:58France
31:59is it's
31:59driven
31:59consumer demand
32:01for much
32:01safer products
32:02and that
32:03ultimately
32:03is what's
32:04going to
32:04change the
32:05markets
32:05it's if
32:06the consumers
32:07are saying
32:07we don't
32:09want this
32:10anymore
32:10and one
32:11of the
32:11things
32:11that
32:11you know
32:12my job
32:12is to
32:13inform
32:13consumers
32:14that this
32:14stuff is
32:15poisoning
32:15you
32:15and you
32:16better
32:16pay attention
32:17to it
32:17and then
32:19helping
32:19giving them
32:20the tools
32:20one of the
32:21things that
32:22we're doing
32:22in our
32:22country
32:23is we're
32:25right now
32:25making it
32:26your own
32:27health care
32:28records
32:28available to
32:29you on
32:30your cell phone
32:30so everybody
32:31will be able
32:32to look at
32:32their health
32:32care records
32:33and you'll
32:35be able to
32:36see whether
32:36certain things
32:37are certain
32:38changes in
32:39your life
32:39and interventions
32:40in your life
32:41and lifestyle
32:42changes and
32:43food changes
32:44are actually
32:45making you
32:45healthier
32:46we need to
32:47put Americans
32:48in charge
32:48of their own
32:49health care
32:49and get them
32:49to the
32:50stubborn line
32:50on the
32:51government
32:51the automatic
32:52reaction to
32:53some is that
32:53it's kind of
32:54too expensive
32:54to have a
32:55healthy lifestyle
32:55but considering
32:57these initiatives
32:57definitely
32:58it has to be
33:00you have a
33:00personal initiative
33:01it's a lot cheaper
33:01if you're healthy
33:02exactly
33:02precisely
33:03you know
33:03in our country
33:05in 1900
33:06we spent
33:07the average
33:08American spent
33:0920% of their
33:10income on food
33:10and 5%
33:12on health care
33:13today we spend
33:1420% of our
33:15income on health
33:17care
33:17and only 8%
33:18on food
33:19well you need
33:20to start
33:20recognizing
33:21that food
33:22is a medical
33:23intervention
33:23and that good
33:24food is going
33:25to be much
33:26cheaper in the
33:26long run
33:27than the food
33:29that's inexpensive
33:30in your grocery
33:31store
33:31I mean
33:32you hail
33:34from one of
33:35the most
33:35storied
33:36families
33:37in American
33:38life
33:38the Kennedys
33:39you're definitely
33:40the most relevant
33:41Kennedy
33:41in present day
33:43you're the
33:44nephew to the
33:4435th president
33:45John F. Kennedy
33:46the son to
33:47Robert Kennedy
33:47President Kennedy
33:49used to have a
33:50great relationship
33:50based on mutual
33:51respect
33:52not on charity
33:53and aid
33:53and submission
33:54with President
33:55Kubitschek
33:55who was
33:56responsible
33:56in the 1960s
33:58of building
33:58Brasilia
33:59our current
33:59capital city
34:00he was
34:01I mean
34:01they were great
34:02partners back
34:02then
34:03they actually
34:04started the
34:04Alliance for
34:04Progress
34:05in building
34:05economic
34:06development
34:06projects
34:07in Latin
34:07America
34:08after your
34:09uncle's
34:10death
34:10your father
34:11Bobby Kennedy
34:12then Attorney
34:13General
34:13to your
34:14uncle
34:14he visited
34:15the stilted
34:16Palafitas
34:16of Salvador
34:17and the
34:17shanty settlements
34:18over there
34:18there are just
34:19fantastic pictures
34:20from that
34:20a moment
34:21and the law
34:22school I attended
34:22which is the
34:23Pontificial Catholic
34:24University of
34:25Rio de Janeiro
34:26has a huge
34:26statuesque
34:28bronze bust
34:28of your uncle
34:29right in the
34:30center of our
34:31campus
34:32so there's a
34:33long story
34:34and just
34:36very
34:37considerable
34:38connection
34:38between your
34:39family and
34:39our country
34:40well I'll just
34:41comment on what
34:42you said
34:42my uncle
34:43had a deep
34:44affection for
34:45Latin America
34:45and he
34:47and you know
34:48President Kubitsch
34:49and President
34:50Frey from
34:51Chile
34:51President
34:52Pittencourt
34:53from
34:53Venezuela
34:55President
34:56Yeriz
34:57Camargo
34:57from
34:58Colombia
34:59launched the
35:00Alliance for
35:01Progress
35:01and they
35:01wanted to
35:02change the
35:03relationship
35:05into a
35:06partnership
35:06relationship
35:07as you point
35:07out with
35:08Latin America
35:09and before
35:09that
35:10US policy
35:12had been
35:13based upon
35:14a very
35:14pragmatic
35:15consideration
35:18of
35:19you know
35:20who was
35:21going to
35:21be the
35:21most
35:21anti-communist
35:23because we
35:23you know
35:24our
35:24stature
35:27and our
35:27posture
35:28in the
35:28world
35:28was that
35:29it was a
35:31battle
35:31between
35:31darkness
35:32and light
35:33between
35:33democrat
35:33democracy
35:34and
35:35communism
35:35and so
35:38and it
35:38made the
35:39United States
35:40very vulnerable
35:40our foreign
35:41policy to
35:42a foreign
35:42policy that
35:43said if
35:44you are a
35:45military
35:45if you're
35:46part of
35:47an oligarchy
35:47that hates
35:48communism
35:48because you
35:49don't want
35:49people to
35:49take your
35:50wealth
35:50and we're
35:52going to
35:52support you
35:53and we
35:54ended up
35:54supporting all
35:55the military
35:56dictatorships
35:57and the
35:58you know
35:58these oligarchical
35:59really semi-feudal
36:01systems which
36:02they add
36:02in your
36:03country
36:03my father
36:06visited by
36:07then I think
36:07President
36:08Coulard was
36:08in
36:09was
36:10right before
36:11the military
36:11movement in
36:121964
36:12right
36:13and
36:14and you
36:16know he
36:17when
36:18when my
36:19uncle died
36:20President
36:22Johnson
36:23switched back
36:25to that old
36:25foreign policy
36:26yep
36:27and he brought
36:28a guy in
36:29called Thomas
36:30Mann who
36:30had
36:30relations
36:32with the
36:33intelligence
36:34community
36:34and with
36:35the
36:35and with
36:37the
36:38oil
36:39interests
36:40and mining
36:42interests
36:42in to run
36:43the
36:44the
36:45Alliance for
36:46Progress
36:46and my
36:47father was
36:48very upset
36:48about that
36:49and he
36:49made that
36:50visit it
36:50visit in
36:5164
36:5265 to
36:53Brazil
36:53to Peru
36:55to Chile
36:56to the other
36:56Latin American
36:57countries
36:57and he said
36:58to them
36:59you know
37:00you are in
37:01charge of
37:01your own
37:01future
37:02if you don't
37:03like
37:03anaconda wire
37:04and cable
37:04running your
37:05country
37:05or IT&T
37:07you should
37:08have a
37:09revolution
37:09against them
37:10and that
37:11shocked
37:11everybody
37:12but it was
37:13something that
37:13he believed
37:14in and that
37:14he believed
37:15that these
37:15nations should
37:16have sovereignty
37:17and that
37:18they should
37:19dictate their
37:20own future
37:21and that
37:21that would
37:22make a much
37:23stronger
37:23partnership
37:24with the
37:24United States
37:25Mr. Secretary
37:26if we might
37:26delve a little
37:27bit into
37:27the personal
37:28side and
37:29political
37:29side of
37:29things
37:30how about
37:31we just
37:31go for a
37:34brief stroll
37:34down recent
37:35memory lane
37:36back to
37:36August 23rd
37:392024
37:40in Glendale
37:41Arizona
37:42when you
37:43endorsed
37:43President Trump
37:45and that
37:46took many
37:46by surprise
37:47for sure
37:47could you
37:48walk us
37:48through
37:49behind the
37:49scenes of
37:50that day
37:50and what
37:51did you
37:52actually
37:52consider
37:52electorally
37:53speaking
37:53the calculus
37:54that you
37:54made
37:55and
37:55particularly
37:56and I
37:57gotta hand
37:57it to
37:57you
37:57how
37:58the
37:58class
37:59act
37:59that
37:59you
37:59were
38:00from
38:00that
38:00point
38:25and the
38:25Democratic
38:25Party
38:26basically
38:27changed the
38:28rules
38:28to make
38:29it
38:29so that
38:30there's
38:30no way
38:30that I
38:30could
38:31win
38:31and I'll
38:32give you
38:33an example
38:33they passed
38:34a rule
38:34because I had
38:35been campaigning
38:36in New Hampshire
38:36which is the
38:37first state
38:37of a primary
38:38and so the
38:40Democratic Party
38:41passed a rule
38:42that said
38:43that anybody
38:44who sets
38:44foot into
38:45New Hampshire
38:46cannot get
38:47any delegates
38:47from New Hampshire
38:48and they were
38:50doing that all
38:50long
38:51they made it
38:51literally
38:52impossible
38:53I could have
38:53won 80%
38:54of the vote
38:54and I would have
38:55still lost
38:56the convention
38:56and so
38:58that
38:59you know
39:00people
39:01had given
39:03their lives
39:03and had given
39:04huge amounts
39:05of money
39:05to my campaign
39:06you almost
39:07made to that
39:07first debate
39:08you almost
39:08hit the 15%
39:09mark
39:09although the
39:10media pool
39:11they clearly
39:12subverted the
39:13criteria in order
39:13to avoid
39:14your presence
39:14there
39:15that would
39:15have been
39:15a first
39:16since 1996
39:17right with
39:18Ross Perot's
39:19second and
39:19final
39:20candidacy
39:21as a
39:22independent
39:23candidate
39:23right
39:23yeah
39:24were you
39:25frustrated
39:25about that
39:26I'm sure
39:26you were
39:27I was
39:30you know
39:31what I was
39:33doing
39:33was making
39:36decisions
39:36based upon
39:37the world
39:37that was
39:38given to me
39:38yep
39:39and the
39:40and the
39:42facts on the
39:43ground
39:43they were
39:44that the
39:44media would
39:45not cover
39:45my campaign
39:46and I'm
39:46not complaining
39:47about it
39:47it was just
39:48the fact
39:49of life
39:49for me
39:51to accomplish
39:52my agenda
39:53as best
39:54I could
39:55you had to
39:56go for it
39:56the best
39:57strategy was
39:58to
39:59merge my
40:01campaign
40:02with President
40:02Trump
40:02and when
40:04that happened
40:04you just
40:06did an interview
40:08where you
40:08mentioned how
40:09you discovered
40:09a more
40:10empathetic
40:11side to
40:11President
40:11Trump
40:12other than
40:13that
40:13your
40:14relationship
40:14with him
40:15spawns many
40:15decades
40:16but
40:16you've
40:17become
40:17closer
40:17and of
40:18course
40:18have
40:18this
40:19working
40:19relationship
40:19since
40:20February
40:2123rd
40:22if I'm
40:22not
40:22mistaken
40:22when you
40:22were
40:23confirmed
40:23other than
40:24that
40:25how have
40:25you been
40:26dealing
40:27with him
40:27and what
40:28have you
40:28discovered
40:29about him
40:30that you
40:30didn't know
40:30before
40:30I
40:32you know
40:33I've
40:33spoken
40:34about
40:34my
40:37changing
40:37impression
40:39of President
40:39Trump
40:40I
40:41accepted
40:42the
40:42mainstream
40:44media portrait
40:45of him
40:45as kind
40:46of a
40:46bombastic
40:47narcissist
40:47who didn't
40:50read books
40:51who was
40:51ignorant
40:52of most
40:53affairs
40:53who was
40:54impulsive
40:54and
40:56you know
40:58I found
40:58somebody who's
40:59completely
40:59different than
41:00that
41:00somebody who's
41:01extraordinarily
41:01empathetic
41:02that he
41:04is
41:05that he
41:06thinks about
41:06other people
41:07and the
41:07impacts
41:08you know
41:09I've spoken
41:10about the
41:10fact that
41:10every time
41:11he mentions
41:11the war
41:12in Ukraine
41:12he mentions
41:14the casualties
41:15on both
41:16sides
41:16of the war
41:16and
41:17whenever he
41:19talks about
41:19almost any
41:20issue of
41:20consequence
41:21he talks
41:23about the
41:23impacts
41:24on human
41:24beings
41:25he cares
41:25about people
41:26he's kind
41:28in his
41:30personal
41:30relationships
41:31he's been
41:32very very
41:32kind to me
41:33to my
41:33family
41:34to my
41:34wife
41:35to my
41:35children
41:35and
41:37also he's
41:39extraordinarily
41:39knowledgeable
41:40and
41:41you know
41:42he's a
41:42student
41:42of history
41:43right
41:43he is
41:43yeah
41:44he's a
41:45student
41:45of history
41:46and you
41:46know
41:46anybody
41:46who saw
41:47his interview
41:48this week
41:48where he
41:50went through
41:51the portraits
41:51in the Oval
41:52Office
41:52during the
41:53cabinet meeting
41:54and talked
41:55a little bit
41:56about each
41:56president
41:57can show
41:57that
41:57you know
41:58can get
41:58a display
41:59of his
41:59curiosity
42:00and his
42:00knowledge
42:01but he has
42:03encyclopedic
42:03knowledge
42:04about music
42:05about sports
42:06about UFC
42:07fighting
42:08and about
42:08boxing
42:09and about
42:11a lot
42:12of other
42:12issues
42:13I was on
42:15an airplane
42:15with him
42:16at one
42:16point
42:17and he
42:17was talking
42:18about the
42:18Mideast
42:19and he
42:21put it
42:21he asked
42:22for a piece
42:22of paper
42:23and then he
42:23drew a
42:25map
42:25a perfect
42:26map
42:26of the
42:26Mideast
42:27with all
42:27he has a
42:27very good
42:28hand
42:28and with
42:30all the
42:31nations
42:31and the
42:32troop
42:32strength
42:32in each
42:33nation
42:33and that's
42:35something
42:36that I
42:36think does
42:36not fit
42:37into the
42:38public
42:41narrative
42:41about
42:42President
42:42Trump
42:42he's very
42:44thoughtful
42:45he's strategic
42:46in his
42:46thinking
42:47and a lot
42:50of what he
42:50does may
42:50seem impulsive
42:51but
42:52if you look
42:54at the
42:54long term
42:55good of
42:55our country
42:56it's not
42:56good to
42:57have a
42:57trade deficit
43:00of 1.2
43:00trillion dollars
43:01a year
43:02it's existential
43:03and we
43:04can't
43:04continue
43:05and
43:05the
43:07tariffs
43:07maybe
43:08people
43:08would
43:08say
43:09well
43:09you
43:09should
43:09have
43:09done
43:09it
43:10over
43:10a
43:10longer
43:10period
43:11of
43:11time
43:11but
43:12President
43:13Trump
43:14knows
43:14that he
43:14only has
43:15four years
43:15and that
43:16most of the
43:17things that
43:17he accomplishes
43:18are going to
43:18be in his
43:19first year
43:19and so
43:21he's acting
43:22very very
43:22fast
43:23and this is
43:25true on all
43:25of these
43:25issues
43:26he feels
43:26an urgency
43:27and he
43:29acts quickly
43:30and he acts
43:30decisively
43:31and he knows
43:32what he wants
43:33and you know
43:34I respect that
43:36I think he's
43:36looking at
43:37the long term
43:38good of America
43:39with very few
43:40politicians
43:40still
43:41so Secretary
43:42Kennedy
43:42I know
43:43life must
43:44seem overwhelming
43:44given
43:45the dynamics
43:47of politics
43:48and all
43:49of the horse
43:49trading
43:50all of the
43:50pressures
43:50but what
43:51keeps you
43:52grounded
43:52today in
43:532025
43:53is it
43:54still your
43:54faith
43:54the outdoors
43:55is it
43:56your wife
43:57Cheryl
43:57is it
43:58your six
43:59children
43:59Bobby the
44:00third
44:00kick
44:01Connor
44:01Kira
44:01Finn
44:02and Aiden
44:02how would
44:04you
44:04or all
44:05of them
44:05I guess
44:05and Kat
44:06as well
44:06yeah it's
44:09all those
44:09things
44:09I mean
44:10I you know
44:11I try to
44:11live a
44:12balanced
44:12life
44:13and I
44:15you know
44:16I try to
44:17be centered
44:17when I
44:18approach
44:18life
44:19I do
44:19meditations
44:20every morning
44:20I do
44:21exercise
44:21every day
44:22and I
44:24try to
44:25make sure
44:27that I'm
44:27you know
44:29living in
44:29the higher
44:30vibrations
44:30and that I
44:31have
44:32you know
44:33that I
44:33make
44:33decisions
44:35based upon
44:36what I
44:38think is the
44:39right thing
44:39to do
44:40rather than
44:40what you
44:41know
44:41other people
44:42want me to do
44:43fantastic
44:43now to
44:44really wrap up
44:45the interview
44:45your reflections
44:46on your
44:47relationship
44:47to God
44:48was one
44:48of the
44:48most well
44:49posited
44:50and well
44:51thought out
44:51reflections
44:52I've ever
44:53seen
44:53would you
44:53mind
44:53just for
44:54our
44:54Brazilian
44:55audience
44:55and the
44:56Brazilian
44:57wide
44:57republic
44:57which is
44:58very much
44:58catholic
44:58your uncle
45:00the 35th
45:01president
45:01John F.
45:03Kennedy
45:03he was
45:03the first
45:04Roman
45:04catholic
45:04president
45:05and as we
45:06know
45:06Roman
45:06catholicism
45:07is so
45:07prevalent
45:07in Brazil
45:08a quick
45:09mention
45:09about
45:10that
45:10you know
45:12I
45:12because of
45:12my own
45:13struggle
45:13with
45:14addiction
45:14I
45:16the part
45:18of overcoming
45:19that struggle
45:20was
45:20developing
45:22you know
45:23what I would
45:23say is
45:24kind of a
45:24conscious
45:25contact
45:25with my
45:26God
45:27and
45:29trying not
45:30to live
45:30my life
45:31based upon
45:32you know
45:32addiction
45:33is about
45:34is about
45:35self-obsession
45:36and it's
45:36about you
45:37being
45:37living an
45:38ego-driven
45:38life
45:38and in
45:41order to
45:41recover
45:42you really
45:42have to
45:43make a
45:43transition
45:43and say
45:44I'm going
45:44to live
45:45for some
45:45other
45:46purpose
45:46and
45:48the way
45:50that you
45:51do that
45:51is by
45:52trying to
45:53stay in
45:53a posture
45:53of surrender
45:54of
45:55constantly
45:56saying
45:57am I
45:57doing
45:57the thing
45:58that God
45:59wants me
45:59to do
45:59right now
46:00and if
46:02you're not
46:02then having
46:03the discipline
46:03to change
46:04what you're
46:04doing
46:05and if
46:05you are
46:06then trying
46:06to be
46:07content
46:07within
46:08yourself
46:08and trying
46:09to be
46:10grateful
46:10I try
46:12to maintain
46:13that
46:13posture
46:17of surrender
46:17you know
46:19when
46:19I think
46:21most of
46:22us
46:22think about
46:24God
46:24when we're
46:24in a lot
46:25of trouble
46:25and you
46:27know
46:27it's like
46:27a foxhole
46:28prayer
46:28and addiction
46:30put me
46:31into that
46:31kind of
46:32trouble
46:32so that
46:33you know
46:33I was
46:34willing
46:34to say
46:35okay
46:35the way
46:36that I'm
46:36living
46:37my life
46:37is not
46:37working
46:38I need
46:39to let
46:39somebody
46:39else
46:39run
46:40my life
46:41but then
46:43you know
46:43when my
46:44life
46:44when your
46:45life starts
46:45to get
46:45better
46:46and the
46:48cash and
46:48prizes
46:48start flowing
46:49in
46:50I think
46:51all of us
46:52have the
46:52inclination
46:53to say
46:53thank you
46:53God
46:54I got
46:54it from
46:54here
46:55and then
46:55take the
46:56wheel of
46:56the car
46:56and drive
46:57it off
46:57a cliff
46:57again
46:58and the
46:59big
47:00challenge
47:00is
47:00staying
47:01in that
47:01posture
47:01of
47:02surrender
47:02even
47:03when
47:03everything
47:03is
47:03going
47:04well
47:04and
47:05connecting
47:06into
47:06that
47:06higher
47:07power
47:07and letting
47:09providence
47:09steer your
47:10life
47:10steer your
47:11life
47:12rather than
47:13ego
47:13thank you
47:14so much
47:14secretary
47:14Kennedy
47:15thank you
47:16I'm looking
47:17forward to
47:18coming to
47:18Brazil
47:18I'm looking
47:19forward to
47:19seeing you
47:20there
47:20a
47:26opinião
47:27dos
47:27nossos
47:27comentaristas
47:28não
47:29reflete
47:29necessariamente
47:30a opinião
47:31do
47:31grupo
47:31jovem
47:32pan
47:32de
47:32comunicação
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