00:00This is Tim Wasberg, I'm here in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia for the Red
00:29Sea International Film Festival, now relocated into the historic part of the city, Abbala.
00:36I mean, I'm walking the line in my whole life, and I don't know why I'm doing that with all
00:46my characters in my movies, because they're controversial, they're provocative, and they're
00:51not easy.
00:52From right wing to left wing, people, they will have problems with my stuff, and that's
00:58good.
00:59I never wanted to, I mean, I did, but you're never outside the room in the film, you're
01:05always inside, so I wanted to build the setting and the camera like that, that you're like,
01:10and also it gets wider, the camera lens as well, so you see the room and the, like, keeping
01:16you inside, and you feel it also, and it was very important for me to show this, like, to
01:21make the audience feel the claustrophobia.
01:24Yeah.
01:25But literally, does it make you a better actor doing this movie?
01:28I think it does.
01:29Okay.
01:30I think it does.
01:31Yeah.
01:32Because it got me, like, really into someone who I'm not.
01:37Like, it's the opposite of me, the opposite of how I act in real life, and for me, in the
01:42first experience, it's like, I think it's really good that I did this role, because if
01:49I acted in anything else that's similar to my personality, it would not, like, let me
01:57gain this experience and everything I learned from this movie.
02:02I have a great job offer for the camera.
02:04Yeah, I'll go to the other one and train a little bit.
02:06Where?
02:07She does.
02:08We finally meet.
02:09Yeah.
02:10How's it going?
02:11Good.
02:12Welcome to our home.
02:13We're going to go and meet my sisters.
02:14So maybe she got her arms first, and then we just start with big circles of the shoulders
02:19to the back.
02:20It's a very different story, the second one, because I wanted to make a different
02:28one, because everybody thinks, oh, no, Osana was successful.
02:31Now she has to do Osana, not just better.
02:33And I was thinking, I'm doing something else.
02:36Did you feel, after the first one, expectation?
02:39Yes.
02:40It was really tough.
02:41I had so much pressure.
02:44Not while filmmaking, after finishing the movie, I had this kind of pressure what people
02:50think of me.
02:51And it still is, and it's hard.
02:54Yes, that's true.
02:55So it was easier to get it made, but I was worried about other stuff.
03:00To be honest, I had the character for Sarah, like I had Florentina Holzinger before.
03:07Because you knew her as well.
03:09I knew her, and she was not an MMA fighter.
03:12She's a performance artist who did martial arts in her past.
03:16So when I wrote the story, it was the first in my mind that, oh, I have to cast her.
03:21Yeah, I don't know.
03:22I wanted to make, as you said, it's about violence.
03:26And violence you accept, you want to run away from, you want even to have.
03:33It's a weird thing.
03:35The movie is about violence, yes.
03:37How?
03:38What are you doing?
03:42Everyone here knows about this family.
03:45They are very, very famous for what?
03:47They are kind of bad.
03:49Fuck me.
03:51No, no.
03:52Why are you up with girls?
03:54Yeah, I mean...
03:55Don't be so close.
03:56There are a lot of things I want to explain to you.
04:00In Europe, they, like, see Sarah and her, like, not being able to help and stuff.
04:08And they feel, like, weird, I guess.
04:13And it's like, you know the people in Europe, they're, like, posting stuff on Instagram, how awful every war is and things like this.
04:24Yeah.
04:25And I guess when they see the movie, it's like an answer to their trying to help, but no.
04:32So I know what I want, but I let also a lot of freedom with the improvisation.
04:37Okay.
04:38So...
04:39In terms of what?
04:40In terms of what kind of improvisation?
04:42So when I do a scene, everybody knows what to do.
04:46Like, I give everyone their instructions and their goals for the scene.
04:50Even in the rave part.
04:52Oh, yeah.
04:53They show you, like...
04:55I think that's very smart.
04:57That's very smart from the director, Cordwyn, that it kept shooting in rooms.
05:04And then the flow parts come in, Sarah, and she's in a rave or a club underground.
05:13And all people are coming, like, it's the same.
05:16Yeah.
05:17It's the same.
05:18She's trapped.
05:19Yeah.
05:20So I think that's very smart.
05:23Very different.
05:24Yeah.
05:25Very different than any movie I watched here.
05:28I think they're working very hard.
05:30Okay.
05:31I think the future is here.
05:32Okay.
05:33Yeah.
05:34Wow.
05:35Like, I see Saudi, like, in five, ten years doing the best movies.
05:38Cool.
05:39Yeah.
05:40Because they're doing very well.
05:42Yeah.
05:43Like, they're putting all the effort to grow some young directors and actors.
05:51It's my sisters.
05:52They're playing with me.
05:53You know?
05:54It's all good.
05:55It's all good.
05:56It's all good.
05:57It's all good.
05:58It's all good.
05:59For me, it's like one percentage of the popularity in the Middle East.
06:16And this story can happen everywhere.
06:18Everywhere.
06:19Yeah.
06:20Not the Middle East.
06:21This is not about the Middle East.
06:22This is not about Jordan.
06:23This is not about any family in this world.
06:26It's not specific.
06:27It's something anyone could go through.
06:30Any family could go through.
06:33Anyone can get abused.
06:36People who you know, maybe.
06:40So, I saw it's a story that tells about, like, a small part in the world that doesn't
06:49get that much attention because directors are scared.
06:55She's not scared.
06:56Yeah.
06:57Corden is not scared.
06:58No.
06:59Corden is not scared at all.
07:00I was scared at first to act in a movie like that, especially in the Middle East.
07:06But with all, like, the… I know people will get it.
07:11We'll get that.
07:12It's not about anything.
07:13It's about the story.
07:14It's about telling a story about some girls.
07:18It could be boys.
07:19Yeah.
07:20It could be anything.
07:21Yeah.
07:22A woman, a man, everyone.
07:26Anyone could go through this.
07:27Ah, hey!
07:28Boo!
07:29What is it?
07:30No!
07:32Vivian.
07:34Like I said so.
07:36I heard…
07:37Didn'tszych?
07:38Isis?
07:39Jolene.
07:40Stupid.
07:41We'll see you next time.
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