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En este video, exploramos "Mis Enigmas Favoritos" de J.J. Benítez, donde descubrimos por qué su obra es fundamental para los amantes del misterio y la literatura fantástica. Hablaremos sobre "Mi Dios Favorito", un viaje profundo hacia lo desconocido, y el intrigante "Planeta Encantado". Prepárate para sumergirte en los secretos del universo, mientras desentrañamos teorías de conspiración y fascinantes enigmas que desafían nuestra comprensión. ¡No te pierdas esta oportunidad de ampliar tus horizontes literarios!
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00:00:00Next, you are going to see and listen to a very personal interview.
00:00:04After many encounters I have had with this tenacious researcher and master of journalists,
00:00:09I had never heard him speak so clearly.
00:00:11Juan José Benítez opens his heart to us and tells us about his favorite God.
00:00:16Without taboos, without duplicates.
00:00:19Of a God who does not punish and who does not take the accounts.
00:00:22Of a God much closer and pocket.
00:00:25Accompanying his words, as he did in his book,
00:00:28My favorite God, a series of fantastic photographs are exposed,
00:00:31made by his son and also journalist, Iván Benítez.
00:00:36At the same time, in this program and exclusively,
00:00:38the children of this exciting television series,
00:00:42which he himself has directed and presented, called Enchanted Planet, were presented.
00:00:46In short, an interview with this tireless traveler and researcher,
00:00:51which I am sure will not leave you indifferent.
00:00:55Tonight, as on other occasions, once again, the student interviews the teacher again.
00:01:01Juan José Benítez, good evening and welcome to this program.
00:01:04And thank you for the teacher, but I think you're wrong.
00:01:07Well, let's leave it there.
00:01:10Juanjo, you have been almost, fortunately, on the other side and it has almost been free.
00:01:18Yes, now the doctors are starting to tell me a little bit about what has happened.
00:01:24My wife lived it in the foreground.
00:01:28And indeed, I think I've been a little more or less five minutes.
00:01:33How was that trance?
00:01:36I did not measure, I was not very aware.
00:01:41Now maybe I'm more aware than then.
00:01:44And then I went in on my own feet and I almost drowned.
00:01:50Well, officially, it seems that I had a problem with the obstruction of arteries.
00:02:00The most important problem was when doing a catheterization,
00:02:05that is, when putting one of the television cameras through the arterial system
00:02:08to see what the degree of obstruction was.
00:02:11And there it seems that, as I have been told, and it is also filmed,
00:02:16there was a dissection, a rupture of an artery, something like a cornea.
00:02:23And I was five minutes.
00:02:27Then I had to do two bypass.
00:02:30Then, I mean, the next day.
00:02:32Were you about to die?
00:02:34I was, as I have been told, about to die.
00:02:37Seriously, it's not a joke.
00:02:41And the truth is that, I repeat, I have been aware later,
00:02:45because in those moments you are not very aware of what you intuit,
00:02:52the instinct, which is what I work a lot with,
00:02:55the intuition tells you that something very serious is happening.
00:02:58But I remember that before entering the operating room,
00:03:02I went to your boss and I told him,
00:03:08there are still things to do.
00:03:11If you agree, we continue.
00:03:16And I was very confident.
00:03:20And deep down I knew that I was going to continue,
00:03:23because there are debts, there are books to write.
00:03:29Has this been a nod from your partner, Jesús de Nazaret?
00:03:33Yes, yes. No, I was not thinking about Jesús de Nazaret.
00:03:37I was thinking about the number one,
00:03:40which is very forgotten, by the way.
00:03:42But well, then I went to him, to the number one, to your boss.
00:03:47And then I made that kind of pact,
00:03:51which, well, maybe I was very afraid, as Romero works.
00:03:55But well, what are we going to do?
00:03:57How are you now?
00:03:58Very well, very well.
00:04:00I want to start working now,
00:04:02go out on the roads, start fighting,
00:04:05and finish as much as I can many of the investigations that I have pending.
00:04:10What happens is that the doctors have advised me to be calm.
00:04:14Man, life looks different.
00:04:17That's what I was going to ask you.
00:04:19Have many things changed in your life?
00:04:21Perhaps the concepts of some things or some feelings?
00:04:25Well, Luis, I have preached a lot about this,
00:04:30and I have written even more about what needs to be done
00:04:33and what supposedly needs to be stopped.
00:04:35And practiced?
00:04:36And I have not practiced it too much, as always.
00:04:40So now I realize that many of the things that I have been able to write,
00:04:45some of these little books, I should apply them.
00:04:48Life must be lived,
00:04:51and it must be lived with capital letters,
00:04:54because there is no other opportunity, at least here, from my point of view.
00:04:59And so I am trying to rethink life.
00:05:05The thing is that it is a bit premature, I understand.
00:05:08That is, decisions should never be taken at bad times.
00:05:12They must be taken when one is strong and more or less lucid.
00:05:17Then it is when it is convenient to make decisions, not now.
00:05:20I am not at 100%. I am at 40%.
00:05:23Juanjo, in that experience, did you have any perception,
00:05:28any experience close to death?
00:05:30No, they have asked me once.
00:05:32And I swear, Luis, that no matter how much I try to remember,
00:05:36there are areas that I still have clouded,
00:05:39because, well, between anesthesia and sedation, etc.,
00:05:45you do not have the exact concept of minutes or hours.
00:05:49But what I remember, no.
00:05:51I have not lived any of the experiences that are known as pre-death,
00:05:56and that I have studied a lot,
00:05:58and that any researcher or simply a fan of these topics knows.
00:06:04I have not seen the tunnel, I have not seen the light, I have not seen anything.
00:06:09And well, I guess that happens many times.
00:06:12That is, there are people who do not see anything and who do not perceive.
00:06:15In addition, with all the security and confidence that you knew you were not going to leave.
00:06:21It is something that I cannot show you,
00:06:24but I have no interest in deceiving you.
00:06:27I remember perfectly when they took me to the bed,
00:06:32in which you can only see the lights of the ceilings,
00:06:35which, by the way, are very boring, of a hospital,
00:06:38and then the instinct tells you,
00:06:41attention, you are not here for what you thought.
00:06:45This is more serious than it seems.
00:06:47Then, at that moment, when you are going to sleep,
00:06:50and all those stories,
00:06:52and the famous Rotaflex appeared in the operating room,
00:06:55you say, well, one moment, let's see, is this serious?
00:07:00Yes, yes, this is serious.
00:07:02Well, I have so many books to write,
00:07:07and I think I have some personal experiences that I have not finished finishing,
00:07:13and maybe I have not even lived them.
00:07:16Do you think I finish them, more or less?
00:07:21And I, at that moment, before they put me to sleep,
00:07:24I knew nothing was going to happen to me.
00:07:27Then the doctors told me, well, well,
00:07:30the thing was bad.
00:07:33Mi Dios Favorito is the last book you have written,
00:07:36which has been published by Editorial Planeta,
00:07:39and also, curiously, Juanjo, you present it on a very, very curious day.
00:07:45It coincides with the attack of the Twin Towers in New York.
00:07:48I asked for it.
00:07:49You asked for it, and why?
00:07:51I asked the publisher, I said, I want to present this book,
00:07:54Mi Dios Favorito, on September 11, just the year of the famous attack.
00:08:01Well, in part because it seemed to me that showing people,
00:08:09of goodwill, and everyone, of course,
00:08:12that the God who has been sold to us in the multinationals of the great religions
00:08:19is a God who can lead to acts like the one on September 11.
00:08:24Fanaticism.
00:08:25The most radical and most absolute fanaticism.
00:08:30And, well, somehow I wanted to contribute very little
00:08:35to the fact that people think that this type of God does not lead anywhere.
00:08:43While you and I talk, we are going to see some images,
00:08:46some extraordinary photographs made by your son,
00:08:50by the journalist and photographer Iván Benítez,
00:08:52who, by the way, how has it been to work with him?
00:08:55Well, Iván is a professional journalist, he is a university graduate,
00:09:02but what he likes are wars.
00:09:05And the great risk.
00:09:07And at a certain moment, I offered him, or I offered him,
00:09:11or I asked him if he would like to illustrate this book
00:09:17and, of course, accompany me in other stories,
00:09:20in the investigation of my topics.
00:09:23And I don't know if I took him lightly or what, he said yes.
00:09:27No, I think he knows my work well
00:09:31and it is a way or a mode of journalism
00:09:34that I suppose he also wants to do from time to time.
00:09:38And I was not wrong.
00:09:39I think this young man is, apart from being a great professional of the image,
00:09:46he is very intuitive.
00:09:49And then he reads a text or knows or knows me or knows an idea
00:09:53and automatically he knew how to express it.
00:09:56I wanted that in this book the images had as much value as the word.
00:10:01That is, that the images that this text summarizes
00:10:05can transmit feelings,
00:10:08which I think is a very important thing.
00:10:10We are going to see those images as we are also going to see the cover of this book.
00:10:14Impressive photography, of course.
00:10:16And I think, if I remember correctly, it is taken in Ethiopia, this photograph, right?
00:10:20It is taken at the foot of the Nilo Azul waterfalls
00:10:24and there is a story that nobody knows about that image.
00:10:28I was at the foot of the great waterfall for almost an hour.
00:10:33There is all the pulverized water hitting me in the face and all over the body
00:10:38and you can see it perfectly there.
00:10:40The thing is that the waterfall is not appreciated because it was in another position with the sun.
00:10:44And I did something there that I have never told.
00:10:48It is not a photo, I don't know, thinking about a book or images, no.
00:10:54I, after a few minutes,
00:10:58I did once, many years ago, a consecration to your boss.
00:11:05I consecrated myself to do his will always.
00:11:10And at that moment, I ratified that consecration.
00:11:14How?
00:11:16I put myself in his hands, I stayed there, I closed my eyes,
00:11:20I let the water soak me, the pulverized water,
00:11:23in an extraordinary landscape, in a great Nilo Azul waterfall.
00:11:28And I said, well, once, many years ago, I consecrated myself to your will,
00:11:33saying, my will will always be yours, even if you don't understand it.
00:11:38And what I did was to ratify it,
00:11:41to say, well, what I told you, what I consecrated myself to,
00:11:44what I promised you, I ratify it.
00:11:47I am very happy to have done it.
00:11:49I don't regret it.
00:11:51That is the secret of that image that no one knows.
00:11:54Not even Blanca, my wife, knows it.
00:11:58What is your favorite god?
00:12:00A pocket god?
00:12:03Yes, yes, yes.
00:12:05It could be the most Christian and approximate definition.
00:12:09I mean, he is a very domestic god, very useful, very practical,
00:12:20that gets you out of trouble,
00:12:22if you ever have to get someone out of trouble,
00:12:26to whom you can address, with whom you can talk,
00:12:30to whom I suppose I constantly betray, because I don't keep my word,
00:12:37but he is a god that I can almost touch.
00:12:41He is a god of feelings,
00:12:44a god that doesn't need words,
00:12:47that doesn't need prayers.
00:12:49Are we all gods?
00:12:51Yes, of course.
00:12:52I think so, I think so.
00:12:54Well, I am speaking for myself,
00:12:57because I can't, I can't demonstrate many of these things.
00:13:01Actually, no one can demonstrate the existence of god.
00:13:04It is a problem of feelings.
00:13:06They will never be able to demonstrate god,
00:13:08from a scientific point of view, never.
00:13:10Never.
00:13:11It is a problem, I repeat, of feelings.
00:13:13So, what my instinct, my heart tells me,
00:13:17is that it is like that,
00:13:20and that we are all gods.
00:13:22Why?
00:13:23Because from the moment someone has the moral capacity to decide,
00:13:29which can be when one is very young,
00:13:32I think, I understand that he takes off,
00:13:36he makes trillions of particles, or sparks,
00:13:41and each one of them goes to a being that he imagines.
00:13:46And at the moment he imagines, it appears.
00:13:48That is, to every human being.
00:13:50The human being is an imagination of god.
00:13:54I think so.
00:13:55I think it is a dream of god.
00:14:00Maybe to experience the childhood he never had?
00:14:04Well, I see that you have read the book, yes.
00:14:08I have read it, but you said these words a long time ago.
00:14:11Yes, it is a...
00:14:13I work a lot by instinct.
00:14:15Although I am a very rationalist man,
00:14:17very analyst,
00:14:19too much analyst sometimes,
00:14:21or almost always,
00:14:23sick of order, etc.
00:14:25Instinct never deceives you.
00:14:27That is why women are superior to men.
00:14:29Always.
00:14:31Women are superior to men.
00:14:33Always.
00:14:35Therefore, is god a man or a woman?
00:14:39I would like him to be a woman.
00:14:41But these are personal reasons.
00:14:45Seriously,
00:14:47everything that is worth it,
00:14:49as I say there, I think,
00:14:51everything that is worth it in life
00:14:53or in the universe is curved.
00:14:56In fact, the straight line does not exist.
00:14:58There are mathematics.
00:15:01But physically there is nothing straight.
00:15:05So,
00:15:06everything that is really worth it,
00:15:08if one analyzes it,
00:15:10is curved.
00:15:11Even the light is curved.
00:15:15Therefore,
00:15:17from this kind of
00:15:19rather profane
00:15:21and disrespectful definition,
00:15:23if you will,
00:15:25god has more of a woman than of a man.
00:15:27What happens is that we are so sexist,
00:15:29and human society
00:15:31is educated in sexism
00:15:33from the most remote history,
00:15:35that we do not conceive
00:15:37that god can have more
00:15:39feminine
00:15:41than male.
00:15:43We do not like it.
00:15:45I do.
00:15:47But for other reasons.
00:15:49Me too.
00:15:51Is it true that
00:15:53god has nothing to do
00:15:55with our destiny?
00:15:57That we are the ones who sign
00:15:59a, as you say, previous contract?
00:16:01It is one of the ideas
00:16:03that I have in my heart
00:16:05for many years now.
00:16:07And I am more and more convinced
00:16:09that it could be so.
00:16:11That is to say,
00:16:13that everything is written here,
00:16:15in this planet, in this world,
00:16:17or in this life, to be more exact.
00:16:19From my point of view.
00:16:21I repeat, I may be completely wrong.
00:16:23It would be...
00:16:25There is a moment
00:16:27in which we are truly free
00:16:29before birth.
00:16:31And there,
00:16:33from my point of view, I insist,
00:16:35a decision is made,
00:16:37what I call a contract is signed freely,
00:16:39because I have no words.
00:16:41And it is always fulfilled.
00:16:43So raising your fist
00:16:45against the heavens is absurd.
00:16:47Rebelling against
00:16:49destiny, against society,
00:16:51against oneself, doesn't make much sense.
00:16:53Because...
00:16:55Everything is programmed.
00:16:57Everything is programmed, even the smallest detail.
00:16:59And I know that people don't like this.
00:17:01Because people dream of freedom.
00:17:03And they constantly sell it to you.
00:17:05On television, in the newspapers,
00:17:07in politics, everywhere.
00:17:09You don't believe in the dream of freedom.
00:17:11No. Not here.
00:17:13Freedom is equal to information.
00:17:15Yes.
00:17:17The one who has complete information
00:17:19is free.
00:17:21And here, no one has complete information.
00:17:23No one.
00:17:25I always use the example of babies.
00:17:27Are babies free?
00:17:29No.
00:17:31They are not free.
00:17:33By their own nature.
00:17:35And we are a baby?
00:17:37We believe that we are
00:17:39wonderful, very old.
00:17:41The best of the best.
00:17:43Of beauty and wisdom.
00:17:45And it is not like that.
00:17:47We are newcomers.
00:17:49Therefore, we make mistakes.
00:17:51We necessarily make mistakes.
00:17:53I think it is part of the plan.
00:17:55And this would take us very far.
00:17:57Because it means that the evil that exists
00:17:59is part of the rules of the game.
00:18:01That evil is programmed, justified.
00:18:03Yes.
00:18:05Here, yes.
00:18:07Look.
00:18:09To think that this planet
00:18:11is subject
00:18:13to chance
00:18:15is not to be aware of history
00:18:17nor to know history.
00:18:19Nor to know what is happening at the moment.
00:18:21Because it is impossible.
00:18:23If God exists, and I think so,
00:18:25chance
00:18:27is not viable.
00:18:29Therefore, everything that happens in this world,
00:18:31which I think is experimental,
00:18:33a laboratory world,
00:18:35an experimental world,
00:18:37everything has its reason for being.
00:18:39We do not understand it.
00:18:41We do not know why 25 children die
00:18:43in Italy in an earthquake.
00:18:45In a school.
00:18:47Etc., etc., etc.
00:18:49It has its reason for being.
00:18:51Even darkness
00:18:53has its order.
00:18:55We have started the program
00:18:57with a phrase, which is the following.
00:18:59Chance
00:19:01is the best disguise of God.
00:19:03One of your phrases.
00:19:05Yes, yes.
00:19:07I think God loves
00:19:09the game.
00:19:11I think
00:19:13he is a man
00:19:15with a name, in quotation marks.
00:19:17With a great sense of humor.
00:19:19And
00:19:21disguise is part of the game.
00:19:23What happens is that we are so clumsy
00:19:25and so young
00:19:27and so babies
00:19:29that we take everything seriously.
00:19:33Would you criticize something about God?
00:19:35No.
00:19:37Not because I do not know him.
00:19:39Obviously.
00:19:41I do not know how it is.
00:19:43I feel it.
00:19:45But feeling
00:19:47is a way of approaching.
00:19:49But it does not mean
00:19:51that I have the truth.
00:19:53Fortunately, because if I had the truth,
00:19:55I would be dead.
00:19:57How is the relationship
00:19:59between Jesus of Nazareth
00:20:01and the Great Father?
00:20:03I think
00:20:05that
00:20:07history has once again
00:20:09sold us quite deformed.
00:20:11Jesus of Nazareth is a great God.
00:20:13But he is not the only one.
00:20:15And the number one,
00:20:17the boss or your boss,
00:20:19is the number one.
00:20:21And Jesus of Nazareth
00:20:23comes from him
00:20:25or depends on him
00:20:27or is part of him.
00:20:29But he is not the number one.
00:20:31Jesus of Nazareth is the number one for us.
00:20:33But he is not the number one.
00:20:35It is one of the things
00:20:37that, notice how curious,
00:20:39is forgotten.
00:20:41And everyone is very close
00:20:43or tries to be close to Jesus of Nazareth
00:20:45and it seems wonderful to me.
00:20:47But it is not the end of the road.
00:20:51What is the purpose of the human being?
00:20:53Do you think that at some point
00:20:55our souls will merge with God?
00:20:57Yes, of course.
00:20:59At the end of the road, yes, I suppose.
00:21:01Or in the middle, I don't know.
00:21:03Or in the three quarters of the stage.
00:21:05That is clear.
00:21:07I am convinced that
00:21:09Jesus of Nazareth is the way.
00:21:11We have to get to that area first
00:21:13and after that we will probably
00:21:15go to the number one.
00:21:17When, where,
00:21:19it doesn't matter.
00:21:21What happens when
00:21:23the human being
00:21:25tries to emulate God?
00:21:27Let's say,
00:21:29cloning, cryogenization...
00:21:31I don't think anything happens.
00:21:33All those steps
00:21:35are written
00:21:37and programmed and will be done.
00:21:39The problem is that
00:21:41the human being sometimes
00:21:43doesn't use them correctly.
00:21:45But I understand that in this experimental world,
00:21:47I repeat, all that is perfectly written.
00:21:49Nothing escapes
00:21:51control.
00:21:53I repeat, the old dream
00:21:55of freedom is just a dream.
00:21:57Here.
00:21:59It doesn't go away.
00:22:01Everything is perfectly
00:22:03organized and for good.
00:22:05What happens is that
00:22:07we don't understand it.
00:22:09And when someone kills or rapes
00:22:11or there are wars, we don't understand it.
00:22:13But all that even obeys an order.
00:22:15I read one of the great
00:22:17classes of this book.
00:22:19To live is to know and experience
00:22:21this human life.
00:22:23To succeed or not is secondary.
00:22:25Yes. There are many people who tell you
00:22:27I think the most important thing is to learn.
00:22:29No.
00:22:31The most important thing is
00:22:33to emulate Jesus of Nazareth,
00:22:35to follow his example.
00:22:37Total mistake.
00:22:39Nobody can follow the example
00:22:41of Jesus of Nazareth. It would be ridiculous,
00:22:43absurd and impossible.
00:22:45Jesus of Nazareth was the son of a god.
00:22:47Second, because he lived in another historical moment
00:22:49and in a totally different geographical place.
00:22:51How can you emulate
00:22:53or copy or imitate
00:22:55neither Jesus of Nazareth
00:22:57nor any human being?
00:22:59That is impossible, unfeasible
00:23:01and absurd.
00:23:03Everyone has their job and their role.
00:23:05And they have their development.
00:23:07God never gets angry.
00:23:09But Yahweh
00:23:11was angry all day long.
00:23:13I am very honest.
00:23:15Who was Yahweh?
00:23:19Yahweh was probably an organization,
00:23:21a group,
00:23:23a team, I don't know.
00:23:25You can use the word you want.
00:23:27Using the name of God
00:23:29for specific and concrete purposes.
00:23:33And when that group,
00:23:35that team
00:23:37appears in front of Moses
00:23:39and his people,
00:23:41anything superior to them
00:23:43was immediately
00:23:45identifiable with divinity.
00:23:47It meant that it was God,
00:23:49not for a fundamental reason,
00:23:51because God does not kill.
00:23:53And Yahweh killed more than a million people.
00:23:55Among them,
00:23:57children and women.
00:23:59Children, women, firstborn,
00:24:01their own, strangers,
00:24:03he didn't care.
00:24:05Look, there was a man called Uzzah
00:24:07who was more than 20 years
00:24:09a guardian of the Ark of the Covenant.
00:24:13When King David
00:24:15decides to take the Ark
00:24:17to the newly founded city of Jerusalem
00:24:19in the Kingdom of Judah,
00:24:21they transport it
00:24:23in a cart.
00:24:25And when they get to a complicated place
00:24:27in Israel,
00:24:31the cart is about to overturn
00:24:33and with it the Ark of the Covenant.
00:24:35And this famous Uzzah,
00:24:37who was a guardian of the Ark for 20 years,
00:24:39a prudent man,
00:24:41meticulous
00:24:43and dedicated in his whole life
00:24:45to the Ark of the Covenant,
00:24:47tries to stop it with his hands
00:24:49so that it doesn't overturn.
00:24:51And Yahweh kills him.
00:24:53He says,
00:24:55for having dared to touch the Ark.
00:24:57With reason,
00:24:59David gets very angry.
00:25:01Fortunately,
00:25:03Yahweh never returned.
00:25:05I have finished a little chapter
00:25:07in the television series
00:25:09about the Ark of the Covenant
00:25:11and I say that
00:25:13Yahweh has passed.
00:25:15And he has passed into history
00:25:17despite the fanatics and the religions.
00:25:19And I think he will never return.
00:25:21Juanjo, what do you think
00:25:23of those churches
00:25:25or religious currents
00:25:27that take the Bible
00:25:29at the foot of the letter?
00:25:31Well, it's anachronism.
00:25:33They are people
00:25:35who are living in the 21st century
00:25:37more or less
00:25:39like 3,000 years ago
00:25:41or 3,000 and something years.
00:25:43That's when it really seems
00:25:45that the events of Exodus happen.
00:25:49The Bible
00:25:51is a series of texts
00:25:53that are written
00:25:55almost safely
00:25:57at different times and by different hands.
00:25:59Personally,
00:26:01I don't think
00:26:03it's a sacred book.
00:26:05It's a book that has
00:26:07a certain historical character
00:26:09and that tells certain things
00:26:11that could be true
00:26:13but it's not sacred.
00:26:15Let me ask you a question
00:26:17about your book.
00:26:19You have publicly stated
00:26:21that the Bible is not the word of God.
00:26:23How dare you?
00:26:25You are a blasphemer.
00:26:27Some people have the option
00:26:29to believe in this
00:26:31and I find it absolutely disrespectful
00:26:33and they think
00:26:35I am Satan.
00:26:37How many times have they called you
00:26:39the Antichrist?
00:26:41In writing, once or twice.
00:26:43J.J. Benitez has the spirit
00:26:45of the Antichrist and that's why
00:26:47he speaks the language of the world
00:26:49and the world listens to him.
00:26:51That's a press headline.
00:26:53I wish the world would listen to me.
00:26:55When someone says things
00:26:57that don't agree
00:26:59with the philosophy
00:27:01of other people,
00:27:03it's easy to destroy.
00:27:05I don't say they should have the truth.
00:27:07I simply limit myself
00:27:09to inviting people
00:27:11to think for themselves.
00:27:13That is, to doubt.
00:27:15The worst thing that can happen
00:27:17is that someone feels
00:27:19in absolute possession of the truth
00:27:21because they can lead us
00:27:23forward.
00:27:25Doubt is the natural state of man.
00:27:27That's why we are imperfect.
00:27:29Or we are imperfect
00:27:31because we doubt.
00:27:33Or I don't care.
00:27:35But it's the natural state.
00:27:37We can't have
00:27:39almost any security in almost anything.
00:27:41But because we are made that way
00:27:43and for that.
00:27:45Before we take the first break,
00:27:47do you think
00:27:49marriage has deformed the Church
00:27:51by giving it
00:27:53a divine or sacred character
00:27:55that it never had?
00:27:57You want me to crucify myself.
00:28:01Which you don't care about.
00:28:03No. As you will understand,
00:28:05after having been where I am,
00:28:07I don't care.
00:28:09I think that in marriage
00:28:11there is a very serious mistake
00:28:13from a long time ago
00:28:15that unfortunately leads
00:28:17people to an extra suffering.
00:28:19And that is
00:28:21to feel, in many occasions,
00:28:23responsible for having violated
00:28:25a sacrament.
00:28:27Which is, I repeat, an added suffering.
00:28:29And it often creates
00:28:31very painful situations
00:28:33when the love
00:28:35ends or the contract
00:28:37between two people, a couple,
00:28:39ends.
00:28:41People don't separate
00:28:43sometimes, or they didn't separate
00:28:45because the Holy Mother Church
00:28:47doesn't allow it.
00:28:49Marriage
00:28:51is a divine invention
00:28:53of the Church.
00:28:55Marriage is a contract
00:28:57between two parties,
00:28:59or between a couple,
00:29:01purely earthly and human.
00:29:03And that, in fact,
00:29:05was done like that in the past.
00:29:07Jewish families,
00:29:09not to go any further,
00:29:11contracted the future
00:29:13of the son and the daughter
00:29:15and that has happened in many cultures
00:29:17for a long time.
00:29:19Until the Catholic Church
00:29:21arrives,
00:29:23or the Christians,
00:29:25not to point with the finger,
00:29:27and say,
00:29:29this is what Jesus of Nazareth says.
00:29:31What God has united,
00:29:33that man cannot separate, etc.
00:29:35False.
00:29:37Completely false.
00:29:39Totally manipulated.
00:29:41Jesus could never say such a thing.
00:29:43Adam and Eve.
00:29:45The original sin.
00:29:47A tone out?
00:29:49Well,
00:29:51I have an interpretation
00:29:53that is not the one
00:29:55that is used.
00:29:57I think Adam and Eve
00:29:59is a misinterpreted
00:30:01metaphor,
00:30:03worse translated,
00:30:05copied.
00:30:07And also copied by the Jews.
00:30:09I wouldn't go too far.
00:30:11The Jews who existed,
00:30:13who are much more recent
00:30:15than we imagine,
00:30:17there were many people here.
00:30:19And I understand that it is
00:30:21a beautiful story of love.
00:30:23Did the boss blow you
00:30:25a formula on a plane
00:30:27at 33,000 feet?
00:30:29Yes.
00:30:31It was a very interesting
00:30:33and very fun experience.
00:30:35Three months in America,
00:30:37flying non-stop.
00:30:39And I remember
00:30:41taking a notebook
00:30:43and writing down things.
00:30:45That only appeared
00:30:47on planes at 33,000 feet.
00:30:49About 11,000 meters.
00:30:51And there emerged
00:30:53a long conversation
00:30:55with the number one.
00:30:57With the grandfather?
00:30:59With the grandfather,
00:31:01where half of the things
00:31:03seem in a sense of humor,
00:31:05half in a joke,
00:31:07yes, a conversation,
00:31:09we could say,
00:31:11where I ask him things.
00:31:13And it seems that he answers,
00:31:15or I think he answers.
00:31:17Love is equal to
00:31:19I have because I give.
00:31:21Yes, it is an equation
00:31:23A equals T times B.
00:31:25When you analyze it slowly
00:31:27and if you have a better blackboard,
00:31:29you realize that it is
00:31:31a mathematical equation
00:31:33with a lot of sense.
00:31:35Love, really,
00:31:37with capital letters,
00:31:39is because what it has
00:31:41it gives.
00:31:43And therefore it has
00:31:45because it gives.
00:31:47It is a double variant.
00:31:49It has because it gives
00:31:53and that means love.
00:31:57There is a very curious relation
00:31:59in that book
00:32:01of what things God has
00:32:03and why he has them.
00:32:05Do we speak of faith
00:32:07or do we speak of confidence?
00:32:09We speak of confidence.
00:32:11I believe that faith is a word
00:32:13that has also been sold to us
00:32:15which is a bit absurd
00:32:17because according to the Christians
00:32:19faith is to believe
00:32:21in what is not seen.
00:32:23And that is a bit absurd.
00:32:25I believe that you have to use
00:32:27intelligence, you have to use the brain,
00:32:29you have to be rationalist
00:32:31and believe in what you see.
00:32:33Therefore,
00:32:35it is better
00:32:37to go to confidence.
00:32:39Faith
00:32:41does not make much sense.
00:32:43Does the Pope believe in God?
00:32:45The Pope believes
00:32:47in a God called money
00:32:49and power.
00:32:51Why are we going to be fooled
00:32:53at this point?
00:32:55The Vatican is a multinational.
00:32:57Are you clear about that?
00:32:59I am very clear.
00:33:01Another thing is the people.
00:33:05The basic church,
00:33:07the people who are playing
00:33:09life, the missionaries,
00:33:11the simple people,
00:33:13has nothing to do with hierarchy
00:33:15or with certain hierarchies.
00:33:17And the Vatican
00:33:19is a certain hierarchy.
00:33:21Let's leave my favorite God
00:33:23a little bit there
00:33:25because the more
00:33:27one wants one thing,
00:33:29the less it is fulfilled.
00:33:31And the less one wants it,
00:33:33the more chances it has to be fulfilled.
00:33:35This is what happened to you
00:33:37when you were asked to do
00:33:39that fantastic series,
00:33:41Planet Enchanted.
00:33:43Retreat a little bit from the life
00:33:45of public investigation, right?
00:33:47Yes, I was already thinking
00:33:49about a possible retirement.
00:33:51I have been investigating for many years,
00:33:5330 years, going around the world.
00:33:55I think I have lived a lot
00:33:57and on a personal level
00:33:59already too much,
00:34:01more than a normal person
00:34:03can imagine.
00:34:05And I was thinking about retiring.
00:34:07And just at that moment
00:34:09this project
00:34:11of a series of TV
00:34:13about great enigmas in the world
00:34:15appears. I resisted.
00:34:17I did not want to do it.
00:34:19But circumstances were
00:34:21confabulating and meeting
00:34:23that in the end I accepted.
00:34:25It was written.
00:34:27Yes, it was written.
00:34:29And now I do not regret it.
00:34:31I think it has been a fantastic adventure.
00:34:33I wish I could transmit
00:34:35for the moment
00:34:37that people see
00:34:39the sensations, the images,
00:34:41the enigmas,
00:34:43of course, the mysteries.
00:34:45But more than the enigmas and the mysteries,
00:34:47what I wanted to transmit
00:34:49is that this planet
00:34:51is beautiful
00:34:53and that it is enchanted.
00:34:55I provide some data.
00:34:57It has been more than a year and a half
00:34:59of filming, of work,
00:35:0118 countries,
00:35:03more than 600 locations
00:35:05and traveled more than 110,000 kilometers
00:35:07without counting the interiors
00:35:09because obviously there is no way to count them.
00:35:11But if you like,
00:35:13we continue right away, but let's see a promotional video
00:35:15of this series.
00:35:17Agree?
00:35:21Yes.
00:35:25After 42 written books
00:35:27and 30 years of research,
00:35:29Juan José Benítez has decided
00:35:31to jump into the world of television.
00:35:33This is how
00:35:35Enchanted Planet is born.
00:35:37An ambitious project
00:35:39about the great mysteries of the world.
00:35:41For its development, the journalist
00:35:43and writer has traveled more than 110,000 kilometers,
00:35:45drinking directly
00:35:47in the sources of 24 countries
00:35:49with a total of
00:35:51600 locations.
00:35:53Did you know that the Sahara
00:35:55was a beautiful and immense garden?
00:35:57Did you know that
00:35:59in the currently aggressive deserts
00:36:01of Libya and Algeria
00:36:03a remote and splendid culture was born
00:36:05from which today's Europe comes from?
00:36:07Did you know
00:36:09that the life and words of Jesus of Nazareth
00:36:11were silenced and manipulated?
00:36:13Where is
00:36:15the enigmatic and destructive
00:36:17Ark of the Covenant?
00:36:19What was the great secret
00:36:21of Columbus?
00:36:23Did you know about the formidable
00:36:25stone spheres of Mexico and Costa Rica?
00:36:29Why did NASA lie
00:36:31in the Apollo project?
00:36:33Enchanted Planet
00:36:35is not a project like the others.
00:36:37Enchanted Planet
00:36:39is an open door
00:36:41to the noblest of the human condition.
00:36:43The ability
00:36:45to dream.
00:37:15Enchanted Planet
00:37:17is an open door
00:37:19to the noblest of the human condition.
00:37:21The ability to dream.
00:37:23Enchanted Planet
00:37:25is an open door
00:37:27to the noblest of the human condition.
00:37:29The ability to dream.
00:37:31Enchanted Planet
00:37:33is an open door
00:37:35to the noblest of the human condition.
00:37:37The ability to dream.
00:37:39Enchanted Planet
00:37:41is an open door
00:37:43to the noblest of the human condition.
00:37:45The ability to dream.
00:37:47Enchanted Planet
00:37:49is an open door
00:37:51to the noblest of the human condition.
00:37:53The ability to dream.
00:37:55Enchanted Planet
00:37:57is an open door
00:37:59to the noblest of the human condition.
00:38:01The ability to dream.
00:38:03Enchanted Planet
00:38:05is an open door
00:38:07to the noblest of the human condition.
00:38:09The ability to dream.
00:38:11I imagine that
00:38:13it has been a lot of work,
00:38:15but it has been very beautiful, right?
00:38:17It has been very beautiful.
00:38:19Well, now you don't remember
00:38:21almost the bad moments,
00:38:23but I have also known them,
00:38:25complicated and difficult.
00:38:27But in general,
00:38:29I always like to stay with the positive.
00:38:31In short, it is what counts.
00:38:33The negative, well, you learn
00:38:35at the time, but it is erased.
00:38:37And it is a series
00:38:39that I have had the opportunity
00:38:41to travel to places that I did not know,
00:38:43to others that I did,
00:38:45to unravel legends,
00:38:47stories, enigmas.
00:38:49Thirteen stories are told here,
00:38:51but as you can imagine,
00:38:53many more have emerged.
00:38:55They are there in the fridge, in the reserve,
00:38:57maybe one day I will tell you.
00:38:59It also brings you very close
00:39:01to the nature of man,
00:39:03not only to mysteries.
00:39:05At least for me,
00:39:07when we were in the Dogon country,
00:39:09in Mali,
00:39:11in Western Africa,
00:39:13seeing the misery,
00:39:15the poverty,
00:39:17the darkness
00:39:19of many of these people,
00:39:21it moves you,
00:39:23the interior.
00:39:25So all that
00:39:27contributes to enriching you personally
00:39:29and then to transmit
00:39:31probably with more strength.
00:39:33In addition, you have tried
00:39:35in this series to hook,
00:39:37as you say, through the nose
00:39:39to people who
00:39:41have no interest in enigmas
00:39:43and mysteries.
00:39:45Yes, I have tried
00:39:47not only that people know
00:39:49stories and legends that
00:39:51from my point of view are real,
00:39:53they are not invented or fantastic,
00:39:55but also to take them by the hand
00:39:57in the sense of telling them,
00:39:59well, in addition to telling you
00:40:01about the Dogon, that tribe of Mali
00:40:03that says that approximately a thousand years ago
00:40:05had a contact with beings of space,
00:40:07I also want to take it by the hand
00:40:09and that you see how Mali is,
00:40:11which is the poorest country in the world,
00:40:13more than Ethiopia.
00:40:15So,
00:40:17in that aspect I have tried to take care of it.
00:40:19There are certain brushstrokes
00:40:21of anthropological type,
00:40:23of travel, of adventure
00:40:25and, of course, of enigmas and mysteries,
00:40:27but above all, all that set,
00:40:29that people dream,
00:40:31that they know that the world
00:40:33is a beautiful planet,
00:40:35despite appearances,
00:40:37that it is worth living,
00:40:39that we are in a world
00:40:41extraordinarily beautiful,
00:40:43difficult, but beautiful.
00:40:45If you like,
00:40:47we are going to delve a little into this series
00:40:49with a chapter,
00:40:51perhaps it is one of the ones I like the most,
00:40:53because it is made in Algeria
00:40:55and more specifically in Tassili.
00:40:57You have titled it Sahara Azul, right?
00:40:59Yes.
00:41:01What do you offer in that documentary?
00:41:03Well, Sahara Azul is...
00:41:05Actually, there are four chapters
00:41:07that are linked,
00:41:09which are the only ones that are linked,
00:41:11which is
00:41:13The Silver Ring, Sahara Azul,
00:41:15Sahara Rojo
00:41:17and we write the story again.
00:41:19Sahara Azul takes place
00:41:21basically in Tassili,
00:41:23on the plateau of Algeria,
00:41:25300 meters high,
00:41:27a stone desert,
00:41:29very strong, very aggressive.
00:41:31And there are,
00:41:33as far as I know,
00:41:35around 50,000 rock paintings
00:41:37that are between 5,000
00:41:39and 10,000, 11,000,
00:41:419,000 years old.
00:41:45Many of the viewers
00:41:47of your program will surely know
00:41:49some of those paintings,
00:41:51because they became very famous
00:41:53We have prepared some images
00:41:55that I have retrieved from a documentary
00:41:57lost in the world,
00:41:59of a very old expedition to Tassili.
00:42:01Let's see those images
00:42:03while we talk.
00:42:05Well, what I have tried
00:42:07is to take the viewer
00:42:09to that place,
00:42:11which is exciting in itself,
00:42:13difficult, you can't get in a car
00:42:15or off-road,
00:42:17you have to go up walking
00:42:19and move around the plateau,
00:42:21with a lot of heat,
00:42:23always in danger
00:42:25of snakes
00:42:27and scorpions,
00:42:29etc.
00:42:31Well, there,
00:42:338,000, 9,000 or 10,000 years ago,
00:42:35that was a garden.
00:42:37Even if it seems like a lie,
00:42:39even if it takes a lot of work
00:42:41to imagine it, because it is a desert,
00:42:43I repeat, of stone,
00:42:45about 10,000 years ago,
00:42:4712,000 years after the last glaciation,
00:42:49there,
00:42:51the climatic conditions,
00:42:53the soil conditions, etc.,
00:42:55made all that area,
00:42:57and practically all of Sahara,
00:42:59a real paradise.
00:43:01There were the animals
00:43:03of the most interesting
00:43:05tropical and subtropical fauna,
00:43:07and people lived there,
00:43:09on that plateau,
00:43:11and they painted,
00:43:13they painted many things.
00:43:15But the truth is that Henri Lot,
00:43:17the artist we know,
00:43:19was left short.
00:43:21He was left very short.
00:43:23I know
00:43:25practically a hundred paintings
00:43:27that Henri Lot spread,
00:43:29which are the well-known ones,
00:43:31such as the great Martian god,
00:43:33etc.
00:43:35Those paintings, those beings
00:43:37with huge spacesuits,
00:43:39with swollen suits,
00:43:41which, of course, 8,000, 9,000 years ago
00:43:43there was no way to imagine them.
00:43:45There are thousands
00:43:47of paintings
00:43:49related to what I understand
00:43:51to be astronauts,
00:43:53a UFO phenomenon,
00:43:55astronauts, crew members.
00:43:57Abduction sequences.
00:43:59Abduction sequences.
00:44:01There is one, especially,
00:44:03in which four black women appear,
00:44:05who are being dragged by a man
00:44:07with a spacesuit,
00:44:09and behind him,
00:44:11behind this individual,
00:44:13there is an asteroid,
00:44:15which is on the ground,
00:44:17from which llamaradas come out.
00:44:19Of course, when one analyzes
00:44:21the dating of those paintings,
00:44:23it is seen that the antiquity
00:44:25is, I repeat, 8,000, 9,000, 10,000 years.
00:44:27What you do in this report
00:44:29is first show the paintings
00:44:31of normal scenes,
00:44:33which also have an extraordinary fidelity,
00:44:35right, Juanjo?
00:44:37Yes, it is one of the fundamental details
00:44:39to be able to understand
00:44:41why painters of the Stone Age,
00:44:439,000 years ago,
00:44:45painted and painted very well
00:44:47what they saw.
00:44:49So there are images of animals,
00:44:51giraffes, cows, etc.,
00:44:53with a wonderful detail.
00:44:55You can even see the eyelashes,
00:44:57the nipples.
00:44:59It is a great fidelity.
00:45:01And that means, at least for me,
00:45:03that if these people painted
00:45:05with such fidelity
00:45:07what they saw around them,
00:45:09with a suit, with a belt,
00:45:11with boots, with gloves,
00:45:13where you can see the wrinkles
00:45:15of the swollen suit,
00:45:17with antennas,
00:45:19it means that they were seeing it,
00:45:21because it cannot be invented.
00:45:23And what does this mean?
00:45:25That 8,000, 9,000 or 10,000 years ago
00:45:27some beings descended
00:45:29that were not human
00:45:31and mixed with the people of Tassili,
00:45:33from that plateau.
00:45:35What did they teach them?
00:45:37Many things.
00:45:39From there we go to the desert of Libya,
00:45:41the chapter entitled Sahara Red,
00:45:43and there you find a great surprise.
00:45:45In the desert of Cessat,
00:45:47in Aramet,
00:45:49in the southwest of Libya,
00:45:51there you find a great surprise,
00:45:53some Egyptian figures.
00:45:55Yes.
00:45:57In the Mesag of Libya
00:45:59and in Algeria itself
00:46:01and in many other places
00:46:03there are some paintings
00:46:05and engravings,
00:46:07the engravings are even older
00:46:09than the rock paintings,
00:46:11where what one observes
00:46:13are Egyptians,
00:46:15or at least what we understand
00:46:17as Egyptian profiles,
00:46:19as Egyptian boats,
00:46:21the famous ureus,
00:46:23or the snakes that come out of the head,
00:46:25cars,
00:46:27truly Egyptian,
00:46:29with the clothing of the Egyptian drivers.
00:46:31But of course,
00:46:33the antiquity of those paintings
00:46:35is also 8,000 or 9,000
00:46:37or 10,000 years old.
00:46:39And they are 2,000 or 3,000 kilometers
00:46:41from the Nile.
00:46:43And then the pharaonic culture,
00:46:45as we know it,
00:46:47begins in 4,500 BC.
00:46:49Of course.
00:46:51The first pharaoh
00:46:53of the first dynasty
00:46:55is approximately 5,000 years old.
00:46:57So you don't agree
00:46:59if there I have some paintings
00:47:01of Egyptians, in quotation marks,
00:47:03that are 9,000 or 10,000 years old
00:47:05and are 3,000 kilometers
00:47:07from the Nile,
00:47:09it means that in that place,
00:47:11in Libya, in Algeria,
00:47:13there was a culture
00:47:15that probably,
00:47:17which is what I say in the documentary,
00:47:19emigrated to the Nile
00:47:21and to other directions,
00:47:23other places,
00:47:25when desertification came.
00:47:27Desertification came
00:47:29and we continue to see images
00:47:31of Tassili in Algeria.
00:47:33That is Yabaren.
00:47:35Yabaren.
00:47:37It is one of the areas of the Tassili plateau
00:47:39where there are thousands of paintings.
00:47:41Unfortunately,
00:47:43Mr. Henry Lord destroyed
00:47:45many of them
00:47:47because he used some limestones
00:47:49to take the paintings to Paris
00:47:51and what he did was,
00:47:53when he removed the limestone,
00:47:55he dragged the painting with him.
00:47:57Unfortunately, they are destroyed.
00:47:59Do you remember that I told you
00:48:01something this afternoon
00:48:03about an ingraved being?
00:48:05Yes.
00:48:07These are what swimmers are called.
00:48:09They are individuals
00:48:11who are floating horizontally
00:48:13in strange costumes
00:48:15in ingraved positions
00:48:17and nobody knows
00:48:19what they mean or represent.
00:48:21But when someone is involved
00:48:23in the UFO phenomenon,
00:48:25it is obvious that
00:48:27someone is painting something
00:48:29that has been seen
00:48:31and that is of great interest to him.
00:48:33I even have doubts
00:48:35whether the natives
00:48:37of the Tassili plateau
00:48:39were able to paint this
00:48:41or if it was the astronauts
00:48:43who painted it.
00:48:45For a very simple reason.
00:48:47What I understand
00:48:49as the concept of abstraction
00:48:51is extraordinarily important.
00:48:53Because one has to understand
00:48:55and understand that it is a wrinkle
00:48:57and in a swollen suit,
00:48:59for a man of stone age
00:49:018,000 or 10,000 years ago,
00:49:03the sense of the wrinkle
00:49:05or of a swollen suit
00:49:07closes the wrists.
00:49:09It is not easy to understand.
00:49:11We do understand it,
00:49:13but the abstraction capacity
00:49:15of that person
00:49:17is what I have serious doubts about.
00:49:19Therefore, I think
00:49:21it is a work hypothesis
00:49:23that maybe the astronauts
00:49:25were the ones who painted it.
00:49:27If these paintings are really
00:49:299,000 years old,
00:49:31I imagine that archaeologists
00:49:33will get very nervous.
00:49:35Archaeologists get very nervous
00:49:37with many things.
00:49:41That is the great Martian god
00:49:43that we are seeing now,
00:49:45which is very destroyed.
00:49:47What do archaeologists think of this, Juanjo?
00:49:49What do archaeologists think
00:49:51of the UFO phenomenon?
00:49:53Most of them.
00:49:55There are exceptions.
00:49:57Most of them prefer not to touch
00:49:59the subject,
00:50:01there are things they do not understand.
00:50:03Among them is Tassili.
00:50:05How is it possible
00:50:07that there are paintings
00:50:09of 8,000, 9,000, 10,000 years
00:50:11or more,
00:50:13that show you beings
00:50:15that have nothing to do
00:50:17with stone,
00:50:19with stone axes,
00:50:21with axes,
00:50:23with axes,
00:50:25with boots,
00:50:27with boots,
00:50:29with gloves,
00:50:31as I said before.
00:50:33Of course, archaeologists say
00:50:35it is not viable.
00:50:37Of course, it is not recent,
00:50:39because it is very old.
00:50:41The paintings have been dated.
00:50:43So, what do we do?
00:50:45They remain silent and do not give an opinion,
00:50:47because it would mean losing
00:50:49their rank, their prestige, etc.
00:50:51Do you provide analysis
00:50:53of that antiquity in the chapter of the series?
00:50:55Yes, yes, not me.
00:50:57Those analyses have been done for a long time
00:50:59by different universities.
00:51:01One of them, especially the one in Rome,
00:51:03there is a professor who died
00:51:05a long time ago,
00:51:07who already did the treatments with carbon-14.
00:51:09And then,
00:51:11it is very clear,
00:51:13that it is between 6,000 and 10,000 years old.
00:51:15Maybe more.
00:51:17There are two chapters.
00:51:19One is, we write the story again,
00:51:21and that silver ring.
00:51:23Yes, what I do with the silver ring
00:51:25is to tell
00:51:27a short story,
00:51:29a very brief one,
00:51:31about how I find this ring,
00:51:33where I find it,
00:51:35and the, let's say,
00:51:37strange characteristics it has.
00:51:39When thermovision tests are done
00:51:41with special cameras
00:51:43of the ring,
00:51:45one finds that it has
00:51:47around,
00:51:49that cannot be seen,
00:51:51a halo of white light,
00:51:53that nobody knows
00:51:55where it comes from,
00:51:57nor how it is possible
00:51:59that it can be formed.
00:52:01Because no ring has that ability.
00:52:03And this one has it.
00:52:05And it is also in an ancient Berber language.
00:52:07It is in a Berber language
00:52:09that is also a binary language,
00:52:111s and 0s,
00:52:139 1s and 9 0s interspersed,
00:52:15and it is the language
00:52:17that I found in the Tassili,
00:52:19in the walls, in the rocks.
00:52:21A language as old
00:52:23as the paintings themselves.
00:52:25Because, let's remember that you find
00:52:27that ring diving in the Red Sea,
00:52:29in the Sinai Peninsula,
00:52:31in the year 96,
00:52:33but from there you get some coordinates
00:52:35and as a result, Tassili.
00:52:37Exactly.
00:52:39Among other investigations,
00:52:41one of them is to take this binary language
00:52:43of 1s and 0s to the computers
00:52:45and someone,
00:52:47apparently by chance,
00:52:49tells him, here are some numbers
00:52:51and those numbers look like
00:52:53some geographical coordinates.
00:52:55When we take them to the maps, Tassili comes out.
00:52:57And in Tassili is where I find
00:52:59this same language,
00:53:01in the rocks,
00:53:03next to the paintings
00:53:05of the astronauts.
00:53:07Let's skip from series to series.
00:53:09From there you go to the United States.
00:53:11You make a chapter
00:53:13that you call
00:53:15MIRLO ROJO,
00:53:17and it is dedicated to NASA,
00:53:19to the lies of NASA,
00:53:21especially to one.
00:53:23Yes,
00:53:25probably it is a chapter
00:53:27that has cost me dearly.
00:53:29That has cost you or that will cost you?
00:53:31That has cost me dearly.
00:53:33Well,
00:53:35you never know,
00:53:37it can cost me even more.
00:53:39But I understand
00:53:41that you have to be brave
00:53:43and that these are not times
00:53:45to go around.
00:53:47What I do is
00:53:49to expose in this documentary
00:53:51of 50 minutes
00:53:53what another person tells me
00:53:55and what I investigate
00:53:57to a certain extent,
00:53:59basically the information of MIRLO ROJO.
00:54:01It is what a military man
00:54:03from North America
00:54:05tells me.
00:54:07This man,
00:54:09for a series of years,
00:54:11explains to me
00:54:13that what happened
00:54:15in the Apollo project,
00:54:17in the conquest of the moon,
00:54:19is not what they have told us
00:54:21and is not what the media
00:54:23are saying today or yesterday.
00:54:25It seems like an orchestrated campaign.
00:54:27I have nothing to do with NASA.
00:54:29I can assure you.
00:54:31You have no business with them, right?
00:54:33I have no business with them.
00:54:35On the contrary,
00:54:37I think I am not very well received.
00:54:39What this man tells me
00:54:41and what NASA is saying
00:54:43is that he wants to show
00:54:45that he got to the moon
00:54:47and they are going to spend
00:54:49thousands of dollars
00:54:51to show that it is true
00:54:53that he got to the moon.
00:54:55There is a special surprise
00:54:57in that documentary.
00:54:59There is a special surprise
00:55:01that I hope people will leave
00:55:03a little thoughtful.
00:55:05Juanjo, we have to go to advertising.
00:55:07From there we would jump to Mexico,
00:55:09to Costa Rica,
00:55:11to see and film and photograph
00:55:13spheres, stone spheres,
00:55:15the spheres of nobody.
00:55:17The spheres of nobody are
00:55:19gigantic stone spheres,
00:55:21some of up to 5 meters in diameter,
00:55:23in the Sierra de Ameca,
00:55:25to the east of Mexico,
00:55:27and then in the jungles of Costa Rica.
00:55:29By the way,
00:55:31it almost costs you your hand, right?
00:55:33It cost me practically my right hand,
00:55:35almost.
00:55:37Fortunately, I move it.
00:55:39I had a simple accident in the jungle.
00:55:41Someone hit me with a huge machete
00:55:43and I lost the extensor tendon.
00:55:45But they operated on me
00:55:47right there in San Jose
00:55:49and it seems that fortunately
00:55:51I have regained mobility.
00:55:53But it was also an important scare.
00:55:57Then, the Island of the End of the World.
00:55:59Easter Island.
00:56:01Yes. In Easter,
00:56:03there are more than 2,000 books written about Easter.
00:56:05True.
00:56:07There are hundreds of documentaries.
00:56:09So I asked myself, why do I have to shoot
00:56:11on Easter Island?
00:56:13And there was something, the instinct again.
00:56:15He told me, you have to go,
00:56:17not only for the beauty of the island
00:56:19so I started to think,
00:56:21to study
00:56:23and I realized that the history
00:56:25of the beginning of the first human migration
00:56:27to the island
00:56:29had not been told
00:56:31in images well enough.
00:56:33Or at least it had not been told.
00:56:35At the level of texts and scientists,
00:56:37there is a lot written.
00:56:39But at the popular level of dissemination,
00:56:41of television,
00:56:43it was moderately told.
00:56:45But in summary, Juanjo,
00:56:47we went to Peru.
00:56:49In Peru you do some very beautiful things.
00:56:51There are stone extractions
00:56:53in a place.
00:56:55Well, tell us if you want.
00:56:57Yes, we were very surprised.
00:56:59In Peru, I wanted to pay
00:57:01a small tribute
00:57:03to Dr. Javier Cabrera d'Arkea,
00:57:05who is a man who was
00:57:07investigating
00:57:09and fighting practically alone
00:57:11for the famous
00:57:13engraved stones of Ica.
00:57:15He had a very complicated
00:57:17stone library.
00:57:19And I wanted to pay
00:57:21a small tribute to his memory.
00:57:23He had died a few days
00:57:25before we arrived in Peru.
00:57:27And I got the Indians
00:57:29of the Ica area,
00:57:31to take me to the desert
00:57:33where those stones were supposedly
00:57:35being extracted.
00:57:37There had never been a journalist
00:57:39who had never filmed
00:57:41or photographed an extraction.
00:57:43Now I do not dare to tell you
00:57:45that I am the first, but
00:57:47certainly very few have been able
00:57:49to do what we did,
00:57:51which was to be
00:57:53with the Indians extracting in one of the hills
00:57:55and they came out
00:57:57every ten minutes,
00:57:59engraved stones.
00:58:01So I was very surprised.
00:58:03Man, there is always the possibility
00:58:05that the Indians could hide them,
00:58:07that they would record them
00:58:09and then hide them.
00:58:11Well, but there we are.
00:58:13That is the enigma and the mystery.
00:58:15From there we jump to France, Italy,
00:58:17an obligatory report to the Holy Sabbath
00:58:19of Turin, with special surprises too.
00:58:21Yes, I also wanted
00:58:23the issue of the Holy Sabbath
00:58:25not to be outside,
00:58:27because I think it has been
00:58:29a bad service,
00:58:31especially in some media,
00:58:33especially the Carbon 14,
00:58:35which said it was
00:58:37a canvas of the 13th and 14th centuries.
00:58:39And I try for people
00:58:41to see for themselves that this is not true,
00:58:43that the canvas of the Holy Sabbath is authentic,
00:58:45that it is from the first century.
00:58:47And from there
00:58:49to the great surprise of all,
00:58:51and here we have to summarize it in headlines.
00:58:53The report is called The Lords of the Water,
00:58:55in Mali, in the Dogon country.
00:58:57The French anthropologists,
00:58:59Diezerlen and Hiriol, were also short.
00:59:01The story is not so beautiful.
00:59:03The story that these French
00:59:05anthropologists tell us
00:59:07practically in 1931,
00:59:091946,
00:59:11in the trips they make
00:59:13to what were then called
00:59:15the ancient countries of Sudan,
00:59:17is that there is a tribe,
00:59:19which is the Dogon tribe,
00:59:21in the Dogon country,
00:59:23to the east of Mali,
00:59:25which are illiterate people
00:59:27without any culture,
00:59:29they practically live,
00:59:31I do not say in the Stone Age,
00:59:33but almost very isolated.
00:59:35They tell these French anthropologists,
00:59:37especially Marcel Griol,
00:59:39that, well,
00:59:41a long time ago,
00:59:43more or less, I have been able to calculate
00:59:45that about a thousand years ago,
00:59:47some beings descend,
00:59:49establish contact with them,
00:59:51teach them a series of things,
00:59:53they say they come
00:59:55from the Assyrian star,
00:59:57they are illiterate people,
00:59:59they have no possibility of having a culture,
01:00:01at least the culture of the West,
01:00:03they do not have optical systems,
01:00:05or telescopes, or anything like that,
01:00:07and yet they knew
01:00:09the existence of Sirius B,
01:00:11of course of Sirius,
01:00:13and of Sirius C,
01:00:15with its orbits, its density,
01:00:17well, a series of data.
01:00:19Sirius C, discovered 6-7 years ago?
01:00:211995.
01:00:23Well, I go deeper,
01:00:25I talk to them, I go to the villages,
01:00:27I talk to the Dogon,
01:00:29and Marcel Griol,
01:00:31who did not tell the whole truth.
01:00:33There are a series of terrifying things,
01:00:35of that encounter,
01:00:37with the fishmen,
01:00:39it seems to be, as described by the Dogon,
01:00:41they were half men,
01:00:43and from the waist down,
01:00:45they had a great tail of fish.
01:00:47This was told to you by the wise men
01:00:49in the Toguna, in the House of the Word?
01:00:51Yes, I was touring the villages,
01:00:53I was twice in Mali,
01:00:55and in all practically coincided,
01:00:57in the House of the Word,
01:00:59a kind of sanctuary,
01:01:01that they built,
01:01:03following the indications,
01:01:05of the fishmen,
01:01:07with 8 columns,
01:01:091 meter, 1 meter 10,
01:01:11high is the ceiling,
01:01:13precisely so that
01:01:15all the discussions,
01:01:17since they are sitting,
01:01:19take place in peace.
01:01:21If you look, people fight on foot,
01:01:23never sitting.
01:01:25So, there is a series of information
01:01:27that they are given,
01:01:29that are very interesting, very curious,
01:01:31but there is one of the most dramatic things,
01:01:33that I repeat, Marcel Griol did not tell,
01:01:35and it is that,
01:01:37these beings of space,
01:01:39supposedly of Sirius,
01:01:41end up killing them,
01:01:43killing hundreds of Dogon.
01:01:45So, between Col and Col,
01:01:47hundreds of murders.
01:01:49Hundreds of murders,
01:01:51in addition, they extract their blood.
01:01:53How do they do it?
01:01:55They cut their nose,
01:01:57we do not know if fingers,
01:01:59or if some device,
01:02:01or if some kind of bifid tongue,
01:02:03and they killed them.
01:02:05Is there a certain parallelism
01:02:07with the evil called Chupacabras?
01:02:09Yes, the descriptions they made of these beings,
01:02:11is that they also had red eyes,
01:02:13projecting a light.
01:02:15A beam of light, right?
01:02:17A beam of light,
01:02:19exactly like the descriptions
01:02:21of the 20th and 21st century,
01:02:23of transformation,
01:02:25of immobilizing people,
01:02:27and above all, of the extraction of blood.
01:02:29I, if you want, Juanjo,
01:02:31I propose you for a next program,
01:02:33exclusively about the UFO phenomenon,
01:02:35and about this issue of Mali,
01:02:37because there is a lot to talk about.
01:02:39And we end with an obligatory report
01:02:41to your partner, Jesus of Nazareth.
01:02:43Well, I think it's very good.
01:02:45You made a report, right?
01:02:47Yes,
01:02:49perhaps also one of the hardest,
01:02:51one of the most committed.
01:02:53I don't know why,
01:02:55instinct told me
01:02:57that it was also interesting
01:02:59to shoot in Israel,
01:03:01to shoot in Jordan,
01:03:03and to show people
01:03:05some of the passages
01:03:07that, from my point of view,
01:03:09are manipulated,
01:03:11distorted, censored,
01:03:13and silenced,
01:03:15especially in the Gospels.
01:03:17From the moment of birth,
01:03:19he was not born in Christmas,
01:03:21he was not born in the year 0,
01:03:23the year 0 does not exist.
01:03:25Was he born in the month of August?
01:03:27He was probably born on the 21st of August,
01:03:29which is an anniversary that you know very well
01:03:31that I celebrate,
01:03:33that I am one of the few
01:03:35who celebrates Christmas twice,
01:03:37and he was born in the year minus 7,
01:03:39surely,
01:03:41the year 0 is an invention,
01:03:43is a mistake,
01:03:45rather, of the Catholic Church,
01:03:47involuntary in this case,
01:03:49and then I continued
01:03:51with the star of Blen,
01:03:53with the lost and found child
01:03:55in the temple,
01:03:57who was never lost,
01:03:59with his public life,
01:04:01with the trips he probably made.
01:04:03A cave in Jordan?
01:04:05A cave in Jordan,
01:04:07let's say it's one of my great satisfactions,
01:04:09because it has been,
01:04:11probably,
01:04:13not for long,
01:04:15in the north of Jordan,
01:04:174 or 5 kilometers from the river Jordan,
01:04:19there is a cave,
01:04:21where it seems
01:04:23that Jesus retired
01:04:25after the baptism.
01:04:27Jesus is baptized in Jordan
01:04:29and moves away to the desert.
01:04:3140 days and 40 nights?
01:04:3340 days and 40 nights,
01:04:35but not in the desert,
01:04:37but in hills full of olive trees,
01:04:39where there was a cave,
01:04:41where there is a cave,
01:04:43where there was a village,
01:04:45where they supplied food.
01:04:47As you can imagine,
01:04:4940 days without eating,
01:04:51practically no one can resist it.
01:04:53So, fasting is a fairy tale.
01:04:55Jesus did not fast at all.
01:04:57He fed himself,
01:04:59just like the others,
01:05:01and he dedicated himself
01:05:03to more important things,
01:05:05such as the ability to decide,
01:05:07to plan,
01:05:09or to plan his imminent public life.
01:05:11When are you going to open
01:05:13the quad again?
01:05:17It was planned
01:05:19for next year,
01:05:21but it seems
01:05:23that your boss has other plans.
01:05:25I hope
01:05:27to finish
01:05:29as soon as possible.
01:05:31As soon as possible
01:05:33means next year?
01:05:35I hope so.
01:05:37Do you want to tell me
01:05:39something that you have never said?
01:05:41There are things that I have never said,
01:05:43but I can not tell you,
01:05:45even though you are a good friend.
01:05:47When is the seventh part
01:05:49of the Trojan Horse?
01:05:51I do not know.
01:05:53I thought, I repeat,
01:05:55to release it in 2003,
01:05:57but I do not know if I will have it
01:05:59for 2003.
01:06:01I do not dare to make predictions,
01:06:03but I hope soon.
01:06:05Among other reasons,
01:06:07I do not want to let
01:06:09so many years pass.
01:06:13You have not founded any church, have you?
01:06:17What I would like, Luis,
01:06:19is that people think
01:06:21that I am giving a personal opinion.
01:06:23I do not get tired of repeating it,
01:06:25because I can be wrong,
01:06:27personally,
01:06:29intimately, after having studied
01:06:31the life of Jesus Christ in depth,
01:06:33as probably very few people have done.
01:06:35But I am convinced and sure,
01:06:37on a personal level,
01:06:39that Jesus Christ could not have founded
01:06:41any church or institution
01:06:43because it was not his style,
01:06:45because he would have automatically
01:06:47left out thousands or millions
01:06:49of people
01:06:51who do not share that institution
01:06:53or live in another place
01:06:55where they will never share it.
01:06:59It is not to know or not to understand
01:07:01what that great man was like
01:07:03and that great God.
01:07:05He was a being
01:07:07with an enormous
01:07:09respect for the freedom
01:07:11of others,
01:07:13for the freedom of ideas, of thought
01:07:15and for tolerance.
01:07:17He could never have instituted
01:07:19a history or an institution
01:07:21that is marginal.
01:07:23He could never have founded
01:07:25an institution that prohibits.
01:07:27Jesus never
01:07:29prohibited anything.
01:07:31He never prohibited Yahweh.
01:07:33He did not.
01:07:35On the contrary.
01:07:37And if you look at the institutions,
01:07:39whether it is the Catholic Church,
01:07:41the Christian ones,
01:07:43they are all exactly the same.
01:07:45They do not correspond
01:07:47with the message of Jesus.
01:07:49The message of Jesus is buried.
01:07:51Does it excite you to talk about him?
01:07:53It excites me still
01:07:55because I have come
01:07:57to have a special affection
01:07:59for him,
01:08:01perhaps
01:08:03based on studying him,
01:08:05pursuing him,
01:08:07investigating him
01:08:09and other things.
01:08:11So
01:08:13there is a kind
01:08:15of deep
01:08:17co-penetration with him.
01:08:19And notice how curious it is
01:08:21that sometimes I feel sorry
01:08:23because I forget about him
01:08:25in favor of the number one,
01:08:27the great forgotten.
01:08:29Today, no church speaks
01:08:31of the number one.
01:08:33They speak of Jesus,
01:08:35which I think is very good.
01:08:37But Jesus is a way.
01:08:39He said it.
01:08:41I am the way.
01:08:43What is your secret?
01:08:45Do you ask for things?
01:08:47No, no. I have not asked for things for a long time.
01:08:49So the secret is not to ask.
01:08:51The secret is not to ask for material things.
01:08:53It is a waste of time.
01:08:55And I say this from experience.
01:08:57What you have to ask for is information.
01:08:59When you do not know something,
01:09:01you have to try to get it answered.
01:09:03Information,
01:09:05answers, information.
01:09:07Signs?
01:09:09Signs.
01:09:11For me, they are very important.
01:09:13By the way, have you seen the movie?
01:09:15Yes, yes, I have seen it.
01:09:17And what did you think?
01:09:19Regretful.
01:09:21I was very angry.
01:09:23You are going to get angry.
01:09:25And I think you also regret it.
01:09:27Technically, I do not have any...
01:09:29From a cinematographic point of view,
01:09:31I think it is good.
01:09:33It is very worthy.
01:09:35But from the point of view of the internal message,
01:09:37non-human beings,
01:09:39aliens, are not like that.
01:09:41They have nothing to do with that.
01:09:43That is, it gives me the feeling
01:09:45that there is an orchestration
01:09:47at the level of great powers.
01:09:49I do not know.
01:09:51I am warning humanity
01:09:53that those beings exist,
01:09:55but they are also a danger.
01:09:57And that is false.
01:09:59They are not a danger.
01:10:01Because if they were,
01:10:03we would be sold already.
01:10:05Of course.
01:10:07UFOs return to the informative lecture.
01:10:09In this last week...
01:10:11I think they have never left.
01:10:13What happens is that the media
01:10:15are in another story.
01:10:17There is no echo of the news
01:10:19and, from time to time,
01:10:21there is no other way.
01:10:23Because they are already movies
01:10:25and scandalous news
01:10:27that cannot be hidden.
01:10:29Do you still believe
01:10:31that your thing is still painting?
01:10:33Yes.
01:10:35As a result of this bitter trance,
01:10:37I have reconsidered
01:10:39to retire and paint.
01:10:41But, of course,
01:10:43I can not forget
01:10:45that at the door of the operating room
01:10:47I talked to your boss
01:10:49and I asked him
01:10:51if he thought it was a good idea
01:10:53to finish what is unfinished.
01:10:55And I understood
01:10:57that he said yes.
01:10:59Therefore, I have to do it.
01:11:03How is the Magic Faith Club doing?
01:11:05Well, I guess it is going well.
01:11:09There are many people
01:11:11who wake up,
01:11:13who realize
01:11:15that life is not what they have told us,
01:11:17that it is something much better.
01:11:19And many people
01:11:21keep writing to me,
01:11:23even asking me
01:11:25where they get the club's
01:11:27membership card.
01:11:29And, well,
01:11:31I have to explain to them
01:11:33that they already have the card inside.
01:11:35What will be the next destination
01:11:37of Juan José Méritez?
01:11:39Well, at the moment,
01:11:41to regain strength.
01:11:43I have many investigations pending.
01:11:45I hope to continue,
01:11:47but we will
01:11:49take it calmly.
01:11:51Is there a next program
01:11:53on the subject of UFOs?
01:11:55Well, if your boss wants, yes.
01:11:57Thank you very much
01:11:59for this beautiful meeting.
01:12:01Thank you, very kind.
01:12:03Thank you very much, Juanjo.
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