00:00Yeah, thanks for joining us for the second anniversary today of that tragic triple killing,
00:04the murder by Valo Calacane in Nottingham. I'm with the families, the survivors of that tragedy
00:10today. Dr Sanj Kumar, father of Grace. This is Jamie Coates, the son of Ian Coates, who actually
00:19was killed on this precise spot two years ago. Emma Webber, mother of Barnaby. David,
00:26father of Barnaby and Charlie on the end there, brother of Barnaby. Let's start with you if I could,
00:34Jamie. We're here at a precise spot where your father fell two years ago. What's your memories
00:41of that before moving forward is going to come out? Spot in particular, I have to come past here
00:49every single week. So it's nothing that I can really forget about. For me, I try and put a
00:56positive on it. I don't count it as the place he was murdered. I count it as the place where
01:01it was like had his last rest. Every time I drive past or walk by or even on the adjacent
01:08street, I always look up just expecting to see him or to see some flowers or just see anything
01:14other than just it being empty. I'm really honoured to have everybody that's made this
01:21journey here today to be here. I want to remember it as a positive thing and not a negative. I
01:30think everyone here, all the families together, doing this in remembrance is a good thing.
01:36Emma, you gave a speech at the site where your boyfriend, it was incredible. I don't know
01:43how he did it, but you did. You faced up to that moment. Talk us through your recollections
01:50of what you want to happen next. Well, as I said, you know, he and Grace had to endure
01:55the most awful horror, unforgivable and unfathomable minutes literally away from safety on such a
02:04busy road. And it's well documented, the failures. But we've come together, united by this awful
02:12tragedy. But, you know, these guys are family now and whatever it takes for however long
02:18it takes, we'll get justice because he's not serving the right sentence. In fact, he's
02:24not serving a sentence at all. But more importantly, all of the failures and all of those who just
02:29didn't do their jobs properly, you know, we just want the truth. And they just the right
02:33thing needs to be done. I know that Dr. Kumar is more adept at speaking on that than me.
02:40But just look at the people that have come here and look how far that walk was.
02:45It's taken us about 50 minutes. Yeah, it's a good hour to get here. And, you know, don't
02:51want to go into all of that. But that just goes to prove how awful that was and how much
02:58worse it probably could have been had he not eventually been stopped. But we will.
03:04I'm going to stop David Charlie. I was stood there as you knelt, you know, in silence at
03:14that spot. It was a heartbreaking moment to watch. It must have been insurmountably brief.
03:21I mean, it's it's I had to take myself away at one point because it's just to believe that's
03:29where my son and his beautiful friend Grace fell. It's just such a monster. And I'm just
03:37I'm so heartbroken that we're here. Emma said we're like family now. We are. But for all
03:45the wrong reasons. Charlie, I saw you put your flower down, you kissed your hand and you put
03:51that on the pavement. Mate, what a moment. Yeah. I mean, it's probably the worst place
03:58on earth for us. That road is really hard to go to. But yeah, I think for the wrong reasons,
04:04it's nice to come here, like Dad said, and lay down those flowers so we can remember everything
04:08that happened two years ago here today. And so I haven't been to this road before, so it's
04:12really nice to come here as well. And remember Ian as well as Grace and Barney.
04:16You've been a super brave lad. I've come over to you now because you came to see us at
04:21GMI News in the studio of Westminster. You brought those three reports. You've been to
04:24see West Street and now moving forward. It's about resolution. It's about justice.
04:28It's making sure this never happens again. Well, first of all, you know, these two years
04:33have actually they've flown for me. To me, it still feels like yesterday. And the reason
04:38it has is because we've not had as families a moment's peace. We have fought from minute
04:43one. From minute one of the police telling us there's nothing they could have done when
04:47this man, this monster, was wanted on a warrant. And they said that nothing could have been
04:52done. From that moment on, we have fought. We have fought to get information that we're
04:56entitled to. There's three reports that I brought to you in the studio. None of those
05:00three reports actually still tell us how many health workers, how many doctors were actually
05:05involved. They haven't even labelled them. So my meeting with West Streeting on the 9th,
05:10on Monday this week, need to be held accountable. If you don't get accountability, you will
05:17not stop tragedies like this. And I said to West Streeting, it is in your power to bring
05:22mental health-related homicide to an end. He has the power. Why? Because if you hold people
05:28responsible, this will not happen. This happened because this man was sectioned four times.
05:34They didn't change his treatment. They put a man who was risky out in the community. And
05:39they did it four times over. So we need accountability. Without that, we will not move forward. And
05:45mental health-related homicide will not stop in our country. And we need it stopped.
05:49Emma, I'm going to come to you. Because the resolve I see in your face every time I see you,
05:55I mean, I don't know how you do it, but I don't think you're ever going to stop till you get
06:00justice on this, are you? No. Tell the truth. You know, we've got the inquiry. But that
06:07doesn't negate the fact that these individuals in the health trusts, in the police forces,
06:14some sadly in the council and anywhere else, that they shouldn't be held to account now.
06:21Because if you don't do your job properly, then you have to pay the consequences, whatever
06:24that is. And be sure that we will right this wrong, whatever it takes.
06:30OK, guys, I'm going to sign off a little. Thank you for allowing me to walk with you today.
06:33It's been a genuine privilege. It really has. I grew up on the street over there, behind
06:37here. You know, this killing happened. I walk home from school on these streets. It's
06:41just heartbreaking for the city, for these individuals. But thanks for allowing us into your
06:46space today. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Martin. Signing off. Thanks.
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