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00:00I can't delay our esteemed guest, Colonel Douglas MacGregor, retired U.S. Army Colonel, author and defense and foreign policy consultant, who ought to be in the White House in my view, but instead, at least, he's here on the mother of all talk shows.
00:20Colonel, thank you, and my apologies for Sunday night. We experienced some extraneous technical difficulties, as I think you know, but thanks for coming back so swiftly.
00:35I wanted to start off by asking you about what might be about to happen in Iran, and if it happens, whether this is in concert with the Trump administration, or whether the Trump administration will be dragged into it regardless.
00:53Well, you'll always ask the easy questions first. I really appreciate that, George.
00:58I think the problem is as follows right now. It's pretty clear that President Trump absolutely does not want to go to war with Iran.
01:09On the other hand, he's in a difficult position because he owes his office, his position, his influence right now to the enormous support of the Israel lobby and the Jewish diaspora, which has funded it.
01:23So I think the decision has been made for the Israelis to take the first step in the direction of attacking Iran, which then puts us logically in the position of having to come to their aid.
01:39And I say aid because the Israelis are going to be on the receiving end of serious Iranian attack.
01:46And when that attack begins, it's going to be very clear that without us, the Israelis are going to have a tough time surviving.
01:52That may seem strange to some people, but I don't think we've ever seen more than a fraction of the capability that Iran has in terms of long-range strike.
02:03So I think that's where we're headed. I don't know precisely how this will be triggered.
02:09There could be a false flag operation. Something could occur somewhere that is presented as a justification for an Iranian or, excuse me, an Israeli attack.
02:20In any case, I think they'll find a way to start it.
02:24And then all bets are off because we know the regional war that we all fear.
02:28Well, then we begin in earnest. And I don't know where that leads, except that Russia, China and other states are not going to stand idle and just watch and observe.
02:39They'll be very concerned about the outcome.
02:41Well, we know something of Iran's long-range capability.
02:47But, of course, in these circumstances, one would have to be concerned about their short and medium-range capability also,
02:55because any of the U.S. allies, and don't forget Donald Trump was just there.
03:02He left dripping in gold and diamonds, metaphorically and literally.
03:07All of these American allies in the region will be gravely imperiled, let me put it as short as that,
03:20if a shooting war begins between Israel and Iran.
03:25And when America gets involved, as logically it would seem ineluctable, then all bets are off, as you put it.
03:35The oil and gas fields, the Straits of Hormuz, the whole region will be on fire.
03:41Well, it will certainly start in a way that looks contained.
03:46In other words, it will initially be Israel and Iran.
03:49But, as you say, we have somewhere between 25,000 and 30,000 U.S. troops, that is, soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines,
03:58who are within range of these weapons.
04:01That's one of the reasons that President Trump has been so reluctant to be drawn into this.
04:06He knows that we're vulnerable, and we cannot protect all these bases that we have in the region.
04:12I think the other thing, though, that should not be missed is that President Trump just made an enormous effort
04:19to persuade not only Saudi Arabia, but also the Emirates, to stay away from BRICS.
04:25Now, I don't see any evidence that that will happen.
04:28I think the Saudis will be nice to him and will obviously be pleased to invest, to some extent, in the United States.
04:37They would like to play both sides to the middle, but ultimately they are going to join BRICS.
04:42The other reason he was there was, as you saw, not just to shake hands with Mr. Jolani, the new dictator of Syria,
04:51and war criminal in my estimation, but to reassure Mr. Erdogan, to whom Mr. Jolani reports as his superior,
05:00that we are going to back the joint Turkish-Israeli bid for hegemony in the region.
05:05All of these things will fall apart once this war begins.
05:10The Turks will not stand by and watch a great deal happen before they finally decide to sort of cast off the mask
05:19and march against the Israelis.
05:21I think everybody in the region, the Sunnis in particular, have been waiting for that.
05:25I think that could happen.
05:27And again, you know, we are going to find ourselves in a confrontation with Russia.
05:31I think the Russians will avoid that in Europe.
05:35But on the other hand, in the Mediterranean, the Red Sea, the Indian Ocean,
05:38there are lots of opportunities for the Russians to play havoc with us, particularly with their submarines.
05:45And the Chinese are also present at sea, although not in great strength, but their submarines are there.
05:51A lot of things could go wrong very, very quickly for us.
05:54And then the question is, how do you disengage?
05:57And I'm sure that's on President Trump's mind, because while we're talking, George,
06:02I know a lot of people aren't necessarily paying attention to this right now.
06:06But the Bank of Japan is virtually giving up trying to sell any more of its debt.
06:11We have a lot of trouble right now dealing with our own bond market.
06:15The bond vigilantes are essentially moving in and saying,
06:18we're not buying anything unless you increase the yield.
06:23Well, once you hit 5% in the 10-year treasuries, you're in real trouble.
06:27We can't service the debt.
06:29And right now, the 20-year bonds are up above 5% already.
06:36In other words, we're sliding not only into a serious recession,
06:40but I think it could end up being a depression.
06:42So we really can't afford to do any of the things that President Trump is talking about,
06:48whether it's his Golden Dome missile defense fantasy,
06:53or it's the trillion-plus dollar defense budget designed to sustain our posture all over the world.
07:01Those things are not really attainable anymore.
07:03So over the next 60 to 90 days, a war could bring everything to a very serious crisis at home,
07:11financially, economically, as well as overseas.
07:15That could spell the end of America's long-term imperialist ambitions.
07:21Let's put it that way.
07:22Just before we turn to the biggest of these big enchiladas,
07:28the Russia-Ukraine issue,
07:31Let me ask you about Jolani, if I may.
07:36Ambassador Ford, not the British Ambassador Ford, who was also ambassador in Syria,
07:43but the U.S. Ambassador Ford, who was also in Syria.
07:48He was giving a rather injudicious talk, lecture the other day,
07:54in which he revealed that a British organization had tasked him as long ago as 2022
08:03to groom Jolani and dust him down, wipe the bloodstains of his clothing,
08:14put him into a suit and tie,
08:16and prepare him for the presidency of Syria, which he now claims he has.
08:25At the same time, Secretary Rubio says that all-out horrific civil war
08:34may be about to erupt in Syria in the next couple of weeks.
08:40What do you make of that?
08:44Well, MI6, the Mossad, and the CIA have all jointly orchestrated the events inside Syria.
08:53However, having said that, none of it would have happened without Mr. Erdogan's personal involvement and support.
09:00You couldn't have had the armed forces move as rapidly as they did and as effectively as they did
09:05to replace Mr. Assad had he not been involved.
09:09I think the Turks may come to the conclusion that the only way to avert that catastrophe
09:15is for them to actually move into Syria themselves.
09:19So I don't think it's impossible that we might see a Turkish military intervention directly into the country
09:25because the Turks don't want trouble with the Russians.
09:28And they have had difficulties with Mr. Jolani's forces
09:31in terms of keeping them from attacking Alawites and others
09:35in the vicinity of the Russian forces on the coast.
09:39So it may be that Mr. Erdogan does that.
09:41That may also provide him with a useful cover
09:45to prepare for a confrontation with the Israelis
09:47because the Israelis haven't been very smart about the way they're handling these things.
09:52They've made it known that they want to annex southern Syria.
09:55And frankly, they convey the impression that they intend to move into Damascus.
10:01And of course, that's one of the greatest cities of Islam.
10:04You know, you have the Ahmad Mosque there, which was built centuries ago.
10:09It's one of the first places that the Turkish intelligence chief went to pray when he visited Damascus.
10:15I imagine that Mr. Erdogan would want to do something similar.
10:19It's a messy situation.
10:21And under those circumstances, Mr. Erdogan may go in.
10:25And then Mr. Trump is in the unfortunate position of having to explain how his good friend,
10:31Mr. Erdogan, has taken steps that he did not clear first with Mr. Trump.
10:36But I don't think Mr. Trump is in charge, frankly, of what's happening there or in Ukraine.
10:43I think events are outpacing him.
10:45The good news is that in Ukraine, he'll probably say to hell with this, pack up his toys and go home,
10:52which would be a good thing, especially if he suspends aid to this regime in Kiev,
10:58which he should have done when he took office, and then pull all the Americans out.
11:02That would be very good.
11:03I think he's inclined to move in that direction.
11:05But the Middle East is a place where he just can't simply quickly disengage.
11:11So I think things are going to get worse before they get better in the Middle East.
11:14And Ukraine may benefit from our lack of interest and our myopic focus on Israel.
11:22What did you make of the two-hour telephone call, which seems a long telephone call?
11:30I think Mr. Putin is always polite and gentlemanly.
11:34He's tried to talk to Mr. Trump in a way to make him understand that Russia's essential conditions
11:43and goals are unchanged, and that there will be no ceasefire until those conditions are met.
11:49But at the same time, he's trying to be flexible, and he listened carefully to what Mr. Trump said.
11:55But the ultimate outcome of the phone call was nothing.
11:59It is just nothing.
12:01Mr. Zelensky knows that the worst thing that can happen to him at this point is to shut down the war.
12:09Because as soon as he shuts down the war, those troops are going to head to Kiev.
12:13Where would you go as a Ukrainian soldier right now?
12:16I think you'd go to Kiev to rid yourself of Mr. Zelensky.
12:20So why would he really want a ceasefire?
12:22His best hope for survival, in his mind at this stage, is to keep the war going as long as possible.
12:29Obviously, the Russians would be delighted if the Ukrainians took control of their own destiny finally,
12:34wrenched it away from the hands of the CIA and MI6 and the Mossad and everybody else who is in Ukraine,
12:41and established a new government.
12:43A Ukrainian army, relieved of the responsibility of having to man a front they can no longer man,
12:48would be able to do that.
12:49But that would be the end of Mr. Zelensky, I suspect.
12:53So, again, I think the situation in Ukraine has the potential to end well,
12:59at least from our standpoint now, from the standpoint of the globalists that rule Europe.
13:04Your government, Mr. Starmer or Mr. Macron or this man Mertz, that's a nightmare.
13:09Because, increasingly, the populations in Europe are discovering that they are ruled by people
13:15who will do anything in their power to destroy them.
13:18And that's beginning to sink in.
13:20It's begun to sink in in Germany.
13:22It's sunk in in Poland.
13:23I think the French are reaching that point.
13:26I keep waiting for a revolution to break out somewhere.
13:29What happened in England?
13:30Where's Cromwell when you need him?
13:32I'm here.
13:33I'm available.
13:35But that's another matter.
13:38Colonel, just finally, it's becoming very dangerous to be one of the potential next governors of Ukraine.
13:51the assassination in broad daylight, mob-style assassination, complete with the final shot to the head
14:01while the man was lying on the ground at the American Language School.
14:06This is a former member of Parliament, a former aide to Yanukovych, the former president,
14:15a man who might well have been in the running for office, but now he's dead.
14:21And it's beginning to look like the gloves are off everywhere, including in Kiev.
14:30There's high-level resignations from senior military figures and all kinds of blood-curdling threats circulating.
14:40It might very well be that this war will be ended in Kiev by the Ukrainians.
14:46Well, that, I think, is everybody's hope.
14:48As bloody and ugly as it will undoubtedly be, I think most people are looking for a Mussolini-style solution to the government,
14:57similar to what happened in Italy.
14:59And the Russians, frankly, don't really want to go in there.
15:02They never have.
15:03This is the big lie that Russia wants to conquer and rule Ukraine.
15:07Of course not.
15:08It was so disappointing to hear President Trump repeat this nonsense recently.
15:12And I don't know what happened to him because he knew better just a few months ago.
15:17But I think that's coming.
15:19It needs to happen, George.
15:21It's best for that to occur and a new leadership to emerge on its own than it is for intervention by the Russians or us or anybody else.
15:30And to the extent that the Russian FSB can support it, I'm sure they're at it right now because not much happens in Ukraine they don't know about.
15:40After all, they've lived together for centuries.
15:43But you're right.
15:44We're going to see more of that.
15:46And people are going to be aghast.
15:48But here's the last thing to remember.
15:50We're mightily responsible for this.
15:52My country is a co-belligerent.
15:54But how could Donald Trump hope to mediate anything when we are allied with this regime?
16:01We've supported it.
16:02We armed it.
16:04We encouraged it.
16:05Now we know that American and British generals have had a hand in directing the catastrophe from Wiesbaden and other places in Central Europe.
16:15My God, how bad can it get?
16:16So the best thing we can do at this point, best thing that President Trump can do, is pull the plug on it and get out.
16:23I would hope the British would do something similar, but I don't see much evidence for that yet.
16:28Well, of course, we now know it was all being done by Autopen, because Jake Tapper, who told us that such theses were Russian disinformation,
16:39has now written a book saying that Joe Biden simply was not mentally competent to be the president for a substantial part of his term.
16:52And maybe all of his term.
16:55So who, as Donald Trump asked today, who was manning the Autopen that created this monumental issue in the Ukraine?
17:07Well, there are a number of names that have been tossed out that are holdovers from the Obama administration, as you know, who are actually calling the shots, I suspect.
17:17People thought that President Obama was.
17:19I don't know.
17:21He undoubtedly had input.
17:22A number of people did.
17:24Because, as you say, when the man was elected, he was already unfit for office.
17:29You know, my concern at this point is that President Trump is also showing his age.
17:35I've begun wondering whether or not we don't need some sort of new ruling that says you can't be over the age of 65 and be president of the United States.
17:44We've always worried about someone that might be too young.
17:47We've never feared what we see happening today with someone who might be too old.
17:52But I think Biden was always a useful instrument.
17:56He was a facade.
17:58And others were shaping policy.
18:00And certainly his secretary of state, his national security advisor were key players in all of that.
18:06But they were receiving instructions and input from others.
18:10And it was so nice of Jake Tapper to now reveal these kinds of things when he knew from the very beginning this was the case.
18:16That's what's so frustrating.
18:18I mean, he's a co-conspirator in the big lie.
18:21The whole city is in need of an enema.
18:25I hate to be blunt.
18:27But it is just rotten to the core right now.
18:29It makes Versailles look competent and insightful in 1789.