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00:00I'm coming at Boston. I've heard enough.
00:03You have?
00:04Yeah, yeah.
00:06This is actually good news for Rafi Devers.
00:09Rafi Devers is going to get accepted by this fan base
00:13in a way that he's never been accepted by anyone other than his parents.
00:17That's kind of what I think is about to happen.
00:19I think Boston accepted him very well until the end.
00:22Yeah, but that's kind of what I'm talking about.
00:24I'm talking about right now.
00:26And good news for him.
00:28And he spoke about this yesterday.
00:30He did not expect that kind of an ovation.
00:33He said he was nervous during his first at-bat
00:35because he didn't think that was going to happen.
00:37He didn't think 37,000 people were just going to get on their feet
00:41and start chanting his name when they never even met him before.
00:45He didn't think that was coming.
00:47But that happened.
00:48And by the way, good job, Giants fans.
00:50I love it when fan bases are tapped in,
00:53educated about the moment upon arrival at the ballpark.
00:56It's one of my favorite things.
00:57These Giants fans are usually pretty good at it.
00:59And they did it again yesterday.
01:01And so they welcomed him with open arms.
01:04And I think that's really going to happen because what,
01:07similar to watching the whole team show up at the press conference yesterday,
01:10you're going to see what feels almost like an over-welcome.
01:15Because I don't think,
01:16while I'll admit none of us have had a chance to get to know him in a good,
01:21bad, or otherwise sort of a way,
01:23he is the new acquisition.
01:27And I don't think San Francisco wants to hear Boston keep crapping on the guy.
01:31And nobody outside of Boston has.
01:34I don't even know how much that is permeating the average fan,
01:38what Boston's saying.
01:40As a Giants fan,
01:41I don't really give a crap what Boston fan or Boston media or Jonathan Papelbon
01:46or anybody really connected with Boston has to say negatively about the guy.
01:51Bottom line,
01:52as a hitter,
01:54he is terrific.
01:55And however things ended in Boston,
01:57that's how they ended in Boston.
01:58And,
01:58you know,
01:59you've had girlfriends and wives,
02:01and I have had the same.
02:02And,
02:03yeah,
02:03you know,
02:03you want to kind of know about the backstory of those relationships,
02:07but at the same time,
02:08you're in a relationship.
02:09So,
02:10like,
02:11Christy,
02:11I think,
02:12was married,
02:12and you've been married.
02:13And so,
02:14like,
02:14whatever happened,
02:15happened,
02:16you two are together now.
02:17Like,
02:17she's on your team.
02:18Right.
02:19You're on hers.
02:20And so,
02:20I don't need to hear from Supper's ex-boyfriends to call me and say,
02:25hey,
02:26you know,
02:26beware of this.
02:27You know,
02:28she did this with me.
02:29I don't care what the ex says,
02:30but I want to know the story.
02:32And I think,
02:32like,
02:33how many times have you heard this?
02:35You know,
02:35somebody will be unfaithful in a relationship,
02:38and they were to their last partner,
02:40too.
02:40And it's like,
02:41well,
02:41dummy,
02:42you should have known.
02:44That's who that person is.
02:45I think that this is relevant.
02:46I really do.
02:48Who,
02:48it's just like we did with Jimmy Butler.
02:50When people are like,
02:51oh,
02:51yeah,
02:51that's fine.
02:52I know you're 10 and 1 since he arrived,
02:54but this is going to go south.
02:56And people will warn you.
02:58It's kind of like what happened when you had Myla.
03:00People always warn you when you're about to have a baby.
03:03Right.
03:03Oh,
03:03boy.
03:04They say the stupidest thing alive.
03:06Get your sleep now.
03:07As if you're,
03:08like,
03:09able to bank this or something like that.
03:11Oh,
03:11it's okay.
03:12It's September and I'm exhausted,
03:13but I slept in March.
03:15So,
03:15I actually feel great.
03:16I got 80 hours in the bank.
03:17I mean,
03:17look,
03:17what are we doing?
03:18People say stupid stuff like that,
03:20but I think it's relevant here because this guy is a giant for eight years.
03:25And if he is,
03:26Jonathan Papelbon,
03:27a bad teammate.
03:29Cancer,
03:29he called him.
03:30If he is a cancer,
03:31if as Red Sox ownership believes,
03:34we will win more games because he's gone.
03:38I think that that's very relevant.
03:40And so I've been talking to as many people listening to as many people as possible.
03:46And that's what I noticed.
03:48What I noticed is anything negative that is said about this guy comes from one place.
03:55Boston.
03:56Boston.
03:57I've never even been inside your city.
03:59I've never been there.
04:00I'd love to go.
04:01Oh,
04:01it's so funny.
04:02I spent,
04:03let me think,
04:05three hours there,
04:06four hours there.
04:07Just four?
04:08What were you doing?
04:08I got to the airport early,
04:09Logan.
04:10I was flying home.
04:11And so I had a four hour layover.
04:12This is pre 9-11.
04:14Did you leave the airport?
04:15I took my bag and put it in a locker in the airport.
04:19We're so good with lockers.
04:20You're in your damn lockers.
04:21Do you remember when you could lock your bag up in an airport?
04:24Like,
04:25pre 9-11,
04:26you could get a locker,
04:27put your bag in there,
04:28and then you go tour the city.
04:29You could just leave the bag sitting out pre 9-11.
04:32Then you can go back and get it wherever the hell you left.
04:34I leave the airport,
04:35take the train not far away,
04:37sneak into Boston Garden,
04:39go on the parquet floor,
04:41give myself a tour,
04:42get back on the train,
04:43back to the airport,
04:44get the bag out of the locker,
04:46and fly home.
04:46Because by the way,
04:47I've decided,
04:48this is my rule,
04:50it does not count,
04:51you have not visited a city if you don't leave the airport.
04:54That's fair.
04:54Yeah.
04:54I'm with you.
04:55You've got to leave the airport.
04:56I'm with you.
04:56But you left the airport.
04:57Yeah,
04:57and I had already driven through Massachusetts to get there.
05:01But yeah,
05:01that was my Boston.
05:02But I don't really know Boston either.
05:05And I wonder about this criticism of which you speak.
05:09Like,
05:10is there any of it from 2018 or 2021?
05:14Or is there all the negativity coming out now?
05:17If it's all coming out now,
05:18then that's just people who are mad at the breakup.
05:22It's not,
05:23for me,
05:23it's not real criticism.
05:25You know what I mean?
05:26I mean,
05:27listen,
05:28you know,
05:29again,
05:30to use this as an example,
05:32we started to ask those questions of Papelbon,
05:36and he said,
05:37it's always been this way.
05:39It's always been this way.
05:41And I get it.
05:42Your response will be,
05:43well,
05:43then why didn't it come then?
05:45And I actually did.
05:46Like,
05:46when Papelbon said that,
05:48I asked him right ago,
05:49I said,
05:49why'd you sign him to this deal then?
05:51If he's such a cancer,
05:54why'd you sign him to 300-something million
05:56dollars two years ago?
05:58And his answer was,
05:59yeah,
05:59it was a mistake.
06:01Shouldn't have done it.
06:02And I'm like,
06:03I don't really necessarily accept the answer,
06:05but that's what I'm looking for.
06:07I am looking for somebody outside of Boston
06:12to actually say that this guy can at least grow
06:17into being a clubhouse problem.
06:20My perception of the San Francisco Giants era
06:25that has developed because of Buster Posey
06:29is that they are going to take the ultimate care
06:33of the clubhouse.
06:34That really,
06:36really matters to them.
06:38Buster Posey's clubhouse was a buttoned-up clubhouse.
06:43Like,
06:43this is as crazy as it got for 10 years.
06:46As crazy as it got was,
06:48Aubrey Huff had a thong,
06:51Brandon Crawford played music,
06:53and Brandon Belt wore a sailor cap.
06:57That's as crazy as it got.
06:58That's crazy.
06:59As far as we know.
07:00I'm sure there was plenty of stuff.
07:02But as far as we know,
07:04that's how it went.
07:05And the clubhouse was run
07:07by some pretty no-nonsense guys.
07:09Buster Posey,
07:10Mad Bum,
07:12right?
07:13Boach.
07:13I don't think Buster's going to bring in somebody
07:17who's going to be a malcontent.
07:19But that's what we're being told
07:21they just did,
07:23at least according to some.
07:25And so,
07:26A,
07:27I want to know as much as I can about that.
07:29But B,
07:30look,
07:32he's the Giants now.
07:33He's the Giants.
07:35You know,
07:36he's their player now.
07:37And I know this fan base,
07:39and this fan base is going to wrap their arms around him
07:41and defend him in ways that they wouldn't even think they had to
07:45because of what we're listening to come out of Boston, Massachusetts.
07:50The same place that wore the F.U. Draymond shirts.
07:55The same place.
07:57The same place.
07:58The same city that has all of your,
08:00the most annoying fans in the history of the world
08:04with the New England Patriots.
08:06It's the same place.
08:08And so now here we go again.
08:10And I say that as someone who's never even been there before.
08:13Yeah,
08:13and just,
08:13you know,
08:14scanning some of the commentary from Boston,
08:17it's not 100% anti-Devers.
08:19Even Pedro Martinez came out and said,
08:21the idea of him being a bad teammate is nonsense.
08:25You're lying.
08:26And they have a website called overthemonsta.com,
08:29which is like a fan site.
08:31And there's a lot of articles and comments there
08:35that were defending Devers going back to May of this year
08:37when Devers came out and said,
08:39changing positions is hard,
08:41which is a little,
08:42a little disingenuous because,
08:45why do you think?
08:46Because,
08:46yeah,
08:46it's hard,
08:47but what did he do immediately upon landing here?
08:49He started working on changing positions.
08:52But that's because of the way they approached him about it.
08:54But the idea of it being hard,
08:56yes,
08:57it's hard,
08:57but you can work at it and make it easier.
09:00And he didn't have the same level of willingness to do it in Boston.
09:04Right,
09:04because he did not trust the people who were asking him to do it.
09:07I get it.
09:07I understand it.
09:08He felt spurned by those people.
09:09I understand.
09:09You're under contract for eight more years.
09:12And so maybe they didn't go about approaching him the right way.
09:15And that seems to be the truth.
09:17But I do think that part of it was his reluctance
09:21and his outright refusal to do something
09:25that probably would have helped the ball club.
09:26I mean,
09:26if your wife asked you to take your shirt off,
09:28if you're going to do it,
09:29if I do,
09:29you won't.
09:30Um,
09:31I might.
09:31I mean,
09:32what's in it for me?
09:33Take your shirt off.
09:34I mean,
09:34if you're going to pay me 31 million a year,
09:36I'm taking my shirt off.
09:37I'm not paying you anything.
09:38Then I'm not taking my shirt off.
09:39She isn't either.
09:40But he's making 31 million.
09:41It doesn't matter.
09:42It actually does matter.
09:43It doesn't.
09:44Because he's the,
09:45he's the employee.
09:46And as the employee,
09:47there's a certain amount of,
09:48you know,
09:49do it for the company.
09:51See,
09:51I disagree with that,
09:52especially in pro sport.
09:53If the boss asks you to switch jobs with Grandy and,
09:57you know,
09:58you're going to do the board.
09:59Oh,
09:59this is fine.
10:00Randy's going to come in and host.
10:01And you probably don't know how to run the board.
10:03Um,
10:04I don't,
10:04I don't.
10:05I've run the board in the past,
10:07but we should try this.
10:07That'd be fine.
10:08The board I ran was not that board.
10:10Come in and talk to Debs for a little while.
10:11I'll go sit in there and eat your turkey sandwich.
10:14I don't have a turkey sandwich today.
10:15What do you mean you don't have a turkey sandwich today?
10:17But you had lunch catered.
10:18Yeah.
10:18This is the first day that you've ever not brought a turkey sandwich.
10:20Because we had lunch catered.
10:22Man,
10:22that's some trust.
10:24You didn't even know what the hell was being served.
10:25Oh,
10:26I'll eat anything.
10:26I know.
10:27So a lot.
10:27It was the pre Juneteenth banquet here.
10:29Absolutely.
10:29At Odyssey,
10:30San Francisco.
10:31Like,
10:31I,
10:31I,
10:32I get what you're saying.
10:33Right.
10:33And I don't,
10:34I know sort of how to run the board,
10:35but not really how to run the board.
10:37And changing positions is hard.
10:38I've also got a contract that says I don't have to do that.
10:41That's not what my contract asked me to do.
10:43I don't have to look at the language,
10:44but.
10:45Oh,
10:45no,
10:45I,
10:46it said I will not run the board.
10:47No,
10:48but it says what my duties are,
10:50and it is not running the board.
10:51Yeah.
10:51Interesting.
10:52Yeah.
10:52That's not so like,
10:53I would have right of refusal there.
10:55And by the way,
10:56even if I didn't have right of refusal there,
10:58you damn well better believe I'd be like,
10:59what are you talking about?
11:00Right.
11:01Especially if by the way,
11:03remember now,
11:04if we want to go with your comp,
11:05it's not the boss asked me to go do Grandy's job and have him come in here.
11:10It's the boss told Grandy hired Grandy to come host the show without asking me,
11:17without even telling me he just did it.
11:20And then you showed up one day and went,
11:23Oh,
11:23by the way,
11:24yeah,
11:25that guy,
11:26he's already there and we're going to need you to go in here.
11:30Yeah.
11:30And the contracts are already signed.
11:32Sorry.
11:33And you're telling me that I wouldn't be livid.
11:36You're telling me I wouldn't walk out of here and go home.
11:39I would walk out of here and go home.
11:41Well,
11:41I mean,
11:42you're allowed to do that.
11:43And then they're allowed to put you on the non-competitive list and you don't get paid and all the rest of the things that they could do.
11:50And that's what Jim Bowden was telling the guys yesterday.
11:53Or did we have Jim Bowden on?
11:54I can't remember how that went,
11:55but he was saying that he actually had to,
11:57he had to play that hard line.
12:00And so,
12:01yeah,
12:01things can happen.
12:02I just,
12:03I look at what Boston did,
12:05the way they approached it.
12:06Absolutely.
12:07They blew it.
12:08Absurd.
12:08But I think if I'm a Boston fan and I look at Devers coming out here and he's taking grounders at first,
12:14I'd be a little bit bothered by that.
12:15Would you?
12:16Yeah.
12:16I would be too at my team,
12:18not at Rafi.
12:19The Red Sox blew this.
12:21And actually,
12:21I think the way Rafi acted yesterday proves it.
12:24He showed you what he's willing to do.
12:26If you just approach him like a human being,
12:29if you approach him like the star that he is,
12:32like that's the other thing.
12:33We go,
12:33oh,
12:34the guy's got an ego.
12:35Yeah.
12:35Yep.
12:36He's one of the best 10 hitters on the planet.
12:39So,
12:39of course,
12:39he's going to have an ego.
12:41Top musician in the world.
12:43Top hitter in the world.
12:44Top whatever.
12:46Tech person in the world.
12:47You think Benioff doesn't have an ego?
12:49Benioff's got an ego.
12:50I promise you.
12:52Because that's how this works.
12:53You don't approach those people this way.
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