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Transcript
00:00Hey, welcome to the shop. Today we're going to stick weld some thicker steel. So I have some
00:04half inch thick mild steel tacked up in a T-joint here and I'm going to run a fillet weld on each
00:10side. One side I'm going to use a high deposition electrode in a single pass and then the other
00:15side will be my favorite electrode with three passes. So the high deposition electrode we're
00:20looking at is 7024. A common term for it is jet rod. That's actually Lincoln's trade name. I
00:29have not only a larger electrode that I selected, but it also has a ton of iron powder in the
00:36flux. That's why the flux is so big and that deposits just a ton of material in a hurry.
00:43It is limited to the flat and horizontal positions because you're putting down so much metal so fast.
00:49Now on the other side, I'm going to run my favorite electrode to run the one I've run the most,
00:52which is a 7018. This is a one eighth inch 7018. It's a little bit smaller diameter electrode.
00:58And while 7018s do have some iron powder in the flux to increase deposition, it's a lot less than
01:04a 7024. I've run a lot of 7018. I'm really familiar with it. I have not done much welding with a 7024.
01:12So I'm learning a little bit here alongside you to see where this might be useful. I've run a few of
01:18them, but not many. So this is the welder I'm using today. It's the MiG 2800 from HTP. If you've
01:24watched my channel, you know, they've been a longtime supporter of what I do here. And this
01:28is one of their new models. I've used it on some videos with short circuits, spray transfer mig,
01:33dual shield flux corn. Today, we're going to do some stick welding with it. And it also has an
01:38arc gouging mode. I'll put some links in the description to the other videos where I use it
01:43on wire feed as well as to the product page. So you can learn a little bit more about this if you
01:47are in the market for a machine like that. Now, one of the hardest parts here is just lining up to
01:52strike an arc with all of that thick flux on there. But once you get it lit up and camp out
01:59for a split second to establish the weld puddle, you can just rest that flux right on the material
02:05and it controls your arc length. This is often called drag rod because you can just drag it along
02:10and it's one of the easiest electrodes there is to run in my opinion and a lot of other people's
02:17opinions. So I'm running 180 amps here for this 532 inch electrode and I'm paying attention to my work
02:25angle and travel angle and travel speed. Just the fundamental elements of technique that I teach
02:30in my online courses. If you're trying to just learn the weld, it really is those basic fundamentals
02:35that if you understand, you can really run just about any electrode that you want and learn it really
02:42quick. So if you want to learn those from hands-on exercises, check out the description for links
02:47to my courses. But that weld took a total of 37 seconds to run. All right, let's see what we got.
02:57I love a good peeler. It's already starting to peel from the center right there. So not a lot to get this
03:03slag off of there. And I could just look at that all day. You know, I wasn't doing anything but dragging
03:10that rod seriously was just resting on the flux all the way along. Easiest weld I've probably ever
03:16run. Now this looks a little bit smaller than I was expecting. And so I'm going to grab a fillet weld
03:24gauge. This one right here is a quarter inch gauge. And so if I check the toes, it's close.
03:33I think on this bottom side, it's going to be just a little bit undersized.
03:42And through the throat, probably be just a hair small. Yeah, so this is going to size at a 3 16th,
03:52which is a little smaller than I was hoping for. But that's what we got with that 5 30 seconds rod.
03:56And I'm not sure that you can control a whole lot. You might be able to slow down just a little
04:02on your travel speed to deposit a little bit more weld. But you probably need to go to a bigger size
04:07electrode to really get a larger fillet weld than that. Let's run the 7018 and see what we get here
04:14on the backside. You know, after working with this bigger 7024, this 1 eighth inch 7018 just kind of
04:20feels like a little baby rod here. Now to run the 7018, I'm going to need to turn this down to
04:26somewhere around 125 amps for a 1 eighth inch 7018. It's a little bit smaller rod size and that type
04:34of rod just isn't going to take the same amperage. And I'm watching this and I've got the nervous hands.
04:39I'm just wiggling all over the place. Anyway, we'll go ahead and get an arc struck anyway. And right here,
04:45I'm doing basically the same thing. Now I'm not just dragging the flux along like I did with that
04:507024. I need to control that arc length manually. And that's critical. That's really the main variable
04:57when it comes to your technique is having a nice short arc length. So I need to be feeding that rod
05:02in the whole time. But the one thing I love about 7018 is that puddle is very recognizable. And you
05:09can see the slag just follows along behind it and fills everything in. So when I finish, I'm going to
05:16flick my rod, and that'll get any slag off of the end of the electrode. And you'll see it sitting
05:22there just solidifying on the table. And I'm good to go. All right, let's get some slag off of here.
05:32I didn't get a slag peel on that one. If I had run five amps hotter, I think I would have got it. I
05:37think that's the issue. But I'm not seeing any kind of undercut or anything that was locking the slag in.
05:41And sometimes it just doesn't feel off as easy as others. You know, it's just how it goes. So that's
05:48all right. So that bead doesn't look too bad either. Definitely a little bit smaller, not quite as
05:57smooth as the 7024. But 7018 can be just as smooth and certainly better than most of the welds at the
06:04theme park I was at with the kids yesterday. So let's take a look here. This is a 316-inch
06:11fillet gauge. And that's what the last weld sized at. And this one is just a shade under. So it's
06:17going to size at an eighth of an inch. And the other one sized at 316 being just about, you know,
06:29barely shy of a quarter inch. Let's run two more passes on this. And it's going to outsize that one.
06:35But that was the plan. So let's stick with the plan. You'll notice my angle is facing down into that
06:41bottom plate a little bit more. And I'm just overlapping that bead by about halfway here.
06:47And honestly, I could have ridden up a little higher on the first bead. But sitting right there
06:53around halfway is not a bad way to go. And that's going to build a little shelf for my third weld bead
07:00to sit on top of. So I'll finish that weld off and we'll take a look. All right. So I cranked that
07:06one up five amps to 130. And look at that peeler. That's all it takes. You know, you just got to get
07:11it dialed right in. But some rods don't peel like that. I had a box of rods once. It didn't matter what
07:17I did. It just about took a jackhammer to get it off. I mean, the weld turned out great. Nothing wrong
07:22with them per se. But you know, they just didn't always peel like that with that particular batch.
07:27Anyway, so what I've done here is I've run a second pass halfway overlapping that first root pass.
07:37And I'm going to put one more up on top of that like a little shelf. And that's how I'm going to
07:42make my three pass weld here. Now for the third and final pass. And I'm angled a little bit more
07:48into that top plate, but mainly paying attention to my arc length, my work and travel angles and
07:53travel speed, just those fundamental elements of technique. And I timed the arc on time for the
08:01three pass weld. And it was almost exactly three times the amount of time that I was welding for
08:06the single pass weld. So I had one minute 50 seconds for just welding this three pass versus 37 seconds
08:14for the single pass. And you've got to add on a little bit of time for chipping slag and loading
08:19your electrodes and things like that. So you can see how much more productive it would be to be able
08:23to just run everything with those single pass 70-24 rods if you can. All right.
08:31You can see the little three pass fillet weld. Two passes are showing. And this is a pretty common
08:37sequence right here. Let's check the size on this. I think in this case, we probably passed that quarter
08:45inch fillet weld size. Yeah, I'd size that at a quarter inch. So yeah, that's right about a quarter.
08:57Let's check through the throat with this side of the gauge. Yep, for sure. Here's the 70-24 single pass,
09:05just a hair smaller than the 70-18 three pass weld there. So fairly similar result. I think if I were
09:15trying to hit a quarter inch size, I'd need to add, you know, either a larger rod size here, or I could
09:23probably just slow my travel speed down a hair and hit it with that 70-24. But either way, a fairly
09:32similar result. Now let's go ahead and cut this apart and look at our weld penetration and see
09:39what we got with these two methods. Now if you look at the sparks I'm getting off this, that's because
09:44this is a Cermet carbide blade rather than a tungsten carbide tipped blade. They do spark a little bit more,
09:51but they hold up really well and still make a cold cut, believe it or not. So I had been using my
09:56port-a-band saw to cut through these samples, but I'd go through a blade every time I'd cut one.
10:03And so I switched over and started doing this. And it's amazing to me how fast it cuts through and
10:07how smooth the finish is. Let's take a look at the results here. The 70-18 on the left, I got good
10:14penetration into both plates. That's really what we're looking at from a process perspective.
10:18My bead number two is sitting just a little bit low. And so for that reason, I have kind of a
10:25strange profile, something that's less than ideal. So that is a, you know, good learning, uh, learning
10:31there. Cause from the surface, it's a little bit more difficult to tell that it was looking like
10:35that. Now on the 70-24, you can see there is just a slight lack of fusion down at the root there that
10:42could probably be corrected with a little bit higher amperage, but then you're going to be fighting
10:46undercut and some spatter. So you're kind of dancing in between there when you're running
10:51in the horizontal position and putting in so much material all at once, but it did penetrate
10:56into both plates, not to the same extent as the 70-18 did. So what can we learn from this? Well,
11:04don't jump to the conclusion that 70-24 gives you a beautiful yet garbage weld and 70-18 gives you
11:12something very nice that always penetrates on this particular day with the machine
11:16settings I used and my technique today and this brand of rod and this particular material and
11:21the exact cross section I took had a slight lack of fusion and whether that's a defect or not
11:26depends on your criteria. The 70-18 did penetrate a little bit better. And I think it is going to be
11:31more reliable from a penetration perspective. Now, I think 70-18 is a more useful all around
11:39electrode because you can weld it in all of the different welding positions, vertical overhead,
11:43things like that, where 70-24 is just going to be that flat and horizontal fillet weld. So
11:50it's more of a specialized rod there, but either way can definitely get the job done. I think with
11:55a little bit more amperage and perhaps a little bit more work on the exact technique, I probably would
12:02get even better result with that 70-24. So just keep that in mind. Now I did a similar test to what we
12:10did here today with some wire feed processes, short circuit and spray transfer MIG, as well as dual
12:15shield flux corn. Some recent videos I'll link in the description. So if you want to see how those
12:19compare, you can check those out. Those were also done with this MIG 2800 from HTP. The more I use this
12:25machine, the more I'm impressed with it. Honestly, they really thought about the user in an all-day heavy-duty
12:33use application. But even if you're a hobbyist, it's always nice to have a little bit better tool
12:38and invest a little bit more upfront. So check out the link in the description for those videos,
12:43as well as for the machine. And if you are just learning how to weld, watching YouTube videos alone
12:48isn't going to do it. You need to get out there and practice. So go practice this. If you want me to guide
12:53you through step-by-step exercises to learn way faster with hands-on practice, check out the online
13:00courses linked in the description below. I keep them as affordable as possible and they'll help you get
13:05going faster. Thanks a ton for tuning in. We'll see you next time.

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