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The Israel-Iran conflict has entered its fourth day with continued missile strikes on both sides. Over 220 lives have been lost in Iran and more than 20 in Israel. Iranian missiles have overwhelmed Israel's Iron Dome defense system, hitting civilian areas in Tel Aviv and Haifa. Israel claims to have destroyed a third of Iran's missile launch capabilities. The G7 summit in Calgary, Canada is set to address pressing global issues including the Israel-Iran conflict, Russia-Ukraine war, and economic challenges. Prime Minister Narendra Modi's participation reflects India's growing importance on the world stage. The summit also marks a potential reset in India-Canada relations after recent diplomatic tensions. Meanwhile, Israel has intensified operations against Iran, bombing the national broadcaster during a live broadcast. US President Donald Trump has not signed the G7 statement on de-escalation.
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00:00Hello and welcome to an India Today special broadcast that comes to you from Calgary, Canada.
00:05I'm Gaurav Saban, Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
00:08After receiving the highest civilian award of Cyprus is now en route Calgary for the G7 summit.
00:15So the seven most powerful economies of the world, the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, France, UK,
00:22all these countries, they will be meeting to discuss the road ahead in these very, very uncertain times.
00:31India is seen as one of the major drivers of global growth.
00:36That's something that we will talk about on India First at 8.30 tonight.
00:41But before that, we will talk about the situation between Israel and Iran that's escalating on the fourth day.
00:48Heavy bombing, heavy missile strikes continued on both sides.
00:53More than 200 lives lost in Iran, more than 20 in Israel.
00:58And just one third of Iran's missile strength has been taken down.
01:04This war is now threatening to enter a very dangerous phase.
01:11Day four of Israel-Iran war.
01:14Missile blitz and new attacks continue.
01:21Iran's warning triggers global alarm.
01:26World on edge as crisis deepens.
01:33Is this the beginning of World War III?
01:38Big focus on India First.
01:44And here in Canada, the big seven economies will talk about the road ahead.
01:50Is peace possible in this conflict zone?
01:53Whether it's between Russia and Ukraine or Israel and Iran.
01:58And does that, as we just indicated, does that threaten to now extend into World War III?
02:05Or are there solutions in mind?
02:06And do keep in mind, this is also the first time that Prime Minister Narendra Modi and the U.S. President Donald Trump will be face to face after India's Operation Sindur.
02:15Lots happening across the world that we decode over the next one hour.
02:20I'm Gaurab Sabanth.
02:21Let's get started with the headlines at 8.
02:23Cockpit voice recorder of Air India Flight AI-171 located.
02:35Crucial recovery to a certain cause of crash.
02:38High-level probe committee meets in the national capital.
02:41Spotlight on the Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner's safety.
02:53Air India-Hong Kong Flight to Delhi diverted after pilots suspected a technical snag.
02:58British Airways Flight from London to Chennai returns after an alleged flap issue.
03:03Prime Minister Narendra Modi is en route to Canada to attend G7 Summit outreach.
03:15Earlier today, the Prime Minister was conferred the highest civilian honor in Cyprus.
03:21Prime Minister Narendra Modi reiterates this is not an era of war.
03:26Government set the ball rolling for census in a first caste survey to be conducted in Census 2027.
03:52Politics escalates. Congress asked his census yet another jumla.
03:57BJP hits back at the Congress over hushing up of 2011 caste census data.
04:10India plans mission evacuation in Tehran.
04:14Iran agrees to evacuation of foreign nationals via land borders.
04:18As India considers bringing 10,000 Indians back to safety.
04:33Our top focus story on this special broadcast from Canada is that conflict between Israel and Iran
04:40that's threatening to now escalate.
04:42This is day 4. More than 220 lives have been lost in Iran.
04:47More than 20 lives have been lost in Israel.
04:50In fact, Iranian missiles continue to target Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and Haifa.
04:55That crucial oil port of Israel in Tel Aviv.
05:00Building blocks have been taken down.
05:03Overwhelming the Iron Dome and David Sling missile defense shield of Israel.
05:09Do keep in mind, this is happening at a time when U.S. Navy warships and U.S. Air Force fighter jets
05:14are assisting the Israeli forces in taking down the incoming threat.
05:20So, that's the level of intensity that Iran is also able to maintain on day 4.
05:25After initially, it was surprised.
05:28But Israel's strikes have also resulted in several top intelligence
05:32and Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps officers being neutralized.
05:37And both sides are now threatening each other that there is worse in store.
05:42A devastating wave of missile strikes from Iran.
06:01Loud explosions were heard in Israel's Haifa area
06:04as some of the Iranian missiles slipped through Israel's missile defense,
06:09hitting civilian areas.
06:10Israel and Iran launched fresh attacks on each other,
06:18killing scores of civilians and raising fears of a wider conflict.
06:23Eyewitness images showed thick plumes of smoke
06:26rising next to a refinery plant in Israel's Haifa.
06:32Iran struck both Tel Aviv and Haifa overnight,
06:35killing at least five people, increasing Israel's death toll to over 33.
06:40Fire trucks were seen at oil refinery in Israel's Haifa
06:44after an Iranian barrage of missiles hit various locations across the country.
06:51Israel said its pipelines and transmission lines in Haifa
06:54have been damaged by Iranian missile strikes.
06:57Several residential buildings in a densely populated neighborhood of Tel Aviv and Peta Tifka
07:05were destroyed in a strike that blew out the windows of hotels and other nearby homes.
07:16Meanwhile, Israeli army released a video which showed a strike on military site
07:21in the Iranian capital of Tehran.
07:29Israeli Air Force also identified an eliminated surface-to-air missile launch troops
07:35seconds before they reached a launcher south of Tehran.
07:38The Israeli troops were eliminated and the launcher was destroyed in Israeli strike.
07:43Israeli defense forces also precisely struck command centers belonging to the Quds force
07:51of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and the Iranian military.
07:56Israel said in these command centers were hubs of Quds militia operatives
08:01planning advanced terrorist attacks on Israeli cities.
08:05We are here because of an existential war.
08:14Think about what would happen if Iran had nuclear weapons.
08:18We embarked on a war of salvation against the threat.
08:22Iran will pay a heavy price for the killing of civilians.
08:26We will strike them.
08:27We will deliver them a crushing blow.
08:29Iran has now also said that its parliament is preparing
08:40a bill to leave the nuclear non-proliferation treaty
08:43and that Tehran remains opposed to developing weapons of mass destruction.
08:50Meanwhile, world leaders continue to push for de-escalation in war.
08:54Well, I hope there's going to be a deal.
08:58I think it's time for a deal and we'll see what happens.
09:01But sometimes they have to fight it out.
09:03But we're going to see what happens.
09:05I think there's a good chance there'll be a deal.
09:07I spoke with Prime Minister Netanyahu today.
09:11I reiterated Europe's commitment to peace and stability in the Middle East.
09:17In this context, Israel has the right to defend itself.
09:24Iran is the principal source of regional instability.
09:29And we've always been very clear, Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.
09:36The West Asia war widening and threatening to engulf the entire region.
09:41Bureau Report, India Today.
09:47The government coming in from the United States of America
09:57is not signing in on the G7 statement on the Israel-Iran conflict.
10:07The information that we have is President Donald Trump
10:11is not signing that G7 statement.
10:14We will get you details of that statement in just about a moment from now.
10:20The G7 is seeking dialing down of escalations.
10:27U.S. President Donald Trump is very clearly of the opinion
10:30that Israel has a right to defend itself.
10:33But to what extent does that right go remains the big question.
10:38I also now want to bring into this conversation,
10:41joining us on this India Today special broadcast
10:45is Professor Ephraim Inbar,
10:49President of the Jerusalem Institute of Strategy and Security.
10:52Kabir Taneja is Deputy Director and Fellow
10:54Middle East Strategic Studies Program at the Observer Research Foundation.
10:58And Sandeep Unnithan is a senior journalist with me on this broadcast.
11:02Sandeep, bring us details of how
11:05you know, the G7 is not on the same page on the road ahead.
11:11Donald Trump, this is the first time
11:14that Donald Trump is also interacting
11:16with other G7 leaders
11:18after he's taken over for his second tenure.
11:22And everyone clearly wants to ensure
11:24that they're not riling up Trump all the way.
11:27Sandeep.
11:28Absolutely, Gaurav.
11:29You know, and the big question in all of this conflict
11:32over the last couple of days,
11:33Gaurav, is being the flip-flops from the United States.
11:38You know, Marco Rubio, Secretary of State,
11:41a few days back said that the U.S.
11:43had nothing to do with the Israeli strikes on Iran.
11:47And then a few days later,
11:48you had Donald Trump coming in
11:50and asking Iran to, you know,
11:52come and strike a deal
11:53and that Israel was using American weapons,
11:57you know, against Israel, against Iran.
12:00And so it's a very bizarre kind of,
12:02you know, mixed messaging
12:03that's coming from the United States, Gaurav.
12:06But, you know, the fact is that
12:08Israel could not have struck at Iran
12:11without the approval of the United States.
12:14It's not just the weapons.
12:15It's just the whole timing of all of this.
12:18You know, ahead of the G7 summit,
12:20the fact that Iran has been playing hard to get.
12:24You have the IAEA statement that's come about.
12:26And, of course, that new outreach towards Pakistan.
12:30General Asim Munir, Gaurav,
12:32we've been talking over this over the last couple of days.
12:34What made the United States, you know,
12:36go back to Asim Munir
12:39and bring Pakistan out of the doghouse
12:42in the last couple of days.
12:43So all of this points to a new great game in West Asia,
12:47which is targeted at Iran.
12:49Iran, it's meant to keep Iran away
12:51from getting nuclear weapons.
12:53And in all of this, it seems that
12:55Israel and the United States
12:57are fellow travelers.
12:59Gaurav.
13:03One thing is very clear.
13:06Israel wouldn't have mounted an operation
13:07of this scale, this magnitude,
13:09and the level it's targeted Iran
13:11without the United States being on board.
13:14And if G7 thought,
13:16G7 countries thought that they will get
13:18Israel to back down
13:20without achieving those aims
13:21and that President Trump would sign in on it,
13:24perhaps, you know,
13:25they were expecting a bit too much.
13:28Were they?
13:29Kabir Taneja also joins me
13:30on this broadcast.
13:31Kabir Taneja,
13:32how do you look at this report
13:33that's coming in from Calgary
13:35that indicates that Trump
13:37is not signing in
13:38on demands for de-escalation?
13:43Israel clearly appears to be moving
13:44towards a goal in mind.
13:47Is there clarity on what that goal is
13:48and what is your appreciation
13:50of Trump holding out?
13:51Thanks, Gaurav.
13:54Look, I think this is a win-win for Trump, right?
13:57Trump has been sort of developing
14:01this idea of attacking Israel since his,
14:03sorry, attacking Iran since his first term.
14:05And, you know, now Israel is basically doing
14:08what Trump would have liked to do.
14:10And this is basically Israel doing it
14:12without Trump having to enter
14:14the war theater himself.
14:16So there are no U.S. troops involved.
14:18There are no U.S. ships or aircraft involved.
14:20And Israel is doing the heavy lifting.
14:23So this is basically Trump
14:24giving political support to Netanyahu
14:26to cause, I presume,
14:28as much damage as possible
14:29to the Israeli nuclear program
14:32in a hope and expectation
14:34that maybe, just maybe,
14:36Israel comes back,
14:37Iran comes back to the table
14:39in a much more,
14:40much more weakened position
14:41and they can have a better
14:44political leverage over Tehran
14:45on what to do with the nuclear program
14:47if it has indeed survived the onslaught.
14:50And when you look at the situation
14:55right now, Sandeep,
14:56it does appear,
14:58Iran, though maybe weakened,
15:00it's clearly not still,
15:02it's clearly still in the battle.
15:03It's not out.
15:04It's been able to,
15:05even on day four,
15:07mount an attack
15:08of enough number of missiles,
15:11rockets and drones
15:11to overwhelm the Iron Dome
15:13and David's link system
15:15and cause damage
15:16even in Tel Aviv and Haifa.
15:18Absolutely, Gaurav.
15:19You know,
15:20and what we are seeing right now,
15:21Gaurav,
15:22is one of the most bizarre conflicts
15:23in the history of the world
15:25where, you know,
15:26two countries that are
15:27over 1,200 kilometers apart,
15:29they don't have a land border,
15:31are, you know,
15:32swinging at each other
15:34like boxers,
15:35throwing ballistic missiles,
15:37cruise missiles,
15:38drones,
15:38and, of course,
15:39fighter aircraft.
15:40And this is one of the most unique
15:42such conflicts in the world.
15:44And, you know,
15:45while Iran does not have
15:47an Air Force, Gaurav,
15:49they've not had any new
15:51fighter aircraft in decades.
15:52Their, you know,
15:53Air Force dates back to the 1970s
15:55to the Shah of Iran.
15:57They have kind of offset
15:59that weakness,
16:00that vulnerability
16:00by creating this drone
16:02and missile force.
16:03They have a, you know,
16:05a force of over 3,000
16:07ballistic missiles,
16:07it's estimated.
16:08The U.S.,
16:09one of the U.S. generals
16:10estimated that they have
16:11over 3,000 ballistic missiles.
16:14Now, Israel has one of the
16:15most powerful air forces
16:17in the world.
16:18And they have not,
16:19not only have knocked out
16:20the Iranian ground-based
16:21air defenses,
16:22today you have Israeli jets
16:23flying with impunity
16:25across Iran.
16:26And Iran has been
16:28firing those ballistic missiles
16:30at Israel.
16:30As you mentioned,
16:31that arsenal of ballistic missiles
16:34at Israel,
16:35literally, you know,
16:37pounding there with dozens
16:38of ballistic missiles
16:39in the hope that
16:40a few will get through
16:41the Iron Dome
16:43missile defense systems.
16:44And indeed,
16:45it seems to have happened
16:46in a couple of places.
16:47We saw those terrifying
16:48visuals of hypersonic missiles
16:50getting through
16:51a high-fine
16:53attacking civilian areas.
16:54So this is the difference
16:55in this conflict,
16:56Gaurav.
16:57The fact is that
16:57Israel is carrying out
16:58very targeted strikes
17:00against Israel,
17:01Iran,
17:02and Iran is retaliating
17:04with these ballistic missiles.
17:05Now, the Israeli strategy
17:06also is very interesting,
17:08Gaurav.
17:08What's emerging
17:09over the last couple of hours
17:10is that while Iran
17:11may have thousands
17:12of ballistic missiles,
17:14it only has a fixed number
17:15of TELs,
17:16or transporter-erector
17:17launchers,
17:18from which it can fire
17:19these missiles.
17:20So the Israeli Air Force
17:21appears to be targeting
17:23all of these TELs
17:24with great precision,
17:25knocking them out.
17:26They claim to have
17:27knocked out
17:27almost a third
17:28of Iran's
17:30missile launch capabilities
17:31by targeting
17:32those TELs.
17:33So that leaves
17:34Iran with fewer
17:35launchers
17:37through which
17:38it can fire
17:39those ballistic missiles.
17:40So it's actually
17:41a war of attrition
17:42being fought
17:43literally over days.
17:43However,
17:44it would appear
17:45two-third...
17:47Yeah,
17:49two-third
17:49would still remain.
17:51And Kabir,
17:52initially,
17:53they may have
17:54been overwhelmed.
17:55Iran may have been
17:55overwhelmed with
17:56the strikes,
17:57the extent of strikes
17:58on Friday,
17:59but on Monday,
18:01it's been able
18:01to strike back,
18:03overwhelm the
18:04Iron Dome system,
18:05strike with impunity,
18:06a third of its TELs
18:08have been taken down.
18:10But how much
18:12of their capabilities
18:13in your appreciation
18:14still remains?
18:16Because through Friday
18:16and Sunday,
18:18Israel was targeting
18:19their missile bases,
18:21their production facilities,
18:22their launch sites,
18:23and their storage capabilities,
18:26and yet on Monday,
18:27they're able to strike.
18:29Yeah,
18:30Gaurav,
18:30look,
18:30the initial strikes
18:31conducted by Israel
18:32are quite significant.
18:33So one would have imagined
18:34that the damage
18:35that's done
18:35in the initial stages
18:37would have been
18:37significant enough
18:38that these kind of launches
18:39would not have taken place.
18:40But clearly,
18:41that shows that
18:41there is depth
18:42in the Iranian missile arsenal
18:45and that they can continue
18:46doing this for some time at least.
18:48Now,
18:48no one knows
18:49how long this can go on
18:51as a protracted war
18:53because Israel is a very densely populated
18:55small country.
18:57The impact of missiles falling
18:58on Israel,
18:59on civilian populations,
19:00is going to be much higher
19:01than it is going to be
19:03possibly in Iran.
19:05So,
19:05you know,
19:06I think we'll also have to see
19:07what the political dimensions
19:08of this are going to be.
19:10For example,
19:10in Iran,
19:11there is a lot of talk about,
19:13you know,
19:13what kind of response
19:14the public is going to have
19:16with the failures
19:17of both the Ayatollah
19:19and the IRGC.
19:20But,
19:20you know,
19:20there are also reports
19:22coming out of Iran
19:22that despite disgruntledness
19:24against the political dispensation,
19:26people are rallying
19:27around a more nationalistic tune
19:29to stand against Israel
19:33as Iranians first,
19:35you know,
19:35rather than getting divided
19:37on their political lines.
19:39So,
19:39it's not necessary
19:40that we are going to see
19:41this narrative,
19:42political narrative also
19:43of,
19:43you know,
19:44regime change,
19:44for example,
19:45playing out in the way
19:46that some of the commentary
19:47it is expecting it to.
19:50So,
19:50you know,
19:51we'll also have to see
19:51what kind of political response
19:53from the people of Iran
19:55also is put forward.
20:00And what's the end game
20:02that Israel has in mind?
20:03Professor Enbar joins me
20:04from Israel FOMO
20:06on this.
20:07Professor Enbar,
20:08despite the strikes
20:10that Israel was able
20:11to carry out
20:11through Friday
20:12and yesterday
20:13and this morning,
20:15Israel was targeted
20:17by Iranian missiles
20:18in Tel Aviv,
20:19in Haifa.
20:20We're told that
20:21there are more barrages
20:23that are expected.
20:24What is the end game
20:25that Israel has in mind?
20:27Taking out nuclear
20:28launch facilities,
20:29nuclear sites,
20:30production sites,
20:32regime change.
20:33What's the aim, sir?
20:34The end game is clear.
20:37It's basically
20:38to destroy
20:41the Iranian nuclear program,
20:45the Iranian ballistic missile sites,
20:49and the capacity
20:51to produce it.
20:53And we have to be patient.
20:55the Israeli Air Force
20:57has air superiority
20:59over the skies
21:00of Iran.
21:02And it takes time.
21:05The Iranians
21:05have built over the years
21:07tremendous capacities,
21:09and it takes time
21:10to destroy them.
21:14Just to make it
21:15perfectly clear,
21:16the aim is not
21:17but to destroy
21:22the capabilities
21:23of Iran
21:24to threaten Israel.
21:30But in Israel,
21:32is there stomach
21:33for a fight?
21:34The fact that
21:35some reports say
21:36more than 25 people
21:37have been killed.
21:37There are reports
21:38that say
21:38some seem to indicate
21:39more than 30 people
21:40have lost their lives.
21:42Large building blocks
21:43have been taken down
21:44by Iranian missiles,
21:45including in Tel Aviv
21:46and Haifa.
21:48How long will
21:48Israeli people
21:50be willing to shed blood
21:51for what some describe
21:53as Benjamin Netanyahu's
21:55indefinite war?
21:58I think the Israeli people
22:00understand
22:01that the agenda,
22:06Israeli agenda
22:07in this war
22:07is extremely important.
22:09And they understand
22:11that allowing Iran
22:13to acquire nuclear weapons
22:15is an existential threat
22:16for Israel
22:17and therefore
22:18they are willing
22:19to take the heat.
22:22Actually,
22:23the estimates
22:24of the government
22:24for losses
22:28were much higher.
22:30So actually,
22:31the Israeli defense system
22:34is able to intercept
22:37over 90%
22:38of the incoming missiles.
22:40and unfortunately,
22:43we are quite pleased
22:45so far
22:47with the results.
22:48The price is right.
22:52Okay.
22:54Okay.
22:56Of course,
22:57Israel,
22:58the people in Iran
22:59say that
23:00civilians
23:01are also being targeted
23:02in Israel's
23:03mindless,
23:05as they put it,
23:06mindless operations
23:07that continue.
23:08But Kabir Taneja,
23:09is America
23:10completely on board
23:12and will American
23:13help be limited
23:14to providing
23:15either satellite
23:16imagery,
23:17intelligence inputs,
23:18taking down
23:19some of the
23:20incoming threats
23:21using the Navy
23:22and Air Force
23:22to do it?
23:23Or will they get
23:24or can they get
23:25even more actively
23:26involved?
23:28Gaurav,
23:28I think,
23:29you know,
23:29the extent of help
23:30may be sort of
23:31limited to
23:32intelligence sharing
23:32but possibly also
23:34helping with
23:35air-to-air refueling
23:36for Israeli aircraft
23:37because what they
23:37are attacking
23:38inside Iran
23:39is quite far away.
23:40For example,
23:40strikes in Mashhad
23:41were almost
23:422,300 kilometers away.
23:43So there are
23:44questions sort of
23:44how is that,
23:46what kind of
23:47capability is being
23:47mobilized to
23:48achieve that?
23:49And the second
23:50thing is,
23:50look,
23:50unless,
23:51I think Donald Trump
23:52has made it
23:52very clear,
23:53unless,
23:54you know,
23:54if US soldiers
23:56in the region
23:57are attacked
23:57and we have to
23:58remember there are
23:58US soldiers in
23:59Iraq and Syria
24:00alike,
24:00if they are
24:01attacked and
24:01if there are
24:02fatalities,
24:03if there are
24:04American fatalities,
24:05it is only then
24:05when the US
24:07is going to enter
24:07because we have
24:08to also remember
24:09that Donald Trump's
24:10base back home
24:12will not appreciate
24:13another foreign war
24:14being started
24:15by the president.
24:16He ran his
24:18elections based
24:19on criticizing
24:20foreign wars,
24:21criticizing America's
24:22role as
24:22Pax Americana
24:23on the global
24:24stage.
24:25His whole idea
24:26was to withdraw
24:26American power
24:27from these regions
24:28and this is,
24:29of course,
24:29trying to push
24:30America back
24:31into something
24:31that President
24:32Trump has
24:33previously said
24:33that he does
24:34not want to
24:34get into.
24:34So unless there
24:35is loss of
24:37American life
24:38we see in
24:39any part of
24:40that part of
24:41the world,
24:41in the Middle
24:41East,
24:42I don't think
24:42the US is
24:43going to
24:44directly enter.
24:44Okay, but
24:49Sandeep, it's
24:50very curious how
24:51America is
24:53roping in
24:53Pakistan at a
24:55time when
24:55Pakistan, some
24:56in Pakistan claim
24:57that they stand
24:58with blood
24:58brother Iran and
25:00some in Iran say
25:01that Pakistan is
25:03not very reliable.
25:04Will they stand
25:04by in a nuclear
25:06attack or will
25:06they not?
25:08Gaurav, the
25:09Pakistanis will
25:09not stand by the
25:10Iranians.
25:11That's very clear.
25:11And it appears
25:12that the United
25:13States wanted to
25:14make doubly sure
25:15that Pakistan
25:16would not stand
25:17with Iran, which
25:18explains the
25:19outreach.
25:19I mean, we have
25:20been baffled here.
25:21We have been
25:21trying to make
25:22sense of it over
25:23the last month or
25:24so, the statements
25:25that have been
25:26coming out of the
25:26United States, the
25:28IMF and the
25:29World Bank
25:30assistance to
25:30Pakistan.
25:31All of this is
25:32now making sense,
25:32Gaurav.
25:33It's part of a
25:33plan and it's
25:35most likely true
25:36that the fact
25:37that the Iran
25:39agenda was top
25:40front and center
25:41for President
25:42Donald Trump
25:43and he wanted
25:43to get Pakistan
25:44in on this.
25:45The fact that
25:46Pakistan shares a
25:48very large border
25:49with Iran and the
25:50fact that it has
25:51many air force
25:52bases, the
25:53Pakistan air force
25:54bases that are
25:54there that are
25:55closest to Iran,
25:56which the United
25:57States could also
25:58use in contingency.
25:59But the main
26:00thing was to keep
26:01Pakistan out of
26:02this scrap between
26:04Israel and Iran,
26:06Gaurav.
26:06The fact is they
26:07did not want the
26:08possibility of these
26:09two countries coming
26:10together, however
26:11unlikely and remote
26:12it might seem because
26:13the Pakistanis are not
26:14going to take sides
26:15with Iran because
26:17of course there is
26:18the religious angle
26:19because Pakistan is
26:20Sunni and Iran is
26:22Shia.
26:23So Iran is pretty
26:24much on its own in
26:25this battle because
26:26neither has China
26:28nor the Russian
26:29Federation come to
26:30its assistance right
26:31now.
26:31So it's fighting this
26:32battle with Israel
26:34all by itself.
26:35Gaurav.
26:35And Professor
26:40Inbar, what is
26:42the time frame that
26:43Israel has in mind
26:44before Iran folds?
26:46If folding is what
26:47you expect, that
26:49their missiles are no
26:50longer a threat to
26:51you and that they
26:52give up their nuclear
26:53weapons program, but
26:54then Iran insists it
26:55will continue
26:56enrichment of uranium
26:58inside Iran for
27:00peaceful users and
27:01not outside because it
27:02wants to control the
27:04enrichment.
27:05Will Israel be okay
27:06with it?
27:07Will the U.S.
27:08be okay with it?
27:09And is there a
27:09time frame in mind,
27:10sir?
27:12I think negotiating
27:13American position,
27:15which is backed by
27:16Israel, is quite
27:18clear.
27:19No enrichment
27:20facilities on the
27:22Iranian soil.
27:24And actually Trump
27:25is using Israel
27:26to soften the
27:29Iranians.
27:31And they said
27:32quite clear, I gave
27:33you 60 days.
27:35Now, the day of the
27:36attack of Israel is
27:3761st day, and you
27:41should face the
27:42consequences.
27:43The Iranians are
27:44ready to go back to
27:45negotiations, but want
27:48Trump to stop Israel
27:51from attacking.
27:52And I don't think we
27:53are going to exceed to
27:55such a demand.
27:57We started this
28:00preventive war, and we
28:03plan to finish it as
28:05long as it takes.
28:10As long as it
28:11takes, it's been on
28:12virtually indefinitely
28:13against Hamas and
28:16Hezbollah, though they've
28:17been considerably
28:18weakened, Houthis
28:20weakened, and now the
28:21Iranian regime
28:22weakened.
28:22And in your
28:23appreciation, Kabir
28:24Taneja, the last
28:2530 seconds I have on
28:26this part of the
28:26show, how long is
28:28this war likely to
28:29continue?
28:30How long can Iran
28:31withstand the
28:33Israeli attacks?
28:35Gaurav, I think the
28:36war is going to
28:37continue for some
28:38time at least, because
28:39you know, yes, Iran is
28:41in a fairly weakened
28:42position, but I don't
28:43see Iran capitulating on
28:45the nuclear question.
28:46And that is what is at
28:47the crux of the issue
28:49here.
28:49Iran is also fairly
28:50isolated, even
28:51organizations like
28:52Hezbollah haven't
28:53really come up and
28:54stepped up for them.
28:55So, but having said
28:57that, I think this
28:58will go on for some
29:00time at least and
29:01will not end in the
29:03near future.
29:08Okay, so I will let
29:09that be the last word
29:10on this part of the
29:11show.
29:12There's a story we'll
29:12be tracking very
29:13closely here in
29:14Calgary.
29:15For the G7, all the
29:17heads of state and
29:18governments, they're
29:19already in.
29:20Prime Minister,
29:20Narendra Modi will
29:21be in later this
29:22evening here.
29:24It's still early in
29:25the morning here in
29:27Calgary, in this part
29:28of Canada.
29:29So, hectic parlays to
29:31try and find out
29:32whether peace is a
29:34possibility and on
29:35what terms.
29:36But then, there's
29:37also a world which
29:39is witnessing a lot
29:40of conflict and an
29:41economic downturn.
29:42Now, can there be a
29:44road ahead and what
29:45role will India play?
29:47Also, that issue of
29:48the Palestinians in
29:49Canada, India-Canada
29:51relations, lots of
29:52all of that is coming
29:53up.
29:55It's the 51st summit
29:57of the G7 countries.
30:0050 years ago, the
30:02seven most powerful
30:03economies including the
30:05United States, United
30:06Kingdom, Germany, Canada,
30:08France, Italy, they had
30:10their meeting and in
30:12this 51st meeting, G7
30:14countries decided they
30:16needed India to be a
30:18part of that outreach
30:19program.
30:20One of the world's most
30:21powerful economies, the
30:23fourth largest economy in
30:24the world, on our way to
30:26becoming the third
30:27largest economy.
30:28And in this
30:29interconnected world,
30:30Prime Minister Narendra
30:31Modi will be talking
30:32about various issues
30:34like artificial
30:36intelligence, quantum
30:37computing, digital
30:39benefit transfers, the
30:40use of technology in
30:42making the world a
30:43better place.
30:44But in a time when
30:46there's conflict that's
30:47happening between Russia
30:48and Ukraine, Israel and
30:50Iran, India has just
30:51had a situation with
30:53Pakistan as part of
30:54Operation Sindhur.
30:56This is Prime Minister
30:57Narendra Modi's first
30:58foreign visit.
30:59He's just been awarded
31:00the highest civilian
31:01honour in Cyprus.
31:04It's a very strategic
31:05message in Cyprus.
31:06There will be bigger
31:07messages here in Canada
31:09and over the course of
31:10the next two days, we
31:11will continue to get to
31:12the latest.
31:13But first, I bring you
31:14this report.
31:18Prime Minister Modi is
31:20on his way to Canada to
31:22attend the G7 summit,
31:23where top global leaders
31:25will discuss the world's
31:27most pressing issues.
31:28The Israel-Iran war, trade
31:32and more.
31:35This marks Narendra Modi's
31:37first visit to Canada since
31:39diplomatic relations between
31:40New Delhi and Ottawa turned
31:42frosty.
31:44Over the killing of
31:45Khalistani separatist
31:47Hardeep Singh Nidjar.
31:48In this particular G7, India
31:52will be speaking about
31:54energy security, innovation,
31:56new technologies like AI,
32:00quantum, etc., which are
32:01contemporary topics which
32:02affect all of us.
32:03And our views will
32:05definitely be noticed, I'm
32:06sure.
32:08The Indian diaspora in
32:10Canada is awaiting the
32:11Prime Minister's arrival.
32:14It indicates the power which
32:16India is emerging to be, being
32:19a developing country, it has
32:21definitely left its mark on
32:23the entire world stage.
32:25And Modi is a born leader and
32:28he's already proved his
32:29mettle again and again, year
32:31after year, term after year
32:32term.
32:33So, yeah, it would not be a
32:34complete G7 without
32:35Modi.
32:36Modi coming to Canada is a big
32:38move and they can build a
32:40relationship with which Indian
32:42students can grow more and
32:44develop themselves and I
32:46believe that that can happen
32:48and that's what I hope for.
32:51The G7 is an informal grouping
32:53of the world's most
32:55industrialised economies.
32:57France, Germany, Italy, the
33:01United Kingdom, Japan, the
33:04United States and Canada.
33:08Representatives from the
33:09European Union, the IMF, the
33:12World Bank and the United
33:14Nations also participate.
33:18While India is not a member of
33:20the G7, New Delhi has been
33:22consistently invited to attend the
33:24groupings meetings since 2019.
33:28If the new government in Canada wants
33:34to extend a hand of friendship to
33:37India, India will respond because we
33:39have linkages with Canada which
33:41are several, people to people,
33:44economic, exactly, you know,
33:47diaspora, education, economic,
33:50health, energy, natural resources.
33:52The G7 invite reflects India's
33:57growing importance to the world.
34:02Canadian Prime Minister made it
34:05clear that the summit wouldn't be
34:07complete without the participation
34:09of the fifth largest economy in the
34:11world.
34:13India, the fifth largest economy in
34:16the world, effectively the most
34:18populous country in the world,
34:20central to a number of those supply
34:22chains, at the heart of a number of
34:24those supply chains, so it makes
34:25sense.
34:26And in addition, bilaterally,
34:29we have now agreed, importantly,
34:32to continued law enforcement,
34:36to law enforcement dialogue.
34:38So there's been some progress on that
34:39that recognizes issues of
34:41accountability.
34:42I extended the invitation to Prime
34:44Minister Modi in that context and
34:47he has accepted.
34:50The other six members of the G7 are
34:52also interested in deepening their
34:54strategic partnerships with India.
34:58The Prime Minister's G7 participation
35:00comes at a time of great geopolitical
35:04flux and divisions within the G7
35:06itself.
35:08The Prime Minister's presence at the
35:10G7 summit reflects India's pivotal
35:14role in shaping the global agenda.
35:16So many analysts here say this is more
35:28than just another G7.
35:31There are a lot of expectations.
35:33Will it have a roadmap for peace?
35:36Now, peace between Ukraine and Russia,
35:39one part of the story, Israel and Iran,
35:42another part of the story.
35:43And of course, will there be a cautious
35:46optimism, as some may argue,
35:48between India and Canada?
35:49Will the relationship return on an even
35:51keel?
35:51I have special guests joining me on the
35:53broadcast.
35:54I want to bring in Khushal Mehra,
35:55Indian, Indo-Canadian author and
35:58podcaster.
35:59Spends about six months here in
36:00Canada and six months in India.
36:02Welcome.
36:02How are you?
36:03I'm good.
36:03How are you?
36:04Wonderful.
36:05Let me also bring into this conversation
36:06Ambassador Veena Sikri,
36:08former top diplomat,
36:09and Michael Kugelman,
36:11South Asia Director for the Woodrow Wilson
36:13Centre.
36:15Khushal, to you first.
36:16What do we expect from the Prime Minister's
36:18visit?
36:19First, G7 and then India-Canada.
36:22Well, considering the where things had
36:24gone under Justin Trudeau and
36:25Jagmeet Singh's government,
36:26I think this is a welcome development.
36:29Mark Carney has done the right thing by
36:30calling the Prime Minister.
36:32But while it's a good first step,
36:34we have to be very cautious.
36:36India-Canada relations are always about
36:38cautious optimism because you never know
36:42when things go south in Canada.
36:43Because you have to understand Canada
36:46as a country.
36:47Canada as a country lives in the shadow
36:49of America.
36:49America has things that it tangibly
36:51boasts about.
36:53So Canada always lives in that shadow.
36:55So performative outrage is a thing in
36:57Canada.
36:57So all groups that are very good at
36:59performative outrage tend to have a
37:01very disproportionate hold on the
37:03Canadian body politic.
37:05So we should not underestimate that.
37:07So that's why I would say my first
37:09opening remarks would be that would be
37:10cautious optimism, but we are seeing
37:12all the right signs here.
37:14We see the right signs.
37:15And yesterday when we were here on the
37:17streets of Calgary, we noticed some of
37:19these separatist elements, the Khalistani
37:22elements, they were baying for the
37:24Prime Minister's blood.
37:26What would you make of that?
37:28Is that still seen as freedom of
37:30expression?
37:32Yeah, which is very interesting, right?
37:34Forget what's happening in Calgary.
37:36I think it was day before yesterday or
37:38yesterday on Parliament Hill in
37:40Ottawa.
37:41We had people going with Khalistan flags
37:44and kirpans.
37:46Now, let me tell you, if it was a
37:47trucker's protest, they would not allow
37:49that to happen on the Parliament Hill.
37:51But this is a serious issue here in
37:54Canada.
37:55Under the garb of free speech, a lot of
37:57ridiculous things are being allowed.
37:59Because the thing is that they would not
38:02allow the majority community of Canada to
38:04get away with anything like this.
38:05The only reason these separatist groups
38:09are allowed to spew is, I think, somewhere
38:12inside the Canadian system, they think
38:14they'll be called racists.
38:16And the separatists actually know that very
38:19well and they take advantage of that.
38:20So they keep using the free speech argument.
38:22It's not.
38:23I think the Khalistan element, as far as India,
38:27Canada is concerned, is a geopolitical tool.
38:29You know, it's like a negotiating card.
38:31When you're playing, you know, this is a card
38:34I have on the table.
38:35I have these people with me.
38:36But that was, you know, that used to work
38:38maybe when India was a smaller economy.
38:40Now we are the fourth largest economy in the
38:42world, going to be the third largest in
38:44three years or so.
38:46You really should not be doing that.
38:48Like, we should be talking about trade.
38:49And I'm glad Carney has invited Prime
38:52Minister Modi.
38:53I think it's the right thing to do.
38:54Let me take this to Michael Kugelman for a
38:56moment.
38:56Kushal, stay with me for a moment.
38:58Michael Kugelman, how do you view this
39:01Prime Minister Narendra Modi being invited
39:03to G7 and also the issue.
39:07So let's take both one by one.
39:09Let's take the issue of U.S.
39:12President not signing off on that
39:14agreement right now, asking Israel to
39:17back down.
39:19G7 countries not on the same page?
39:24No, this is going to be an issue that
39:26looms very large over the summits.
39:29And of course, that could not have been
39:30anticipated because going into it, there were so
39:32many other issues like the Ukraine war that
39:34were figured to be high on it.
39:36But this is going to be something that will be very
39:38difficult to avoid.
39:39And indeed, President Trump has, you know,
39:42signaled that he'd like the two sides to to not be
39:45fighting anymore.
39:45And I suspect that that's also a view that the Indian
39:48government, the Indian Prime Minister would want to see
39:51as well.
39:52But if you look at this in the context of the broader G7
39:54membership, you know, there's some issues that will
39:57have to be worked out.
39:58But there's going to be a lot of issues on the table.
40:00And I think that another issue looming over everything
40:03will be President Trump's tariff policies.
40:05I mean, this is something that clearly has impacted all of
40:07the other countries present there, including India.
40:10And given that the G7 and the G7 members and other
40:14countries that have been invited to participate, they all
40:16want to focus on how to strengthen the global economy and
40:19look at how to provide economic assistance and
40:22investment and so on.
40:23But this is an issue that comes back to the Trump
40:26administration's views on America first and the need for
40:30countries to buy American products and invest in the U.S.
40:33So there may be a bit of a disconnect there.
40:35That'll have to be worked out among the G7 members and the
40:38other leaders present at the proceeding.
40:40And Ambassador Sikri, does that appear possible, given the
40:48worldview of President Trump and other leaders are virtually
40:52poles apart, though some reports seem to indicate that
40:55leaders really do not want to rub Trump the wrong way too
40:58much?
41:00Yeah, well, I think one has to look at the G7 summit at many
41:03different levels.
41:04And one level is exactly what my co-panelists have just said,
41:07that there are huge differences on issues like tariff, on
41:10issues like the Iran-Israel conflict, the Iran-Hamas, the
41:15Israel-Hamas conflict, the Ukraine-Russia conflict.
41:18There's so many differences of opinion that already, even before
41:20the summit has started, Prime Minister Mark Carney has said there
41:24will not be a joint statement.
41:26There will just be a summary of what has been discussed.
41:29So, obviously, their differences seem clearly, even before the
41:33discussion has started, seem very wide and difficult to overcome.
41:38But this is a complete time of geopolitical flux.
41:42A complete geopolitical churn is taking place.
41:45And I think it's very important that our Prime Minister is going to be
41:48there.
41:49And I think Prime Minister Mark Carney was very gracious in what he said
41:52that the reason for inviting our Prime Minister, you cannot have the
41:55fifth, soon to be the fourth largest economy in the world, not being
41:58present at a meeting of G7, which talks about the seven largest
42:02industrialized countries in the world.
42:03So, our Prime Minister's presence is very important for several issues.
42:07One is, of course, the issue of the world economy, the state of flux,
42:10the supply chains, the technology, the energy.
42:13I think the other issue which our Prime Minister will want to talk about a
42:16lot is counter-terrorism.
42:18It is his first visit abroad after Operation Sindhu.
42:21And I think he will have this very much on his mind to explain to each of
42:25his interlocutors and to the meeting as a whole, the issue of counter-terrorism
42:30and India's very, very strong commitment, the new normal that our Prime
42:34Minister spoke about in India.
42:36And certainly, he will take this message of the new normal across there to
42:40the G7.
42:42I think the third level is the bilaterals, the bilaterals that are going to
42:47take place between our Prime Minister and Prime Minister Mark Carney.
42:51I think there will be a reset in Indo-Canadian ties.
42:53Definitely, perhaps an exchange of ambassadors.
42:56And I think certainly the fact that Prime Minister Mark Carney has talked about
42:59the law enforcement agencies of both sides interacting on the vexatious issues
43:04that have been able to relationship for the last couple of years,
43:08that has given a more normal status to the discussions on this issue.
43:13And both sides will look at each and every so-called credible allegation and answer on it.
43:18So, I think that our Prime Minister, being there on all these three levels, he will have...
43:22Sir, let's take these two.
43:24Let's take these two separately.
43:27Okay?
43:28You've raised two very pertinent points that I want to touch upon with Kushal also and Michael
43:33Kugelman also.
43:33So, one is Operation Sindhuur and India explaining our position.
43:38Now, is there, in your appreciation, Michael Kugelman, likely to be a pushback from either
43:44Europe or the United States on India's Operation Sindhuur and India's pushback on American double
43:51standards, you know, standing with the state sponsor of radical Islamist terror, Pakistan?
43:55India will have the full sympathy of the U.S. and other Western capitals, and indeed, I would
44:04assume those present at the G7 summit, particularly the members of the G7, sympathy and support
44:11for India's concerns about terrorism.
44:14I mean, this is a position that has received support from Washington and other Western capitals
44:20for quite some time.
44:21I mean, as we know, where the difference lies is that, you know, as that conflict escalated,
44:27the concern in much of the West turned to escalation concerns, concerns about nuclear
44:32escalation risks, and then the focus shifted away from the terrorism, the terrorist attack
44:37that provoked the conflict or provoked the crisis, which then turned into a conflict.
44:41But I think that if—I suspect that Prime Minister Modi will meet with President Trump during
44:47the G7, and I suspect that, you know, the prime minister will bring to the attention
44:51of President Trump, India's concerns about terrorism, and I think that President Trump
44:55will be very receptive to that.
44:57I should say that there will be an opportunity for the two leaders to clear the air in a U.S.-India
45:03relationship that has faced a few bumps post-ceasefire, given the messaging coming from President
45:08Trump.
45:09But what I'd say to that as well is that there's fairly serious trade negotiations going on between
45:14the U.S. and India right now.
45:15And I think that if both leaders can meet and say, well, let's get through the final step
45:19and get to an agreement on this trade deal, that could be a big confidence-building measure
45:23for the U.S. and India can help smooth over some of these tensions that have crept into
45:29the relationship in recent weeks.
45:30Alternatively, it would also appear that the Americans are not as trustworthy as the Americans
45:38make themselves out to be, you know, when they claim to be India's friend and then, you
45:44know, they seem to treat Pakistan, you know, the perpetrator and victim of terror on the
45:49same footing and yet would want to be friends with both.
45:52I think it's time for India to give Trump a plane.
45:54Maybe that's what would make me happy.
45:57But as far as trustworthiness is, I think it's easier to deal with a transactional America
46:01as far as India is concerned, is my view.
46:04I think transactional, foreign policy in any way is transactional.
46:09It was just that, you know, the West came up with this charade of liberal, global, world,
46:14democratic order.
46:15Everybody was transactional.
46:16The Americans were always transactional.
46:18India has always said that we have a non-alignment policy.
46:22Or a multi-aligned policy.
46:23I mean, it's about time we do that.
46:27With Trump, I think, I don't know, I still feel Trump would be a lot easier to deal with
46:31than probably a Democrat because Trump is so openly transactional.
46:36Sure.
46:36If you say no, he'll be like, oh, so they won't do it, I guess.
46:39I feel it's easier.
46:41Is it ideal?
46:42No, but it's never supposed to be ideal.
46:44Was it ideal with Biden?
46:45It was not, right?
46:46So it's like this.
46:47Let me take that to Ambassador Sikri.
46:49Ambassador Sikri, your appreciation of Operation Sindhur because America clearly would want
46:57to keep Pakistan on their side.
46:58And fair enough, they may want to do that.
46:59But at the same time, you know, you can't be friends, both of the perpetrator of terror
47:05and victim of terror and treat them both, you know, with the same brush or an unequal footing.
47:10Well, I think that, first of all, this opportunity to say this directly to President Trump is
47:17very important.
47:18And the bilateral would really put everything in focus.
47:21That's very important.
47:22And I think that, you know, explaining this directly to the commit to the G7 as well,
47:27because our prime minister, we'll be speaking to them and to tell them that you cannot,
47:30you know, equate the perpetrator and the victim of terror.
47:33And also that you cannot, you know, benefit the perpetrator by giving him, you know, huge
47:40benefits from the IMF, from the ADDB and possibly even from the World Bank going ahead.
47:45So I think all these issues have to come out clearly because this issue of terrorism is
47:49affecting the whole world.
47:51And everybody is being sympathetic, but everybody then hedges when you come to name the person
47:55because of these very special considerations.
47:58But I think occasions like this really do draw because we do know that there are other very
48:03important countries in the global south there, you know, Indonesia and Brazil and so on and
48:08the bilaterals, but them will also bring this out pretty clearly.
48:11So I think these important issues coming up and possibly getting in, you know, agreement
48:19among all the people on these issues is very valuable for India.
48:22This opportunity is a very valuable one because it also links with what we want to do with America
48:28on trade.
48:28As you said, we will talk about the bilateral trade agreement and with the other members of
48:32the G7.
48:33We have been reaching out to Europe in a big way.
48:35Our prime minister just coming after a visit to Cyprus, which is, you know, on issues like
48:39Cyprus's forthcoming presidency of the EU and also about IMAC and so many other issues.
48:45So we are looking at multiple ways.
48:47Our policy of strategic autonomy, of multi-alignment has really shown its value, has shown the strength
48:55of this multi-alignment and, you know, this has carried us through the day.
49:01And we now have all these additional members to speak to.
49:03And of course, we very much value our relationship with America.
49:06And we do hope that the bilateral between our prime minister and President Trump will certainly
49:11clear the air and carry it forward in a stronger way.
49:14What about India, Canada?
49:20You know, you've spoken of cautious optimism.
49:23Do we expect action on Khalistani elements or neither America nor Canada will act against
49:29the Pannus and the others on their territory?
49:32Well, it's a complicated answer.
49:35And we have to segregate what the Americans will do from what the Canadians might do.
49:38As far as the Americans are concerned, maybe Pannu might not be touched.
49:41But we clearly see movement on the Khalistani front.
49:44There are, see, first of all, we have to understand that Khalistan is no longer a separatist movement.
49:49It's a drug cartel.
49:50Yeah.
49:50It's a combination of crime, human trafficking, drug peddling, all those kinds of things.
49:57Which is impacting these countries worse than India.
49:59Yeah.
49:59So that is point number one.
50:01We have to look at it in the correct manner.
50:03So on that sense, the Trump administration actually has done a pretty decent job of catching
50:08a lot of these drug peddling elements.
50:11I think Pannu's rhetoric has died down a lot compared to when Biden and Trudeau were in
50:16office.
50:17As far as Mark Carney is concerned, we can only judge him by what he has done till now.
50:21We have not seen Mark Carney with any Khalistani flags.
50:25It's a matter of fact.
50:27We cannot deny facts.
50:28So that he stayed away from them.
50:30What happens in the future over here, we can only judge over a period of time.
50:35The thing is that Canada has things that India wants to buy.
50:38Canada has one of the largest solarists.
50:41Okay.
50:41Give me a moment.
50:42I have breaking news coming in and I quickly want to cut across to this big story coming
50:45in from the Israel-Iran war.
50:48During a live bulletin, Israel went and bombed the national broadcaster of Iran.
50:56Watch these images that you're putting out on your television screen.
51:00This is breaking news that's just coming in.
51:03This is Israel intensifying its operations in Iran.
51:08The national broadcaster, the national news of Iran.
51:14Just as it broadcast that news, there was a massive, massive missile strike in the middle
51:20of that broadcast.
51:21Take a look at these images and I'll get you more on the story.
51:27In the Israel-Iran war, Israel
51:57has targeted a number of vital assets, vital points deep inside, including an air base
52:04Masjidot, which is about 2,300 kilometers from the Israeli border. So Israel says it has total
52:14air superiority over Tehran skies, and it is able to target not just the missile launch sites,
52:23the transport launchers, erector launchers, but also the production site, the storage sites.
52:32It's also able to take down their air bases, their fighter jets, their military leadership,
52:38their intelligence leadership, and now their main television center has also been taken down.
52:45What is the message? This is striking fear, that is Israel's attempt, that striking fear
52:53in the minds of the regime. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has made it very clear,
53:00they are not enemies of the people of Tehran. The people of Persia and Jewish people have
53:06been friends for centuries. It's the regime that they are targeting is what Benjamin Netanyahu
53:12has claimed. Iran, on the other hand, has very clearly called Israel the Zionist regime
53:19that's against the people, that's targeting one of the oldest civilizations of the world,
53:24and that will not be permitted. They will counter it. They will continue to fight it.
53:30So this war, day four of this war, it seems to be escalating. And now, watch these images.
53:37of the destruction of the television center in Tehran. I leave you with these images.
53:50That is all that I have for you on India First this evening from Calgary in Canada.
53:55Many thanks for watching. News and updates continue on India Today. Stay with us.
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