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'I Think That's Un-American': Hassan Spars With Sec. Bessent Over Trump's Tax Cuts, Tariff Policy
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During a Senate Finance Committee hearing, Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH) grilled Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent over the Trump Administration's trade policies, and tax cuts.
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Senator Hassan. Well, thank you, Mr. Chair and Ranking Member Wyden, and good morning, Mr. Secretary.
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Thank you for joining us this morning. Secretary Besson, in your confirmation hearing, I asked you
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whether any of President Trump's policies would increase costs for families. You said that there
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is, quote, nothing I can immediately think of, close quote. Mr. Secretary, have costs for new
00:24
parents increased or decreased under President Trump? I'm not sure how you're defining that,
00:31
but overall inflation is down for the first time in three years. Well, let me provide you with some
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data then. The answer is that costs have gone up for new parents. As a ranking member of the Joint
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Economic Committee, I just released a report this morning that shows that costs have gone up nearly
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25% for the most popular baby items since Trump's main tariffs were imposed. This includes a price
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increase of more than $40 for the most popular infant seat on, car seat on Amazon. And Mr. Chair,
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with unanimous consent, I'd like to enter the JEC Minority Report. Without objection. Thank you.
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Secretary, with his reckless tariffs, the President has imposed a 10% national sales tax on
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imports into our country. So, Mr. Secretary, do Americans pay tariffs?
01:26
The Senator, thus far, we have seen no price increases due to tariffs.
01:32
Well, what I just asked you was whether Americans pay the tariffs.
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Again, as I told the ranking member, Walmart has decided to pass along some portion of the tariffs.
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That is a private decision. Amazon and Home Depot have not.
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Well, let me just tell you, let me tell you what's happened to one small New Hampshire business.
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And can we have the charts up here?
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Because you're essentially testifying that Americans don't really pay the Presidents across
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the board 10% tariffs.
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Behind me is a receipt from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection showing that a small distiller in Salem,
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New Hampshire paid the United States government $2,600 in the President's new tariffs on a single shipment
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of lemons from Italy. And I have the same receipt for about the same size shipment that they had before
02:26
the tariffs went into effect. And that $2,600 was not on the receipt back in, I think it was March.
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So, since you testified that Americans don't pay the President's tariffs, will the Treasury reimburse
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this New Hampshire small business for these tariffs that they paid to the United States government?
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Again, Senator, a luxury product from Italy.
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I think we have to look in the aggregate, and the aggregate is showing us that thus far,
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contrary to many wishes, that there has been no inflation from tariffs.
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So, first of all, this is a small distiller in Salem, New Hampshire that employs people.
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And now it's got a monthly or bimonthly expense of $2,600 it didn't have.
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And it's either going to, you know, lay people off, stop producing some of its products,
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but its business isn't going to grow with a new $2,600 charge unless it's going to pass on the price
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to American consumers. So, I just want to be clear, you all need to own up to the fact
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that tariffs are taxes, they are a sales tax. I think you noted in the Oval Office recently that
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the President's tariffs would raise $2.8 trillion over a decade.
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I was quoting the CBO.
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So, okay, so the CBO now says it. So, that's now about a $3 trillion tax that Americans will pay.
03:54
No, ma'am.
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A sales tax.
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Much of that is being absorbed by the producers.
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Well, that certainly isn't true for new parents.
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In addition to the five popular products on Amazon that new parents need, there's another,
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we did another analysis on a baby list registry, new parents in America will pay total over the
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next year about $875 more for their products than they would have paid before the President's tariffs.
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Now, lastly, I just want to note that the CBO has made clear that the Republican budget bill
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will take away health care from millions and millions of Americas, both Medicaid coverage
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and the Affordable Care Act coverage. Not to mention, it will trigger a $500 billion cut
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to Medicare that will impact providers and rural hospitals. So, and it will add trillions of dollars
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to the national debt. So, Mr. Secretary, this is all to pay for massive tax cuts to millionaires
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and billionaires. Why, sir, do you need a tax cut at the expense of health care for millions
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of Americans?
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Well, I would dispute those numbers. 1.4 million illegal aliens receive Medicaid.
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But the CBO, first of all, they don't receive federal Medicaid dollars. And secondly, the CBO says
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without counting that, it's still, I think, 11 or 12 million Americans who are going to have their
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health care ripped away so that people in your income bracket can get massive tax breaks. I think
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that's un-American and I think that's unfair and I think the American people understand that too.
05:36
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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