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David Dwork joins to talk Panthers! Who worried David the most to resign? We discuss the Culture that has allowed the Panthers to operate at a different level financially. Will there be any casualties? Where do things stand with Matthew Tkachuk and Evan Rodrigues? We dive more into the term "Culture" as it has developed into a Swagger. The Hockey Hornet updates us on the new rules of the CBA and how teams can finesse the Cap. What will the Panthers do with Sergei Bobrovsky as his contract comes to a close?
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00:00and toyotofhollywood.com they will find the hockey hornet himself david dwark from the hockey news
00:06and the hockey show you guys can hear his show with roy bellamy on metal arc media and his
00:11coverage at the hockey news what's up handsome good morning how are you guys it's good to see
00:18you have you have you sobered up from the celebration uh i'm like the incredible hulk
00:23i'm always not sober so i'm like i'm just always ready to go i'm always at that level
00:29i can maintain but i'm good so this bill zito's a wizard we'll sing his praises in a second
00:35out of the three main says and i was no sec just also resigned but of the three studs that just
00:42stayed was there one you were most nervous about like was there one out of all three where you're
00:47like i don't know like is if they really gonna be able to keep that guy between bennett ekblad and
00:53marshawn probably aaron ekblad just because it seemed like the value that he would have
00:59commanded on the open market far exceeded what florida was probably willing or able to give him
01:06considering florida has this plan of keeping you know the big picture together and not overpaying
01:12for anybody even guys that rightly deserve to be paid uh you know a handsome salary and a lot of those
01:18guys have left to go to other teams uh but i mean aaron ekblad made it clear that he wanted to be
01:22in for i mean everybody did but you know ekblad's been saying for a while that he wanted to be here
01:26so it was just going to be a matter of how much was he willing to take on the chin and uh i mean look
01:31the guy just signed what is going to be you know the last big deal of his career and he took a pay cut
01:36to do it at age 30 so that right there tells you everything you need to know about aaron ekblad and
01:40this team that the that the panthers and bill zito have put together one of the things that's
01:44amazing to me is is this is one of the situations where what you have built is so impressive
01:53that these guys want to be a part of it and and a lot of them could have made like i mean march and
02:02could have made more money right ekblad could have made a boatload of money and they're like you know
02:08what i like florida and i like the sun and i like you know being down here and and so i think not
02:16only the area but what they've built in the team and the organization have made it appealing to be
02:24here the miami heat used to have that to where you have guys signing veteran um mid-level exceptions
02:31to come here when they could have got two or three year deals and it's awesome it's unbelievable to see
02:37not only but these guys are happy they enjoy each other like that man that's hard to keep going for
02:44this long yeah you reminded me of this like graphic i saw on i think it was instagram yesterday showing
02:50like the career earnings trajectory of lebron james and how it was just going like this like this and
02:55then all of a sudden in the middle there was like a little area where it just stayed the same
02:59right the heat years and and for sure guys saw what was happening they saw guys taking less money
03:05they saw the winning the culture and they're like i want to be a part of that that is a generational
03:09rarity and we saw with the heat and now we're seeing it with the panthers and i think the main
03:16difference is just with the heat it was like the you know the superstars the biggest names in the game
03:20coming together and with the panthers uh not that they don't have like star players who are amazing
03:25it's just hockey's you know so many more hockey players than there are basketball players i think
03:29it's like you said that off the top leroy it's a testament to bill zito and being able to sell all
03:35these guys on if you come here and you put your head down and you put in the work and you do what's
03:40asked of you you will have the best time of your life you will do something that is completely rare
03:45that athletes no matter what sport want to be a part of something like this and it's just unreal and
03:51it's like the more that we continue down this timeline now we're in like year five of bill zito
03:57we're in year three of going to the final every year back-to-back stanley cups like it's just
04:02blowing me away and and sadly and i'll kind of end with this personal thought it's making me realize
04:07more and more how far away the dolphins are from anything yeah you know what part of it is
04:15the dolphins have not been able to get the momentum that the panthers have have gotten right
04:27that means that you know when bill zito first got here right it the team has always been on a
04:36a certain trajectory with every decision kind of keeping it going right it's hard to do that
04:45it's hard to do that in any sport and with the dolphins you might have like where it's been three or
04:55four years for the panthers we can't even get a month out of the dolphins because somebody gets
05:01hurt or something goes sideways or a player that gets hurt or something like that right so you haven't
05:08been able to get the traction to even see same thing with the heat like the heat trying to build
05:15something to get back to where they were and every time you think you have your footing somebody's out
05:21for five weeks and the thing about the panthers is because the way hockey is if you are taken that
05:29far off your path with one injury then you haven't you didn't build it right and that's the thing that
05:36bill zito has done from the first line to the fourth line i mean have you ever talked about a fourth and
05:42third line more than you have with the panthers right everybody even with edmonton all they talk
05:48about is putting their two stars together and putting the first and second line together and
05:54hopefully that'll create more power the panthers don't have to do that because one through four
06:00it's pretty amazing everybody's contributed so like yeah man i get why everybody's so frustrated with
06:08the dolphins but we it's blame the panthers man because they do it so they've done it so well
06:15every move has worked could chuck has been the last two years at points in time you're very hockey
06:23excited right now you're not even you're not even like let let the hockey hornet speak on it go
06:28ahead no let him cook let leroy cook i'm enjoying this oh um it just goes back to bill zito man
06:35i like i bought fireworks yesterday i'm a little over exuberant shathan says has he taken a breath in
06:42the last seven minutes it's just dude like like i mean like being a part of something like this is
06:50it's very exciting it's very exciting especially so yesterday like i see marner ends up going to vegas
06:58for 12 a year and so like did anybody in the east like i know i guess free agency starts officially
07:05in like an hour but like is looking at the landscape is anybody going to even stack with these guys in
07:12this conference right now no when i see deals like that like guys getting 10 11 12 million like i just
07:20like it feels like the panthers are just operating on a completely different level than the rest of the
07:26league like they are the way that zito has been able to get so many guys sold on those team-friendly
07:30deals and then you see a guy like marner getting 12 million or or um evan bouchard and edmondson getting
07:37over 10 million and then you've got aaron ekblad who's taking 6 million uh it's just they're they're
07:45on completely different levels right now and it's just kind of a testament to to what leroy was just
07:49you know so eloquently explaining about the panthers and it's just that they're incredibly unique
07:54uh it's it's crazy to see how it's all come together and i just think kind of going back to
08:00what you were what leroy was just saying before about the culture like it all started with zito
08:04the first moves he made were changing the culture in the locker room and then building from there out
08:09and i think you know not to you know not to crap on the dolphins too much but i think that's the big
08:13problem with is that the culture from the inside just hasn't been strong and they've just tried to
08:18make things you know make these individual moves whereas with the panthers every move is kind of
08:23connected they're making one move with the next move in mind they're bringing in guys that fit
08:27specific roles not just going after the best players or the biggest names and i mean the results speak
08:32for themselves right so let me ask you this though and i've always been curious to this because i can't
08:38really answer it does winning build culture or does culture build winning culture builds winning
08:46i think you need to there's so many people talk about culture and they throw that word around
08:54and and and i don't know if when they talk about culture if that's entirely what they mean
09:04right and and so i always wonder like you never say a losing team has culture
09:10right nobody who struggles to say oh we got good culture we just need to build no it's always the
09:18winning teams that have the culture so well they're not mutually exclusive right like you you can win
09:24without having a good culture and i guess you could have a good culture camaraderie without
09:29necessarily winning but nobody's going to be talking about it because it's right like markov's always been
09:33markov like the way that he acts and everybody always says like he's but he's been this guy and he's been
09:38and he's behaved the way that he has his entire career but there's a clear it and what i would say is
09:44there's a clear difference in what this team was the first year they went to the finals against vegas
09:53and where they are now so the i don't know whether it's culture or it's the attitude of how they play
10:01um how they do things with paul maurice how they talk about things that's a big thing with me
10:08right is that they have been so consistent with how they talk about discuss winning and losing or
10:16whatever that i i always wonder if that is what built the culture i think it started the foundation
10:25of the culture is what was built the first few years with the hard work and just taking what the
10:31coach says as you know testament and you know just going to work every day i i think when you get to
10:36the point they're at now where you built on that culture with experience and you've shown that if
10:42you do the work you will get those rewards i think it's gone from a culture to now almost like a swagger
10:50because you have all the components that you need to win it's all right there like you're good to go
10:58you've won back-to-back stanley cups at this point so now it's like you're taking that that hard-working
11:03mentality and you're adding to that the experience that they've gained from the last few years of
11:08we know this works we know that we are going to beat you down and there's nothing that you can do
11:13about it and so i you know i say swagger i don't mean like a you know like a cocky thing but i mean
11:18like they just know and you can yeah exactly confidence you could tell that going into a series
11:23they know that if if they do their jobs they're going to beat you and that's that's i don't know
11:28it's invaluable you can't buy that so we know they got all three coming back they still i guess
11:36gotta sign a goalie they still gotta figure out sam muskevich um is there going to be a casualty
11:43here like is there gonna be a guy who is gonna have to go out the door like you look at the the
11:48panthers landscape uh is there gonna be somebody that they do have to to deal out just to make this
11:54work for this year something there they can't be done right now like some things are going to have
12:00to be some kind of moves are going to have to be made just because like at this moment they're over
12:04the cap which you know obviously that can't happen uh there are different kind of options floating
12:10around right now uh i've heard from a couple different people that evan rodriguez may be on the
12:15trade block perhaps we'll see how the day goes he's at a three million dollar cap hit and that three
12:21million dollars would give the panthers a lot more flexibility on the bottom of their roster
12:25there's also the possibility you know we don't know what's going to happen with matthew kachuk yet
12:30he said like a week ago he's still 50 50 on whether or not he might need surgery to repair
12:34uh his torn hip abductor which he said completely came off the bone if he needs surgery he's probably
12:40starting the season on ltir which gives you temporary but quite a bit of flat cap flexibility there
12:46so i i think there are options that could happen i don't know for sure at this moment i keep checking
12:52my phone to see if anything has changed uh you know we're as you said we're about an hour away
12:56from free agency starting uh but you know big picture i i think they've done a really good job
13:01keeping keeping the band together uh but uh to answer your question tobin i they they're not done yet
13:07there there are some things that you have to change so can you explain the i don't know if you've
13:11gone into because i saw that the cba changed and people were saying like oh that ltir may
13:16like it may not be the same like are they change do you know are you like up to date on that at all
13:21like do do we know because you know obviously the panthers did some chicanery this year has been done
13:25by vegas and tampa in the past is that going away is that going away in a year how does that is that is
13:32that gonna do you have uh updates on that because if yeah i know you've been deep deep in panthers so if
13:37you haven't done cba stuff i understand no it would really suck if i was just like nope
13:41uh but no i i know i i got a little bit um when this when the new cba does kick in
13:48um the ltir that they're talking that everybody's had a problem with is when it comes to the playoffs
13:55uh so that the talk has been implementing like a playoff salary cap or to continue that going past
14:00the their end of the regular season so that teams couldn't you know do what panthers did with
14:04matthew kachuk or what happened uh with the oilers and evanders came uh nikita kucherov a couple years ago
14:10uh or what was it uh the guy in vagus was a mark stone so you know look injuries happen and it's
14:17not like it's teams are like trying to take advantage but there have been you know where at
14:21the end of the regular season oh well maybe he was healthy enough to come back but they held the guy
14:24out to to keep their cap so you know i get how some teams would get upset uh it's going to make
14:29things a little bit interesting in terms of injuries at the end of the season but uh when it comes to cba
14:34these are things that both sides negotiate the players and the team so uh if they're coming to
14:38agreements it's got to be something that the majority of we're okay with i was uh i was reading
14:43this article in uh in it was a russian reporter and so it's google translate don't look at me like
14:48that i was doing it was an interview it was really took this bob thing to the next level
14:52i saw somebody i was like i gotta see if this is a real thing so i saw somebody tweet out an interview
14:57with bob's dad and it was now i used google translate i have no idea but i saw that uh at the end
15:04they asked him about hey like what's the what's the deal with his extension like because this is
15:08the last year of bob's deal and he and the translate was this is but i over the i think that's how i read
15:13it but um what's like so do they have him play out this year or do they try and like do they lock bob
15:20in because i know the cap goes up next year but uh is that something they handle next year and and
15:25just worry bob because i don't imagine bob's gonna make a stink or anything like that no uh i think that
15:30that would depend on how anxious bob and his side are to get it done i i would imagine that the
15:38panthers side and bill zito would be you know in terms of doing their due diligence well ahead of ufa
15:42years you know they've probably touched base with anybody that's going to be a free agent next season
15:47or they will this summer at least and just kind of see where they're at get that ball rolling so i would
15:52imagine that if sergey burowski's intention is to stay in florida and finish out his career here
15:57uh you know i have heard nothing that would make me think that there's not interest on both sides
16:02to do that uh where his game is at and where the team feels his game can be uh you know but nobody
16:08works like bob nobody puts in the work uh he is defying odds by playing as well as he is into his
16:14late 30s i i asked him about this actually at the exit meetings i asked him like dude you are doing
16:19what goalies don't usually do you're playing at an elite level into your late 30s and there's just
16:24such confidence there between bob between paul maurice uh that he can keep it going obviously
16:28at age 37 he's not going to be getting 10 million contracts anymore but i think the mindset of bob
16:36and being such a team first guy which you know everything he says is about the team uh i would
16:41be surprised if they don't come to some kind of a very reasonable agreement that would allow him to
16:46continue to play as much as his body will let him and i mean look he's playing 55 ish games the last
16:51few regular seasons and riding the playoffs uh getting you know seemingly getting better as
16:55they go on uh so it's just it's like the unknown right like you don't know when that father time
17:03is going to kick in like it's going to happen eventually he's nearing 40 like look it's going
17:07to happen but is it going to happen in a year is it going to happen in four years well you know
17:12we're in uncharted territory with sergey bobrovsky that's what makes this hall of fame goaltender so good
17:16uh but i would think that they would probably maybe two three year deal something along those
17:22lines you know maybe four or five million and i'm totally just spitballing here but um but big
17:28picture like i think i'd be shocked if bob plays for another team for the rest of his career unless he
17:33does like a dominic hasha thing and tries to play till he's like 45. buddy uh thanks so much for
17:38spending some time with us we love you and uh we'll talk to you down the line thank you guys enjoy your
17:44summer have fun with the fireworks leroy be safe okay yeah i'm ready why did you look at me when
17:51i said i read an article in russian you didn't have to say it in russian yes you did and i learned
17:59that bob's mother used to used to work a crane at a power plant and i was like that's russia
18:04that's great that's russia that's russia so like in russia yeah if they were to look at you
18:13and they would tell a story of your life and they would say that's that's florida yeah probably what
18:21would it be i don't know iguana catch his farm life yeah i'm just holding an iguana and running
18:27after his wife with it i couldn't get enough of it i was like this is amazing he like swims and
18:32i don't know and the max strews song i think that combination is
18:34all right we'll talk to you later david take care
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