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Accident Waiting to Happen Limitations of 120 Volt Welders
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7/24/2025
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Do you need a weld off of a 240 volt outlet or are 120 volt welders just fine?
00:07
This is a question that I have had a lot on the channel and the truth is the answer is kind of
00:15
complicated and it depends a lot on the different processes you're running so we're gonna look at
00:20
some examples with MIG, TIG, and STICK. Now with any process you're really limited on your amperage
00:28
output when you're welding on 120 volts. So we're gonna start looking at MIG welding here
00:33
and this is some 1 8th inch thick material and generally speaking 1 8th inch is kind of the
00:38
crossover point. So using the Revolution 2500 it's a dual voltage machine and I have it plugged in
00:44
to 120 volts now and I've set it on MIG and it's limiting the maximum output here because of the
00:54
120 volt input and it's recommending an eighth of an inch. Now I'm welding this coupon together here
01:02
and as I do that there's really no difference when I'm welding on these 1 8th inch coupons being on
01:09
120 volts and that's really the crossover point where there's no real change. Now when you get
01:17
thicker than that, not that you can't weld thicker material with 120 volts, but you are gonna have
01:23
to vary your technique a little bit compared to 240 volts where you're gonna have more amperage
01:29
available. And you'll also be limited a little bit on just how much strength you can get even if you
01:35
run multiple passes. But let's take a look here at this 1 8th inch thick material as kind of a point
01:42
of which there's really no distinguishable difference. It's a little wobbly there on my bead but certainly
01:49
acceptable for most things. I'm gonna use a fillet weld brake test and that's where I weld one side
01:55
and then bend the root open and you know this is kind of a garage type variant of it. There's a little
02:02
more to an actual fillet weld brake test. But anyway here I'm able to bend my material clear over and so
02:11
this is you know clearly a sound acceptable joint. But let's try some thicker material here, some
02:18
quarter-inch thick material. Now normally when I weld quarter-inch thick material I'd be using a
02:24
larger diameter wire with a lot more amperage. But since I'm limited on the amount of power I can get
02:31
out of this 120 volt outlet, I'm using the same settings as 1 8th of an inch and just a little bit
02:37
of weaving or kind of some loop-de-loop type manipulation. I don't really like doing this
02:43
and I can see that it's running in pretty cold. I'll give this another shot in a minute without a
02:49
camera in the way which will go a little better but I just want to show you what you can get from
02:54
this. And so when I look at the final results to me it looks pretty cold. Now there are a lot of
03:02
products that I dare say have welds that are worse than this that hold up. It's stronger than you'd
03:07
think but definitely not up to my standards here. Now it's holding up pretty well to the the big hammer
03:15
and I'm gonna need to move over to the hydraulic press to be able to open this up. Now you can see
03:22
it starting to open already. Now on a fillet weld brake test anything quarter-inch thick and over when
03:29
you just have a single pass like this is gonna break. It's not generally gonna bend over like the
03:34
eighth inch did and so that doesn't mean that it fails but it lets you see inside the joint if
03:40
there's any discontinuities and if it got into the root. And you can see that for most of the joint
03:46
it really didn't get down and consume the root of that joint and it was really just on the face of that
03:53
mill scale. Now I'm using the same settings here and you might notice there's a push angle instead.
03:59
That's not really the big difference. The bigger difference is I can see a little better to stay
04:03
on the leading edge of the puddle and that weld looks a lot better. Once again those same settings
04:08
I used on that eighth inch thick material but I can tell already how much stronger this is because
04:13
it's deforming. So with the right technique notice the edge on that top plate has been consumed all
04:21
the way along there so it's not straight anymore. That's kind of one of the big things to look for if
04:27
you try this test yourself to see that you got clear down to the bottom. So I feel really good
04:33
about this as a single pass but it is sensitive to the technique. And again this was over the mill
04:40
scale. I would remove the mill scale on a product I was welding. However I want to look at kind of
04:47
worst case. So I've plugged this into 240 volts which lets me crank the wire speed which also controls
04:53
your amperage by the way on wire feed welding if you're not familiar with how those work. But I'm
04:59
going to set it at 480 inches per minute which is going to be somewhere around 150 amps. If I were
05:06
running 035 wire which I would on quarter inch generally then it would be higher but I don't
05:11
want to change too many variables at once here. So I'm just running that 030. That's why I'm getting so
05:16
much spatter on it. It's because I'm really pushing the amperage beyond what that 030 wire should take.
05:23
So let's break this one open here and take a look and see. Now inside this one it's very similar
05:32
to the one that I ran previous to it. Now there's a little bit of delamination on the material which
05:40
isn't a problem with the weld but generally speaking it was a sound weld and it's a lot less
05:48
sensitive to the technique. I've changed over to stick welding here and I have this set at 95 amps.
05:54
This machine will run up to 110 amps on 120 volts which is really on the high end but 95 is usually
06:01
a max and that's enough to run a 3 32nd 7 inch 7018. Now if you can't get that high of an amperage you can run
06:09
a 3 32nd 7 inch 6013 and the great thing about stick welding is that the thickness of material doesn't
06:18
play in too much to your amperage. It's mostly the diameter and type of electrode that you're running
06:24
so you can weld as thick as you want to with a 3 32nd 7 inch 60 or 70 18 here and just running
06:33
multiple passes. So you can see it penetrated in to the root. I wouldn't have minded a little
06:39
bit more penetration but it's certainly by most people's standards at an acceptable level. So that
06:47
is going to be a good option if you want to weld thicker material on 120 volts is to use smaller
06:54
electrodes with stick. Now let's look at TIG welding and particularly aluminum TIG welding. See on steel and
07:00
stainless steel with TIG you can weld most things on 120 volts but with aluminum it takes a lot more
07:10
heat. It's generally more depending on your joint. So here on an outside corner joint on some 1 8th inch
07:17
thick material this machine will run up to 150 amps on TIG and I have the machine maxed out but I'm only
07:24
about you know two-thirds of the way down on the pedal for that outside corner joint. When I put it in a T-joint
07:30
configuration like this it takes a lot more heat. Now of course with the camera right there I'm gonna dip my
07:39
tungsten right off the bat but we'll just roll with it for the sake of demonstration. It's running a lot slower than
07:47
I'd need to and I am at full pedal here. So I really like to have my machine set closer to 170 amps when
07:54
I'm welding an inside corner or a T-joint like this on aluminum TIG and I'm limited to 150 here and some
08:03
machines would be limited to a lower amount if they didn't have as good of a power factor efficiency.
08:08
So this is really kind of the limit in my mind welding 1 8th inch thick material with a 120 volt
08:17
machine on aluminum TIG. I think you could do a little more especially with some preheat. However
08:24
if I was doing more on the regular I'd want a 240 volt machine. So just to summarize when you're
08:31
MIG welding I think 1 8th of an inch if you're doing much thicker than that regularly I'd want a 240 volt
08:37
machine myself because I think it's just much more robust but you can get away with a bit thicker
08:43
if you have good technique. Stick welding you're going to be limited to small diameter electrodes
08:48
but you can really weld as thick as you want with like a 3 32nds of an inch 7018 running multiple passes
08:54
but it's going to take you a while on thicker stuff. On TIG for steel and stainless steel you're
09:01
going to be in pretty good shape to run you know some small beads and multiple passes but when it
09:07
comes to aluminum I wouldn't plan on doing a whole lot thicker than 1 8th of an inch with a 120 volt
09:15
machine. You can get away with a bit if you use some preheat but I wouldn't do it on the regular.
09:21
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and thanks again for tuning in. We'll see you next time.
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