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‘You’re either feckless or complicit!’ Hegseth refuses to say if Laura Loomer was consulted on General Haugh firing
The Independent
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6/18/2025
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I'm going to move on to General Hawke.
00:03
This is not an inexplicable dismissal of General Hawke.
00:06
He serves as both director of the National Security Agency,
00:09
commander of U.S. Cybercom.
00:11
It's deeply concerning, raises significant questions
00:13
about the decision-making process, its potential consequences.
00:18
Public reports indicate that the removal of General Hawke,
00:22
who has served his country proudly,
00:24
has been influenced by social media influencer.
00:28
An influencer, a personality on social media, Laura Loomer,
00:32
spreads conspiracy theories.
00:33
She's been denounced even by Republicans.
00:35
And the idea is that any leaders within our agency
00:37
is responsible for our nation's security.
00:40
Somebody would be dismissed based on the advice
00:43
of a social media influencer.
00:45
It's alarming to say the least.
00:47
It's surely not how we should be running our military.
00:49
So were you consulted regarding General Hawke's dismissal, yes or no?
00:54
Well, Senator, I would not advise believing everything you read in the media.
01:00
Were you consulted?
01:01
And I'm consulted on every single decision.
01:02
Okay, so that's alarming.
01:03
I'm the decision-maker for the department,
01:04
and we all serve at the pleasure of the president,
01:06
and we have the prerogative to make those decisions for the best for the country,
01:09
and we did that.
01:10
What was your recommendation?
01:11
Did you personally approve Mr. Hawke's dismissal, yes or no?
01:13
Anyone coming or going at the Defense Department, especially at that level,
01:18
would ultimately be a decision made by me, and I stand behind that.
01:21
So that's a yes.
01:22
Did you personally relieve him?
01:24
Excuse me?
01:25
Did you personally relieve him, yes or no?
01:26
Anyone at that level who is relieved would be relieved by the Secretary of Defense.
01:31
Was there a specific justification for General Hawke's dismissal?
01:36
Ma'am, we all serve at the pleasure of the president,
01:48
and the president deserves the type of commanders and advisers that he thinks will best equip him to accomplish the mission.
01:54
Did you discuss General Hawke's dismissal with Laura Loomer prior to his removal?
01:59
I don't discuss who I talk about anything with, but ultimately this is my decision,
02:03
and he serves at the pleasure of the president, and that's why he's no longer there.
02:06
So do you believe it's appropriate for any social media personality to influence personnel decisions in your department, yes or no?
02:17
I believe your time is up, Senator.
02:19
Oh, it is not up to you to tell me when my time is up.
02:22
Well, the time of the senator—
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And I am going to say, Mr. Secretary, you're either feckless or complicit.
02:27
You're not in control of your department.
02:29
Yours is unserious.
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It is shocking.
02:31
You're not combating anti-Semitism within your ranks.
02:34
It's a dangerous and pivotal time in our nation's history.
02:37
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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I yield back.
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And I don't appreciate the smirk, sir.
02:41
You are the Secretary of Defense.
02:43
The time of the gentlelady has expired.
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