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We have a ton of topics to cover with Josh Appel but it all gets derailed when he admits to never having seen Scarface.
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00:00This is when Tony went to rollin' in Miami.
00:02Went to rollin'.
00:04The world is yours.
00:06Yeah, Tony was ballin'.
00:07Who told us they hadn't seen Scarface?
00:10Was it Giselle Espinallis?
00:11I thought it was you.
00:13No, I love Scarface.
00:15I think it was Giselle. Giselle did say she's never seen it.
00:18My family told me she's never seen it.
00:19Giselle's on the Toyota of Hollywood Hotline.
00:21You've never seen Scarface?
00:22Never seen Scarface. That's a great song for a montage in a movie, though.
00:26That's embarrassing, man.
00:28You're embarrassing.
00:28You've never seen Scarface?
00:34Okay, Godfather.
00:36What? I've seen it.
00:37Yeah, okay.
00:39What? I've seen it.
00:40You can't use that on me. I've seen it.
00:43How could you have grown up in Miami and not seen Scarface?
00:46I didn't grow up in Miami.
00:47I grew up in Broward County.
00:48Alright, well, you grew up closer to Miami than most of the country.
00:52You've never seen Scarface.
00:53I've been to that CBS, though.
00:56Isn't there like a CBS where they film it,
00:58and there's like a little sign on the wall?
00:59This is where they filmed Scarface?
01:01I've been there.
01:02I didn't think CBS existed when...
01:04Well, no, the building that he walked into on Miami Beach is now a CBS.
01:10And it's the same structure of the building.
01:13It's been remodeled a couple times since.
01:15It was an Eckerd back then.
01:16That's just embarrassing, Josh.
01:18Josh Appel is an NFL play-by-play broadcaster nationally for Sports USA.
01:23He's going to be on the call for Dolphins-Jaguars preseason game three on August 23rd.
01:30That's a home game for the Dolphins?
01:32Home game, yep.
01:33Because if it was up in Jacksonville, you could do a little double dip,
01:36watch a little Matt Mervis, and then catch a Dolphins game up in Jacksonville.
01:39Well, he's shadow banned, of course, so I don't know if I'd be able to see him up there.
01:42You wouldn't be able to recognize him, at least.
01:44And Josh is going to be on the call for two USL championship games this Saturday on ESPN+.
01:51All right, I have a lot that I want to cover with you, Appel.
01:54So let me just start going down the list here, though.
01:56No, let me start with this.
01:57The All-Star game was decided by a swing-off.
02:01Did you like that or not like it?
02:03Because you're a baseball guy.
02:05Now, here's the difference.
02:07Solana, I don't know what he was babbling on about yesterday,
02:10because he's not a baseball guy.
02:12He was offended by the swing-off while suggesting baseball is terrible and needs to be fixed.
02:21So it was a very incongruous argument.
02:23Appel is actually a baseball guy.
02:25So did you like the swing-off?
02:28I loved it.
02:28And I love that Kyle Stowers got to be part of it.
02:31And I loved how authentic the reactions were from the guys who had no idea they were going to be in it.
02:37And I was just hoping that Kyle Stowers wasn't going to be the one that hits zero home runs.
02:41Thankfully, he was able to get one out of there.
02:44I loved it.
02:45Everybody wants to go home.
02:48Players already had gone home.
02:50Yeah, they'd already gone home at that point.
02:52Nobody wants to watch extra innings in an All-Star game.
02:54And it's the perfect way to end it, a nice little fun way to cap off the weekend.
02:58It was great.
02:59It's the perfect way to decide an All-Star game, especially when it doesn't decide anything meaningful anymore.
03:05And you got to see some schwarbombs.
03:06It was great.
03:08But Aaron Judge can't get to Aruba at 3 a.m. over 1 a.m.?
03:13That was kind of embarrassing to me that the players are actually gone from the stadium.
03:17I don't think that's too rare, though, necessarily.
03:21I'm fine with it.
03:23It's almost like spring training or a minor league rehab assignment where a guy will come down, he'll play his three innings, he'll get his two at-bats, he'll pack up his stuff, and he'll leave.
03:32I'm okay with it.
03:35Because, look, it opened up a spot for Kyle Stowers.
03:37But what if they made it for a regular season, though?
03:39Is there any conversation to be had for making a dong-off, the regular season game ends in a tie, you do a dong-off instead of extra innings?
03:51I'm cool with that if it's like we get through 12 innings and we still don't have a winner, then we go to the dong-off in what would be the 13th inning.
03:59You already have a lot of resistance to the ghost runner at second base.
04:02So I think going from the ninth inning tied to a swing-off, the baseball purists, I don't consider myself one of them.
04:11I do love the sport, though.
04:12Costas, gamins.
04:14Well, then I got to deal with the one point I will give to Solana.
04:18Like, this Dino Ebel, the guy who was throwing a Kyle Stowers, he was throwing sliders and slurves, and there was nothing in the hitting zone for him to get out.
04:26It was a really poor performance from the 70-year-old who was throwing from behind the L screen.
04:30We need better BP tossers if we're going to do this.
04:33But why not?
04:34I'm cool with the home run derby then, the mini home run derby to end it after 12.
04:38But why not bring out, like, the electric pitching machine?
04:42Like, when you go to the cages or when these guys are doing BP, and my rationale here is it's an even playing field.
04:49Everybody's getting the same pitches, and they're going to be perfect because it's mechanical.
04:54You don't have to have some old guy go out there and stretch his arm and throw 10 pitches.
04:59And I'm sitting there watching him throw 10 pitches, warming up before Stowers even considers hitting one.
05:04Like, that to me is what I found infuriating.
05:07I turn on what was supposed to be a mini home run derby, and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to see dongs, dongs, dongs, dongs.
05:13I just want to see dongs in my face.
05:16And instead, it's just old guy tossing pitches that Stowers has no intention of hitting for the first 20 minutes.
05:26Well, you've got to see the pitches first, right?
05:27You've got to know what you're going up against.
05:29And I know I just criticized them, but I don't want Dino Epple thrown out of shoulder.
05:33He needs to warm up.
05:35Yeah.
05:36Dino Epple.
05:37He's like, what, a pitching e-bug almost.
05:41Yeah.
05:42Yeah.
05:42I can see that.
05:43I'm fine with it.
05:44Were the Panthers, Josh is a hockey expert as well.
05:50I'm going through the checklist here.
05:51Were the Panthers done dirty by having a 5P, wait until I get to professional wrestling.
05:58Were the Panthers done dirty?
06:00I can't believe you've never seen Scarface.
06:02Never seen it.
06:04I just, hello to my little friend, cocaine.
06:06Like, I know that.
06:07I get the gist.
06:08I get the idea.
06:08I said, hello, my little friend, cocaine.
06:12Wait, you're not wrong.
06:14I got you.
06:16He's locked in.
06:17I got you, Tony.
06:18You've never seen Scarface.
06:19That's why.
06:20Have you seen Goodfellas?
06:21No.
06:22Oh, my God.
06:23But I've seen all three Godfathers.
06:25What?
06:26Have you seen Casino?
06:28No.
06:30What?
06:30Donnie Brosco?
06:32Who?
06:33He doesn't like violence, Hawk.
06:35You know, Epple's a pleasant dude.
06:37He don't want all this violence in his life.
06:40I don't mind violence.
06:41You've never seen Goodfellas?
06:44Nope.
06:47Hmm.
06:53So were the Panthers done dirty by this 5 p.m. start opening night?
06:58I mean, it's certainly not ideal,
07:03but any time you can carve out time in prime time
07:07to kick off the season featuring two teams
07:10that didn't make the playoffs last year
07:12and have basically restarted both of their organizations
07:16around their old stars,
07:18you have to do it.
07:19You have to make time at 8 o'clock for Rangers.
07:22That opportunity when it rarely comes up.
07:25I mean, that's massive disrespect, no?
07:27I don't really understand it.
07:29And I feel bad for the people who are down here
07:31because here's what's going to predictably happen, all right?
07:35The game's going to start at like 5.30
07:36because they'll push the banner raising as far as possible.
07:40But it's still going to be like 5.10 they start
07:43or 5.15 they start the banner raising.
07:46People are working on a Tuesday.
07:48What do you think is going to happen?
07:49A lot of empty seats in the crowd.
07:51I think it's going to be bad.
07:52I don't think it matters.
07:53No one's going to be watching.
07:54You're telling me around the country
07:55people are going to be watching at 5 o'clock?
07:58Hawk, there's going to be screenshots
08:00that are put on Twitter.
08:02Oh, look at this South Florida.
08:06They don't appreciate their team.
08:07They can't even be bothered to show up on time
08:09for the banner raising ceremony.
08:11We deserve it in Canada.
08:12Move them to Quebec.
08:14I'm telling you.
08:15That's what we're going to see.
08:16And I feel like we had finally busted out of that stigma
08:18being a bad hockey town.
08:19I think we'll have a full house at 5 o'clock for it.
08:22I'll be there.
08:24But, hey, Josh, even that, though,
08:26because now it's back-to-back cup champions
08:29and it seems as if a Solana brought it up.
08:31Like, it's disrespectful.
08:32Do I have to win three, four, five, six
08:34to be respected as one of these big six
08:37or whatever the hell they call them?
08:38And here's the original six.
08:39We're an original seven franchise,
08:41so I don't think there's any debate about that.
08:42But here's the other part to me.
08:46You have the pick of the litter on the matchups
08:48that you can have to launch your season.
08:52All the teams the Panthers have played in the postseason,
08:54whether it's in the Western Conference,
08:55in the Cup Final, the Oilers, or Vegas,
08:57or all the teams I've had to go through
08:59over the last few years in the Eastern Conference.
09:01And they're starting with the Chicago Blackhawks?
09:06Like, the NFL, by total randomness,
09:09can have Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers
09:12against Justin Fields and the Jets
09:14just fall into their lap in week one.
09:16And here we are on a 5 o'clock on a Tuesday
09:18with the defending back-to-back Stanley Cup champions
09:21who have been to the Stanley Cup Final
09:23three straight years,
09:24playing one of the two worst teams in the league
09:26over the last three years.
09:27But to be fair, isn't Conor Bedard,
09:29like, aren't they really trying to make him
09:31the next big thing?
09:32He was the number one overall pick two years ago.
09:34I'm just asking because I agree that Panthers-Blackhawks,
09:39like, it doesn't do anything in terms of a rivalry aspect,
09:42but you have the Panthers were the defending champs
09:45and the Blackhawks were, like, this young,
09:47supposed to be great team.
09:48Well, put it at 8 o'clock then.
09:49Put the eyeballs on the Panthers and Bedard.
09:52Oh, I'm with you on that.
09:53I'm just saying in terms of the matchup,
09:55like, that didn't upset me as much
09:56because Conor Bedard,
09:58outside of maybe three or four guys in the NHL,
10:00is one of the biggest names
10:02or they're trying to make him one of the biggest names.
10:03I don't disagree with that.
10:06That's just the extra added layer of,
10:09hey, we're starting you at 5 o'clock on a Tuesday
10:11and you're playing a team that has no juice
10:14in this matchup to kick off a season.
10:17I saw somebody compare it to, like,
10:18soft launching a significant other on Instagram
10:21by just, like, putting him in the story or something.
10:23At a Coldplay concert?
10:24Yeah, exactly.
10:25Boy, they hauled ass when they saw that camera.
10:33Is that the worst way to find out
10:35that your husband likes Coldplay?
10:41Damage is done.
10:42Can you imagine being busted liking Coldplay?
10:49What's wrong with Coldplay?
10:51I don't know.
10:51Solana spent, like, $1,000 on Coldplay tickets
10:54for him and his fiancée.
10:55I've heard it's one of the best live concert experiences,
10:58like, of anybody that you can go and see.
11:00I would go see Coldplay in a second.
11:03I love their music.
11:04Clocks?
11:04Who doesn't love Clocks?
11:05The only song anyone knows, Clocks.
11:08I don't like that emo stuff.
11:10Them whining boys get to me.
11:12It couldn't be more opposite of emo.
11:15Emo is black, dark.
11:17This is the most colorful, bright, everything, uplifting type of,
11:22I don't know, emo.
11:22I'm not really sure where you're getting emo from, Cole.
11:24What's wrong with black?
11:26You mean Elmo?
11:27You're talking about Elmo?
11:28You don't like the Elmo stuff?
11:29No.
11:29Because he went haywire, too.
11:33They whine a lot, man.
11:35I don't like a whine.
11:36You're talking about Elon?
11:36I don't know what you're talking about.
11:39What is Clocks again?
11:42Clocks.
11:42Play Clocks, Jimmy.
11:43No, I'm teasing.
11:44We've done this already.
11:45Jimmy, call Coldplay.
11:46Jimmy is holding out on these calls, Josh.
11:51Have you seen Carlito's Way?
11:54Carlito's Way?
11:55No.
11:57Kleinfeld?
11:57You've never seen Kleinfeld?
11:59I've seen Seinfeld.
12:02Oh, this is shocking.
12:03You ever seen any of the Friday movies?
12:06No, but I know the clip everybody knows.
12:07Oh, my God.
12:09You've never seen the Friday movies?
12:11If where the two guys are in the chair and they go,
12:13whoa, and they move to the side and then bye, Felicia.
12:17I get that.
12:17Again, I get the idea.
12:19They're very black.
12:20Very black, Josh.
12:21Well, I don't think he likes Italians or black people,
12:24just based on the movies he hasn't seen.
12:27That's where I'm kind of going with this.
12:28I mean, I like The Sopranos and I like The Godfather.
12:31All right.
12:31Isn't The Sopranos, though?
12:33I don't know if it's called The Sopranos.
12:34Have you really seen it?
12:36You know what was released today, on this day?
12:39I maintain.
12:40Tell me what you think.
12:41Have you seen Trainwreck?
12:43Is that?
12:44Hold on.
12:44Amy Schumer.
12:45Amy Schumer.
12:46Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:46Yeah, yeah.
12:46Okay.
12:47I figured you'd seen that.
12:48Yeah.
12:48Trainwreck was released on this day in 2015,
12:52and I maintain LeBron.
12:57See, he's already shaking his head.
12:59I maintain LeBron was a phenomenal actor in that movie.
13:04Phenomenal.
13:05It's very believable that he and Bill Hader would be friends
13:08and just grab lunch any time in the middle of the day in Los Angeles.
13:12But that's what made the acting job so good, no?
13:15He made you believe it.
13:16I did.
13:18Did you think that movie was a good movie?
13:19I thought it was a good movie, but I thought LeBron was excellent in it.
13:23I have.
13:24You've seen Uncut Gems, yeah?
13:26No, I have not seen Uncut Gems.
13:27Oh, with the love of God, man.
13:30I've only refused to watch it because you talk about it so much
13:35and you've watched it so many times.
13:37I made the principled stand not to watch it.
13:39If for nothing else, watch it for Kevin Garnett's performance,
13:43because I'd love to have the conversation about actors,
13:46athletes who become actors,
13:48and Kevin Garnett is so good in Uncut Gems,
13:53you almost don't even believe you're watching Kevin Garnett.
13:57The best athlete-to-actor performance I've ever seen
14:02is Dave Bautista, the wrestler, as Drax in Guardians of the Galaxy.
14:06He's a real actor.
14:08Because he played Drax.
14:10I'm going to give you a guess what LeBron played in Trainwreck.
14:14LeBron.
14:15Kevin Garnett.
14:16Uncut Gems.
14:17He played Kevin Garnett.
14:19This is my thing with Hawk.
14:21You're not a great actor if you play yourself.
14:23You're just talking now.
14:24Yeah, but when you throw that camera out
14:27and you have a scripted line,
14:29it changes the game a little bit.
14:31And you can tell LeBron is reading.
14:33You didn't even know you were watching Kevin Garnett
14:35as Kevin Garnett in that movie.
14:37If you didn't know Kevin Garnett, you know what I mean?
14:41What did he just say?
14:43You understand what I'm saying?
14:46Run it by one more time.
14:51Have you seen Superman yet?
14:53I'm going this weekend.
14:54What are your expectations?
14:57I'm expecting it to be pretty good.
15:01Anybody else seen Superman yet?
15:03I've seen a lot of reaction to it from people.
15:06Like Kirk Herbstreet retweeted the Mike Francesa review of the movie.
15:10And the only...
15:12The Mike Francesa review is dumb.
15:15It's just entertaining.
15:16And so, like, if I see someone co-signing a pop culture review
15:21from Mike Francesa in 2025,
15:23other than to just, like, appreciate the delivery
15:26and the ridiculousness of it,
15:28immediately rule it out as having a valid opinion.
15:30Lee Sterling hated the movie.
15:32And Jim Laranaga texted me yesterday.
15:35I don't know if I shared this on the air
15:36because he was on with us early this week
15:38to talk about that Bleacher Report list.
15:40And he said he would go see it on behalf of the show.
15:44He saw it yesterday.
15:45He texted me.
15:46He said he will be recommending it to no people ever.
15:50But he said it in a very nice way.
15:53He did not like the movie.
15:55Hmm.
15:55Did he say why?
15:57Well, I told him to save it for the air.
15:59I happened to love it.
16:00I thought it was great.
16:01I mean, I just don't know what people, like,
16:03expect from superhero movies.
16:07Exactly.
16:07Or is it not believable enough for you?
16:09Yeah, that's, like, Solana's big thing.
16:12I'm not giving away any spoilers.
16:13There's a dog in it.
16:14But, like, everyone wants to go,
16:16oh, there's a dog?
16:18There's a dog in it?
16:19Like, that's so unbelievable.
16:22It's from the comics.
16:23But the fact that this guy got launched to a different planet
16:25from another planet on, like, some baby bassinet rocket ship,
16:30that's believable.
16:31But the dog?
16:32Oh, how could there be a dog in it?
16:35A dog?
16:36A dog?
16:38The dog is from the comics, too.
16:40They didn't just make the dog up out of thin air.
16:43Bingo.
16:43Like, people love to crap on the previous DC superhero movies
16:47and Superman movies and for good reason.
16:50And now, like, they're complaining
16:53that it's not like the old Superman movies.
16:55It's very bizarre to me.
16:57Well, let me tell you something.
16:58I know not many people will agree with this,
17:00but this happens to be the truth.
17:01The DC movies are much better than the Marvel movies.
17:06I don't know about that.
17:08I mean, I know about that,
17:10and that's just flatly ridiculous.
17:12I own that.
17:13I own that take.
17:14The DC movies.
17:14And nobody will kick you off that hill.
17:16You got it.
17:16The DC movie series is better than the Marvel movie universe.
17:21You can have that.
17:22Mm-hmm.
17:23Marvel, Marvel, MMU.
17:25The Marvel movie universe.
17:27Right.
17:27So, for your next appearance, Josh,
17:30please see which of those movies.
17:34I wrote them all down.
17:35Goodfellas, Scarface.
17:36Like, which one do we have to make them all?
17:38Gotta go Scarface.
17:39I started a list.
17:40Movies, Appellas, not seen.
17:43Goodfellas, Casino.
17:44To me, are two of the best movies ever made.
17:47And, like, we all love those movies on this show.
17:50Goodfellas and Casino.
17:51If you're the best member of the show.
17:51Well, the fact that you like to gamble
17:52and you've never seen Casino is, like, mind-boggling to me,
17:55but I don't know how you've never seen Uncut Jettles.
17:57Those movies are better than Benchwarmers.
17:59Give me a break.
18:03Well, I say Scarface.
18:05Scarface has to be the first assignment.
18:07Gotta see Scarface.
18:07You're not coming back on this show
18:09until you've seen Scarface.
18:11Okay.
18:12Fair?
18:12Sure.
18:13All right.
18:14And don't watch it the way you watch everything else.
18:17What do you want?
18:17I told you.
18:18I went to a movie with him.
18:19I went to F1 with him.
18:20Oh, yeah.
18:20He was on Twitter the entire movie.
18:23He's sitting in the movie theater.
18:24He couldn't put his phone down.
18:26That's so lame, dude.
18:26He tried to nab me, by the way,
18:29while he's sitting on his phone.
18:31While he's sitting on his phone.
18:33I had to break protocol
18:34in order to show you breaking protocol.
18:37He tried to do that,
18:38and my phone was back in the cup holder,
18:40and then I tapped him on the shoulder.
18:41I was like, actually, you know what?
18:42It's really funny.
18:43I'm going to take my phone again.
18:44That's a lie.
18:45That's a lie.
18:46I busted him.
18:49Busted him.
18:50I hate that.
18:50Put your phone in your pocket.
18:52If you can't go two hours
18:53while literally being given something to do
18:57without your phone,
18:58like, dude,
18:59you're just on another level of brain rot.
19:01You've got to put your phone to do.
19:02Okay.
19:03Hey, tell me more about Uruguay
19:04and their soccer game.
19:06What does that have to do with anything?
19:13What does that have to do with anything?
19:14That was a good story.
19:16A truthful story.
19:18Story.
19:19Story.
19:20The key word.
19:20Story.
19:21Oh, you can't go two hours
19:23without seeing what Kirk Herbsey had to say.
19:25A flying dog is more believable
19:26than the crap you laid on us yesterday.
19:31By the way,
19:32I'm unavailable to fill in on July 16th
19:34for the rest of the year.
19:35Get ready, Jimmy,
19:38because I'm not working the Hawks out.
19:40Josh Chappell.
19:44All right, Josh.
19:45Do we cover everything on the list?
19:46Yes.
19:47Go watch Scarface right now.
19:49Okay.
19:50All right.
19:50Josh Chappell, ladies and gentlemen.
19:52Always appreciate his time.
19:53Thank you, guys.
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