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00:00Let's go to Jan in Mountain View.
00:02Hi, Jan.
00:02Thanks for calling Willie and Debbie.
00:03What's up?
00:05Yes, good afternoon.
00:08I just wanted to bring up a point that, okay, you've been talking about pitchers.
00:15Well, I think a lot of it has to go on the batter, too.
00:19When the Giants get two runners on, they can't advance the runners when they have no outs
00:27or they have even one out.
00:28And you have Bailey that is struggling at the plate, or maybe it's your second time up
00:36and you don't have it that night.
00:39Well, you know, it brings back the philosophy of basketball.
00:43Don't try and hit home runs, you know, trying to go for a three ball when it doesn't go in.
00:48Go to the hoop, you know, go to the rack.
00:51Same thing here.
00:52Advance the runner by butting the ball over or something.
00:56I mean, get some run support for the pitcher so he doesn't – maybe that also, you know,
01:03has a lot to do with how that pitcher is feeling because I'm not getting any run support.
01:09I'm glad that they – the other night they were able to give Webb some support, actually,
01:14you know, for the first time this year, I believe.
01:17So that's all I wanted to bring up.
01:19All right, Jan.
01:20Thank you very much.
01:21Yeah.
01:22I mean, I could sit here –
01:24Good call.
01:24I could sit here and listen to her say, go to the rack all afternoon.
01:29I don't know if you can just isolate that, Randy.
01:31I feel like Jan was just kind of frustrated about all of it, right?
01:36Yeah.
01:37Except for the run support that Logie got the other night.
01:40That was good.
01:40It was nice for a change.
01:41Yeah, it was nice for a change.
01:42To have that.
01:43Absolutely.
01:43She's not wrong, though.
01:44No, she's not wrong.
01:45I get it.
01:46Like, I think I even said this after the first inning last night.
01:50You go out there and you got bases loaded, nobody out.
01:53And in a normal world, if you only get one run, that's not great.
01:58But when you're a Giants fan right now, you're like, well, it's better than zero,
02:02which is kind of what I thought might happen.
02:05And they did get one run.
02:06But, my gosh, I still walked out of there that first inning.
02:11I'm like, I'm not happy right now at all.
02:15And that's the thing about the Giants.
02:16It's not even – look, they're 49 and 42.
02:20So it's not so much, you know I love these conversations, process and results.
02:25Their results are pretty good.
02:28Sometimes I get frustrated with their process, though.
02:31Like, that's not – right?
02:33We got fly balls that are going – I don't know.
02:35That was kind of medium deep.
02:37I'm like, really, Matt?
02:38You're not going to send this guy?
02:40You're not going to send Ramos on a medium deep right center?
02:43But you'll send Devers when the left fielder has literally already thrown the ball
02:48into the infield?
02:49I do think he might have been out.
02:51It was a good throw.
02:52So I'm glad he didn't send him.
02:53I was just surprised that he didn't send him.
02:56And then you walk in a run, and then here comes Matos, 3-1 pitch.
03:02It's a foot high, and he swings at it.
03:04Yeah.
03:05And I'm like, now I'm pissed.
03:07That's right.
03:07That's it.
03:08And, I mean, the result was you got a run, but you have a pitcher who is struggling,
03:13and you're swinging at balls out of the strike zone.
03:15And I know that he's probably eager to make an impact because he's fresh back from Sacramento,
03:20and so you want to do some loud damage.
03:22But at some point, yeah, the process and the results, the process is 3-1, pitcher struggling,
03:29single hit by pitch, single, and a walk for the five first batters.
03:33So, I don't know, get comfortable in a 3-2 count.
03:37Make him throw you a strike.
03:38Another one.
03:39And then maybe think about chasing something or being aggressive.
03:43But he was all over the place.
03:44Right.
03:45The more I've watched modern baseball, the more I've decided that for young hitters coming
03:52into the league, the number one thing they need to do is command the strike zone.
03:59That's it.
03:59If I were talking to Bryce Eldridge right now, I'd be like, don't worry about the ball flying
04:04off the bat.
04:05Don't worry about your power.
04:06Your power is already in there.
04:08You want to get to the bigs?
04:09Control the strike zone, especially at your size and presence.
04:13At a certain point, you've got to figure if he develops, they're not going to want to
04:18be throwing balls down the middle.
04:19They're going to want to pick around the edges.
04:21Well, like my favorite thing about Elliott Ramos, do you know why Ramos works now?
04:26This bat flip that he does when he walks, I love it.
04:30I couldn't love it more because it shows that he has worked himself to being excited by the
04:38idea of simply taking a walk because that's what he couldn't do.
04:41Same thing.
04:42Why was Casey Schmidt better the last three weeks?
04:45Because he wasn't swinging at everything.
04:47Matos, you're next.
04:49You've got to control the strike zone.
04:51And that was a mistake in the first inning last night that I think against a better team
04:56they end up paying for.
04:58Possibly, yeah.
04:58And if you want to have an offense that really can be dynamic, then in those spots where you're
05:04facing a pitcher who is absolutely struggling straight out of the gate, you've got to be
05:08able to put up a crooked number in that spot because, you know, bases loaded, nobody out.
05:13Like you said, that right there, you should be licking your chops and thinking about, can
05:17we get three or four out of this?
05:19And, you know, you settle for one and it becomes uncomfortable, especially when your pitcher
05:24goes out there and he's equally shaky with the command.
05:28It's interesting that I just mentioned Casey Schmidt's name.
05:30We've got a development.
05:32Yeah.
05:32Casey Schmidt has returned from his rehab and has been reinstated to the ball club.
05:38Infected immediately.
05:40Tyler Fitzgerald, thank you for your home run.
05:42Gone.
05:43Yeah.
05:44Back down to Sacramento.
05:45So he basically doesn't get on the bus after yesterday's game or does he drive all the way
05:50here and do they give him the Julie Van Loo treatment where she had to fly all the way
05:55back from Europe only for the Valkyries to then cut her?
06:00I wonder what they did.
06:01And I, like, where are the Rivercats right now?
06:04True.
06:05Yeah.
06:05You know what I mean?
06:06Where are the Rivercats?
06:06They were in Reno yesterday.
06:08Yeah, but where are they today?
06:09I'll check.
06:09Yeah, because the A's might be leaving after last night.
06:12I don't know.
06:13I don't know what they did with this.
06:14It just was dawning on me because he got sent to Sacramento and he just was in Sacramento
06:18playing against the Athletics?
06:19I wonder if that was a weird, if that's a weird thing.
06:23This experience over the weekend was a weird thing for any of the young Giants who, like,
06:27just played there.
06:28Right.
06:28Like Luis Matos, for example.
06:30Matos.
06:30Sure.
06:30Even Ramos.
06:32Like, was it weird to be in that building?
06:34Did it almost give you PTSD?
06:35Did it make you feel like you had been sent down?
06:38Even Birdsong.
06:39Birdsong.
06:39Rivercats off today in Salt Lake beginning tomorrow.
06:42Okay.
06:42So Tyler's going somewhere.
06:44Yeah.
06:44And he's flying to Salt Lake, so he probably came back with the team last night.
06:48Yeah.
06:48And also weird for those very players to be in the visitor clubhouse.
06:53You know, you're used to being in the home clubhouse and now you're on the other side
06:56of the diamond and all the rest of it.
06:58And I also think about, like, if you're Devers or Adamus and you're making nine figures and
07:05here you are playing in a AAA park against a AAA organization, that, to me, would be more
07:12strange than a Rivercat going back and playing on their old field.
07:16I don't know how you felt.
07:17I really got struck when they did the, like, okay, we're about to start the game and they
07:22did the big sort of like, you know, the wide shot, the wide shot, the drone shot above
07:29the stadium.
07:30And it's like, here we are.
07:32And I'm like, oh my God.
07:34Oh yeah.
07:35I mean, I've been there.
07:36So it's not like a, I wasn't shocked by it, but it just, there was a moment where it just
07:43landed with me how small this major league game that's about to be played is.
07:50I, I don't feel bad for the A's who signed there.
07:54You know what I mean?
07:55They like Severino took the check.
07:58I think that's really awful that he's complained about it so much.
08:02You signed there, you took the check, you knew what you were getting into and you have
08:07no idea where you're playing next year or the year after that or the year after that.
08:11But I do feel bad.
08:13I feel bad for the, you know, the Brent Rookers of the world.
08:16Like I feel bad for the players who get drafted there and then they realize their big league
08:21dreams and that's where they arrive.
08:23Yeah.
08:24That stinks.
08:25Totally.
08:25It really stinks.
08:26Your big league dreams have been realized and you're playing in a minor league park.
08:30Welcome to the bigs.
08:31The clubhouse is out there in that portable behind left field.
08:35My good Lord.
08:37What, what, how did this happen?
08:41How on earth did they let him do this?
08:44That's my question.
08:46I'm way past the fact that he's awful and, and just a horrible, the worst owner in sports
08:53by far that like someone's got to be, but how did baseball let him do this?
09:01That's what I want to know.
09:02That's what I don't get.
09:04Sometimes I wonder why leagues let owners act like, oh, well, it's their team.
09:11No, no, no.
09:12This is their league and they are one of the franchises within the league.
09:17This is their league.
09:18You're letting that team represent your league.
09:21Right.
09:22How do you do that?
09:23It's money.
09:24They don't, they don't have any real vested interest in, I guess, the, uh, the history
09:30of the game or the ethos of the game.
09:32Certainly not of the fans themselves.
09:34If they cared about the fans of the formerly Oakland athletics, then they never would have
09:39let it get to this.
09:40They would have, you know, had them stay.
09:42They would have figured out a way to keep them in a place where they've been for more
09:45than 50 years.
09:46But baseball only cares about the money.
09:49And so, you know, Fisher says, I'm going to Vegas baseball right on.
09:53And that's going to mean more money for us eventually.
09:56And in the meantime, yeah, go wherever you need to play.
09:58Just make sure that there's a home plate, three bases and, uh, yeah, we'll make it work
10:04whenever we can.
10:05I, I, I mean, you make it sound like the Vegas thing is just definitely going to work.
10:13Oh, I don't even know if it's going to happen.
10:14Exactly, exactly.
10:16So like, again, I, I circle back to the, I, I, I accept your answer, but I, I think it's
10:22a poor one from their perspective.
10:24Right.
10:25Like, I just don't, I don't know how you let something like this happen.
10:28But anyway, we, uh, for Verlander, he does, uh, add another stadium to his list.
10:34And I was just looking at it.
10:36He's now, uh, that's number 36 for Justin Verlander, 36 different ballpark in which he
10:42has pitched.
10:43So like, what are the, um, cause obviously that's more than the number of teams.
10:47Correct.
10:48What are the other stadiums where he's pitched like the Coliseum that no longer exists?
10:53Uh, there's one in Mexico where he pitched.
10:56Oh, okay.
10:56Mexico.
10:57S Monterey.
10:58Uh, I'm looking through and he's pitched in both Yankee stadiums, number two and number
11:04three.
11:04Okay.
11:04So that counts for a double.
11:06Uh, the trop.
11:07Yep.
11:08That hurts.
11:09That hurts my heart.
11:10When you say the trop, I know you mean where the Rays used to play hurts my heart because
11:14it's also the site where the A's broke ground and it was pretty much the only place left
11:20where you could play $5 craps.
11:21Yep.
11:22And now it's gone.
11:23Yeah.
11:24Sorry.
11:24That's another reason I hate John Fisher.
11:26Uh, he, two Atlantas, Turner Field and Truist Park.
11:30Oh, okay.
11:31So he's got some double Atlanta in there.
11:33And, uh, yeah, I think that's about it.
11:36At the very bottom of the list, it's A-T-H dash Sutter Health Park.
11:41So, there you have it.
11:43By the way, speaking of teams that play in Sutter Health Park, did you see what the River
11:47Cats did yesterday in their game in Reno?
11:49They won 15 to 13 in 11 innings.
11:53Yep.
11:53They scored eight runs in the 11th.
11:56The Aces responded with six.
11:58And Marco Luciano led the way with two home runs and seven RBIs.
12:01I think he won player of the week for the league.
12:05I think he did.
12:06Yeah, he's tearing the cover off the ball.
12:08But have you noticed everybody does in that league?
12:11There's a little, there's a lot of action in that league offensively.
12:15Um, anyway.
12:17Especially, uh, this time of year when the weather and, you know, the altitude and the
12:21heat and all the rest of it.
12:23But he's hitting 229 so far this year.
12:25No, no, he's not having a great year.
12:27He just had a good week.
12:28Yeah, he just had a good week.
12:30Marco Luciano.
12:31Marco Luciano.
12:32That's right.
12:33Anyway.
12:34We were also, we were going to get into Devers a little bit.
12:37Um, because there is, I don't know, I guess some growing discomfort because it just doesn't
12:45look the way that you sort of want it to look.
12:48I don't know.
12:49I've got a bunch of thoughts on this and I hope that it doesn't come across as excuses,
12:53but like it's baseball.
12:55I mean, Juan Soto looked awful right when he changed teams.
13:00Um, Willie Adamas is now suddenly hitting better.
13:03That's probably partially because Devers is here.
13:05Devers, after getting into an argument with the Red Sox in spring training, he looked terrible
13:10for 25 games as a Red Sox.
13:13And then hit so well that his season OPS was north of 900 by the time the Giants acquired
13:20him.
13:20And now he's, you know, it's down a little bit.
13:23I mean, it's not like horrible.
13:26It's just not great.
13:27It's not sparkly, but changing positions, changing leads, changing teams.
13:33I mean, all of it just, um, and he's hurt at least partially.
13:38I know you don't like that when he's in the lineup, he's not hurt, but he's, you know,
13:42like, I think there's some stuff going on in the body.
13:44That's not perfect.
13:45I don't know.
13:46I got a lot of patience for the Devers thing because for me, the Devers thing isn't even
13:50about Devers numbers yet.
13:52It's just about Devers being on the team.
13:54And he's here and he will be for a long time.
13:57So I, I always try to be a little bit more patient than that when it comes to a baseball
14:01player in particular, because baseball can be so fickle and Adamas was not so bad, but
14:08he was struggling.
14:08He was bad.
14:09And then he's currently in the midst of a seven game hitting streak during which time
14:14he's driven in nine.
14:15So just like that.
14:16And his average is up about 20 points.
14:18So just like that, you can get hot.
14:20And all of a sudden now your numbers look a little bit more like you would expect them
14:25to look.
14:25And conversely, you can have a terrible two week stretch and that can completely tank your
14:31numbers.
14:31Um, I think Grandy's got a, uh, you got a lineup over there.
14:34We do have a lineup.
14:35Is Casey at the bat playing second base?
14:37Casey's playing second and he's batting sixth.
14:39Uh, Ramos is leading off in left, then Devers, then Adamas, then Chapman, Flores, Schmidt, and
14:45then Jung-Hoo Lee, Matos, and Bailey rounded out going against a lefty for the Phillies,
14:50Christopher Sanchez.
14:51Okay.
14:51So first of all, lefty's throwing in their Oracle Park.
14:54That means the Giants will score either one or no runs tonight.
14:56Okay.
14:57But the lineup that you're looking at, I would argue tonight's the night.
15:03This is the lineup that they are hoping to use.
15:07Right?
15:07Yaz is out, Matos is in.
15:09That's the one difference.
15:09Okay.
15:10Yeah.
15:10Which there might be some of that.
15:12There might be some of that.
15:13That might be a little platoony if Matos can, can be consistent.
15:17But my point being the infield, I know Devers isn't playing first yet.
15:21He's going to DH.
15:22Flores will play first.
15:23They'll flip that at some point.
15:24But as far as the bats around the infield, this is the group.
15:29This is what we've been waiting for.
15:31That's right.
15:31Schmidt takes second.
15:32Chapman takes third.
15:33Okay.
15:33Let's play.
15:34And we're Schmidt in the lineup again.
15:36Six.
15:36He's in six.
15:37Okay.
15:37Yeah.
15:37And then Jung-Hoo.
15:38Jung-Hoo Lee's behind him.
15:39All right.
15:40Yeah.
15:40Yeah.
15:40I mean, you face a righty, it'll be Yaz.
15:42In the meantime, for Matos, a chance to go out there and maybe do some damage.
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