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Scott Bessent Defends Tariffs, Trump Tax And Regulation Plans Before Congress
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5/7/2025
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent delivers his opening statement at today's House Appropriations Committee hearing.
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minutes. Good. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, the Congressman Hoyer, ranking member, the Chairman
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Joyce, ranking member Hoyer, and members of the subcommittee. I'm grateful to join you today.
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Treasury is eager to work with members of Congress to fund key priorities to strengthen our economy,
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and we look forward to coordinating with you on the President's budget as soon as it is released.
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Today, I wish to highlight the Department's efforts to boost U.S. economic growth, improve government
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efficiency, and target illicit actors that threaten our national security. The core components of the
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Trump economic agenda are trade, tax cuts, and deregulation. These are not standalone policies.
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They are interlocking parts of an engine designed to drive economic growth and domestic manufacturing.
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Tax cuts and cost savings from deregulation raise real incomes for families and businesses.
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Tariffs create an incentive for reshoring jobs and fair trade, and deregulation complements tariffs by
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making it easier to invest in energy and manufacturing projects. Already, this agenda is bearing fruit.
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In the first 100 days of the new administration, 464,000 new jobs were added to the economy.
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In April alone, over 177,000 American jobs were added, more than 40,000 more than economists predicted.
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All the while, unemployment remains low while real hourly wages continue to grow.
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As important as spurring job growth is wrangling inflation.
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And in this endeavor, the administration continues to make tangible progress.
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The CPI for energy goods declined in March, as did the price index for core goods.
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And the CPI for all items declined for the first time since the COVID pandemic.
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While the cost of goods is decreasing, so are energy prices.
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Complementary to our efforts to grow American prosperity, we are focused on improving efficiency
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across all levels of government, but especially the IRS.
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We just concluded a successful tax filing season, but the IRS still needs significant reforms
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to deliver efficient and cost-friendly results for the American people.
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In this endeavor, we have successfully cut $2 billion from the IRS IT budget without any operational disruptions.
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We achieve these cost savings by eliminating, renegotiating, and de-scoping wasteful IT and professional services contracts
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and addressing longstanding inefficiencies, such as auto-renewed licenses unused for years.
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This intervention alone will save taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars each year.
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We are also taking steps at the IRS to reduce administrative costs, with a particular focus on paper processing,
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which has been a long-standing bipartisan goal.
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Last year, the IRS spent approximately $450 million on paper processing,
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with nearly 6,500 full-time staff dedicated to the task.
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Through policy changes and automation, Treasury aims to reduce this expense to under $20 million
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by the end of President Trump's second term.
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In addition to making government more efficient, Treasury is committed to working alongside the White House
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to make America safe again.
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To that end, we have launched a maximum pressure campaign against violent cartels and terrorist networks.
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We have assessed tens of millions of dollars in civil penalties
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against organizations facilitating money laundering along the southern border,
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and by leveraging sanctions, we are choking off the financial lifelines of terrorists, criminals, and hackers
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from Mexico and Guatemala to China and Iran.
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In the first hundred days of the new administration, we have set the table for a robust economy
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that allows Main Street to grow.
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With Congress and the White House working hand-in-hand,
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we expect to see even more positive results over the next few months.
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Key to expanding economic opportunity for all Americans is making the Trump tax cuts permanent.
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We look forward to working closely with the members of this committee to pass this bill into law.
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Together, we can build a stronger, safer, and more prosperous America.
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Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
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I now recognize myself for the first questions.
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Secretary, let's fast forward a year.
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Where do you see the U.S. with respect to tariffs and the overarching strategy?
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Do you anticipate all trade deals being bilateral,
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or could there be multi-country trade pacts of which groups of countries agree to a tariff schedule?
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Mr. Chairman, this will be path dependent on our trade partners.
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As I've said before, there are 18 very important trading relationships.
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We are currently negotiating with 17 of those trading partners.
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China, we have not engaged in negotiations with as of yet.
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So I expect that we can see a substantial reduction in the tariffs that we are being charged,
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as well as non-tariff barriers, currency manipulation,
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and the subsidies of both labor and capital investment.
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So that is proceeding very well.
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Many of our trading partners have approached us with very good offers,
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and we are in the process of renegotiating those.
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With the economy, I would say that this is a three-legged stool, trade, tax, and deregulation.
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Trade was first.
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This House, according to Speaker Johnson, expects to move their portion of the bill over to the Senate
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on or about Memorial Day, so we're looking forward to that.
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And then deregulation necessarily takes longer to affect the economy,
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but I would expect in the third and fourth quarters we would see substantial benefits from deregulation
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that by this time last year could be at full force.
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We've seen a few numbers discussed in terms of how many countries with whom you have started tariff negotiations.
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What is the actual number and what is the status of those negotiations?
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How many deals do we anticipate by the end of the year in the first quarter of 2026 or the second quarter?
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And what are the biggest challenges you see to negotiating tariffs and getting trade deals done?
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Again, sir, approximately 97% or 98% of our trade deficit is with 15 countries.
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18% of the countries are our major trading partners,
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and I would be surprised that if we don't have more than 80% or 90% of those wrapped up by the end of the year,
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and that may be much sooner, that I would think that perhaps as early as this week,
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we will be announcing trade deals with some of our largest trading partners.
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They have come to us with very good offers,
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and what I will tell you is that in negotiating with some of them,
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they may not like the tariff wall that President Trump has put up, but they have them.
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So if tariffs are so bad, why do they like them?
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And then more insidious, we can see that from a practical matter
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and from academic research, are the non-tariff barriers.
07:59
If you were to look, prior to the escalation, I believe Chinese tariffs are only 5%.
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So clearly there's something else going on if they're accumulating these gigantic surpluses.
08:12
The president released his skinny budget for the year.
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