The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 1 Episode 4
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00:00So cute.
00:00♪ Yeah, I did it, yeah, I really pulled it, babe ♪
00:04♪ I've never seen anything like you ♪
00:08So I'm really excited because I've been planning
00:10a girls trip for my birthday.
00:12So we're gonna stay in this really nice little penthouse
00:14and have a girls weekend away.
00:16Oh, I'm so excited.
00:19But since the baby blessing,
00:21there's a clear division, sinners versus saints,
00:24because Jen uninvited Jesse, Taylor, Layla, and Demi.
00:29I feel like we have this weird divide right now,
00:31like the sinners and the angels are at the baby blessing.
00:35So I'm really hoping that by the end of the trip,
00:38we will be one united group again.
00:40How's it gonna be with seeing Taylor?
00:42It's gonna be a boxing match.
00:44Ding, ding, ding, ding, who's gonna win?
00:46Well, she's pregnant, so you can't do that.
00:47Oh yeah, I forgot she's pregnant.
00:49I forgot, seal me.
00:53We're getting there first,
00:54so I think we get first in front of her.
00:56Taylor, I feel like you're kind of quiet right now.
00:58I'm anxious, like very anxious.
01:00I'm gonna pop my anxiety meds when we get there.
01:03You already did.
01:04If there's any like confrontation,
01:07like you're stuck with that person for the weekend,
01:09like you can't just leave.
01:12It feels really good to be back with the girls.
01:14I have missed them.
01:15I've missed the friendship of mom talk.
01:18And I am really grateful
01:19that they've like given me like the second chance.
01:21But I'm anxious about the girls' trip.
01:24I have some hard conversations I need to have with Whitney.
01:27I want to know why she didn't come to my baby shower
01:29and why there's this elephant in the room.
01:32I want to see where she's coming from,
01:33kind of understand why she feels these feelings towards me.
01:36Just know this Taylor,
01:37if things get wild, I've got your back.
01:38Yeah.
01:39Oh really?
01:40Yeah.
01:41That's sweet of you.
01:42I'm still mad at Whitney.
01:43First the Fruity Cereal incident,
01:45then becoming the victim.
01:46Demi, I have a gift for you.
01:50So dumb.
01:51Tensions are high.
01:53I have a surprise coming later,
01:55so this weekend should be pretty interesting.
02:25Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu.
02:26Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu.
02:29Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu.
02:31Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu-Fu.
02:43We're here.
02:44Woo.
02:45We made it.
02:46Cute.
02:48Very cute.
02:49Girls' trip, girls' trip.
02:50Follow me, ladies, to the penthouse suite.
02:53Welcome home, ladies.
02:55Woo!
02:56It's perfect.
02:57Hi.
02:58Hi.
02:59My eyes hurt.
03:01I was, like, not expecting that.
03:02Stacey.
03:03Wait, this is so cute.
03:05Oh, cute.
03:06Hi.
03:07Hi.
03:09I got to pop one of these.
03:10OK.
03:11Just moms and snacks.
03:13You and Bradbury fight?
03:14We're actually currently in a little bit of a disagreement,
03:18just over the whole Fruity Pebbles thing.
03:20Oh, no.
03:21Oh, shoot.
03:22He wasn't, like, a prude about it.
03:23He was like, I get it.
03:24I want you to be excited.
03:25I want you to be able to talk about these things,
03:26but I don't want to feel like I have to second guess
03:28what I'm about to do in the bedroom.
03:29Yeah.
03:30So I was like, I get that.
03:31That doesn't make sense.
03:32And I do feel bad, because I feel like I, like,
03:33betrayed him in a way.
03:35I take full accountability that I'm the one that
03:38opened the can of worms, but it does bother me
03:41the way that Whitney went about that.
03:43It just felt a little tacky to me.
03:45Yeah.
03:46Yeah.
03:47I could tell you were so upset.
03:48Is Whitney level-headed enough to have that conversation
03:50with it?
03:51How is that conversation going to go?
03:52I don't know.
03:53I don't know.
03:54She's got it coming.
03:55I feel like, well, maybe she should
03:56stop doing things then.
03:57Yeah.
03:58Whitney's been one of my really good friends
04:00for two years now.
04:02She likes to think that she's self-aware,
04:04but she doesn't take accountability
04:07a lot of the time.
04:08Even I would have been like, hey,
04:09sorry I didn't send you a message about not
04:10coming to your shower.
04:11Like, I don't know.
04:12It just seems like anything.
04:13Yeah, the fact that she can go about life
04:15and go about those situations just, like, unbothered,
04:18that makes me nervous.
04:20I'm honestly surprised to hear that other people
04:23have issues with Whitney.
04:24I thought I was maybe the only one on the outside
04:27of it with her.
04:28But we work together.
04:30We do lots of events together.
04:31I would like to be a good friend to her,
04:33and I'm really hoping that we can hash this out.
04:41Whitney!
04:42Whitney!
04:43Whitney!
04:44Birthday girl!
04:45Birthday!
04:46Birthday!
04:47Birthday!
04:48Birthday!
04:49I can't believe this has this many rings.
04:51Shut the fuck up.
04:53Welcome to paradise.
04:55Oh, it's so cute.
04:57Whitney!
04:58Shut up.
04:59This.
05:00Ah!
05:13It's so cute.
05:15I got everyone matching sweats.
05:17Mom talk.
05:18Mom talk.
05:19Shut up.
05:20It's so cute.
05:22Whitney has come bearing gifts, matching sweatsets.
05:25It was so thoughtful of her.
05:27And I'm not going to lie, it's kind of refreshing
05:29to see this side of Whitney.
05:31Why don't we go in the Jacuzzi?
05:33Oh, my God.
05:34Oh, my God.
05:35Oh, my God.
05:36Oh, my God.
05:37Oh, my God.
05:38Oh, my God.
05:39Oh, my God.
05:40Oh, my God.
05:41Oh, my God.
05:42Oh, my God.
05:43Oh, my God.
05:44Oh, my God.
05:45Oh, my God.
05:46Oh, my God.
05:47Yeah, I'm cold.
05:48Let's go.
05:49I'm over it.
06:00I think my favorite thing about our group of women
06:02is that we all just like to have a good time
06:04and we just have so much fun together.
06:08So, is Zach with your kids?
06:09Mm-hmm.
06:10Okay.
06:11Yep.
06:12How's he feeling about being alone with them?
06:14I think Jordan's freaking out.
06:15I think Jordan's freaking out.
06:16He's like,
06:17are any of the nannies available?
06:18I'm like, you'll be fine.
06:19Stop it.
06:20Yes.
06:21So, he's not really the stay-at-home dad right now.
06:22Like, he's...
06:23No.
06:24I mean, he is,
06:25but I could never see him just being at home 24-7.
06:27Because, I mean, would Zach ever do that?
06:29Like...
06:30No.
06:31We definitely still have, like, our tough days
06:33where, like, we just aren't on the same page.
06:35Yeah.
06:36In his head, I think he thinks, you know,
06:37after 15 years, he'll be the provider.
06:39So, he's like, my job's more important
06:41because, like, I'm going to be providing for us for life.
06:43Yeah.
06:44So, he can't get there without you doing it now.
06:46Exactly.
06:47Yeah.
06:48So, that's where we, like...
06:49That is so hard.
06:50I'm currently the breadwinner in my relationship.
06:53I'm providing for my kids,
06:56my husband to go to medical school,
06:58and I definitely think this is super hard for him,
07:00coming from a traditional family.
07:02And they have good intentions,
07:04but it comes from a place, sometimes,
07:05of them telling you what you can and can't do.
07:07100%.
07:08And we're both strong women,
07:09and so I feel like we're like, no, like...
07:11But then it causes an issue.
07:12For sure.
07:13The male typically being the sole provider
07:16within our religion
07:18makes our situation a little bit tricky,
07:21and so there's definitely a lot of tension
07:24in our relationship.
07:25I used to be the person that would just say yes to everything,
07:28and now I don't.
07:29You're finding your voice.
07:30Yes!
07:31And you know what?
07:32Like, I'm like, I'm proud of that.
07:33I'm like, shoot, you better be making a lot of money by then.
07:36Yeah.
07:37Like, this better be worth it.
07:38I thought it was bullshit when Jen made this decision
07:40to uninvite us from the baby blessing,
07:42and I do think it was Zach behind that decision
07:44because I know Jen, she's very welcoming,
07:46and I think that Zach really put his foot down
07:48in this situation.
07:49But right now, she's opening up,
07:51and I'm feeling really optimistic
07:53about our friendship moving forward.
07:55By the time he's done with medical school,
07:57I'll probably be making more money than he'll ever make.
07:59No, literally.
08:00It's not funny.
08:01Like, you're like, my side gig actually provides for us.
08:04No, like, literally.
08:05What do you know?
08:06Like, literally.
08:07I'm having a moment.
08:09Let me shine.
08:10You need a moment.
08:12Before I get in line.
08:14We're working day and night.
08:17I don't know what I'm going to wear.
08:19What are you guys wearing?
08:20Well, I brought those to go with this dress.
08:22Oh, shiz.
08:23What?
08:24Not my garment.
08:26Oh, everyone, I have some information.
08:30The garment queen forgot her garment.
08:35I'm dead.
08:36Yeah, you know, the reason why I wear garments is
08:39when you go through the temple or when you get married
08:41and you've committed to this person
08:43and you've committed to God,
08:45wearing them is supposed to be, like,
08:47a constant reminder for you daily.
08:49Everyone, attention.
08:50Wait, you didn't pack any?
08:52She forgot.
08:53I tried them last minute.
08:55She forgot.
08:57We're going to get struck down.
08:59A male chef's coming tonight,
09:01so she will be wearing a load.
09:03Single?
09:05It might be time to pump.
09:07Wait, did you bring underwear?
09:08No, I literally didn't bring anything.
09:10Like, you don't have a thing.
09:11I don't have anything.
09:12Can you door-dash garments?
09:14♪♪♪♪
09:16Feeling so good now.
09:19Whoo!
09:21Dinner.
09:22Nice.
09:24Did you do this all yourself, Missy?
09:26I made this, everyone.
09:28Who's seeing the pair?
09:29Do you guys want to say a prayer?
09:31Yes, absolutely.
09:32We have a meal.
09:33Jen, you want to say the prayer?
09:35Sure.
09:36Dear Heavenly Father,
09:37we're so grateful for this day.
09:38We're so grateful for this time
09:39that we could spend together,
09:40and He's blessed us
09:42with food that will give us
09:43strength and strengthen our bodies
09:44and that we may have
09:46an amazing weekend.
09:48And I say these things
09:50in the name of Jesus Christ.
09:51Amen.
09:52Amen.
09:53Praise the Lord.
09:54Hallelujah.
09:57Whitney, are you drinking rose?
09:59It is.
10:00Want a taste?
10:02All right, are we doing
10:03a little cheers for Macy?
10:05For me?
10:06I'm happy because things look like
10:08they're going good so far,
10:09so I think we're all just hoping
10:11it stays that way.
10:12Okay, raise a toast for Macy.
10:15Macy!
10:16Cheers!
10:18Happy 21st!
10:21Happy 16th, Macy!
10:22Thank you!
10:23Oh, my gosh.
10:24Should we go around
10:25and do an I love you because?
10:27Oh, I love that.
10:28Yeah, let's do that.
10:29I love Macy because I know
10:30I could tell her absolutely anything,
10:32and she wouldn't judge me for it.
10:34Aw.
10:35She just gets my sense of humor.
10:37I feel like we're very,
10:38actually, we're not similar.
10:40We're actually quite opposite.
10:41But that's what makes it the best.
10:44You are just genuinely yourself,
10:46and I think you're amazing.
10:48You're blunt.
10:49You just say how it is
10:50to people's face,
10:51and some people
10:52will call that bitchy.
10:55But I actually really like that.
10:57I love all of you.
10:58Thank you for being here.
10:59I'm glad we could all come together in peace.
11:03My favorite thing to do,
11:04which is to eat.
11:05Guys, I have something for you.
11:07I have a little activity.
11:08Oh, no.
11:09Yeah, okay, everyone.
11:10I brought a truth box.
11:15This is full 100% honesty today, okay?
11:19I'm hoping we are able to share
11:22if there is existing tension,
11:24that we're able to be honest
11:25and work through those things.
11:27No, I'm going to die.
11:28This sucks,
11:29because this group of girls,
11:30even if this is meant to be, like,
11:32lighthearted and good intentions,
11:34it's not going to be.
11:36This is so stupid.
11:37Like, it's an anonymous truth box, really.
11:39If you really want to tell someone the truth,
11:41just go say it to their face.
11:43Demi's truth box,
11:44this is the worst idea I've ever heard
11:46in my entire life.
11:48So, in here I have cards
11:50that you're going to write a question on.
11:52And we don't know who said what, right?
11:54No, they're all anonymous.
11:55Yes, leave them anonymous.
11:57So, I'm going to pass out the cards,
11:59write it down on the card,
12:00fold it in half,
12:01and then just put it back in the box.
12:03Okay, here we go.
12:05I'm really not wanting to do this.
12:11I personally am excited for it.
12:13I don't have much to release.
12:16Everyone just kind of knows
12:17my dirty laundry already.
12:18But I'm curious to hear other people's.
12:20Okay, is everyone done?
12:21Should we go change?
12:22Yeah, let's go change.
12:23Let's put our sweats on.
12:24Sweatsuits.
12:25The whole intention of this truth box
12:27is to say the things that you want to say.
12:29And honestly,
12:30I want to clear the air with Whitney,
12:32hash out what we need to hash out,
12:34and move past this.
12:36So, who's getting the short straw?
12:38Who's going first?
12:39Saw my name.
12:40Layla, if you could sleep
12:41with one of your friends' husbands,
12:43who would it be and why?
12:44I don't know.
12:46I'm not going to go take Brett from him.
12:48He wouldn't even give me a chance.
12:50Are you kidding me?
12:51Look at his face.
12:52I would never.
12:54But theoretically,
12:55if you guys weren't together,
12:56I would find him like a treat.
12:58She's like, I'd be mom's stepmom.
13:00Oh my god.
13:01All right, next.
13:02Jen, which girl in this room
13:04would you go lesbian for?
13:05Probably Jen.
13:06Jen.
13:07Jen.
13:08Jen.
13:09Jen.
13:10Jen.
13:11Jen.
13:12Jen.
13:13Jen.
13:14Which girl would you go lesbian for?
13:15Prove it!
13:16Exclamation mark!
13:17Exclamation mark!
13:18Oh gosh.
13:19It's Kay.
13:20Kay.
13:21Kay.
13:22Kay.
13:23Kay.
13:24Kay.
13:25Kay.
13:26Kay.
13:27Kay.
13:28Kay.
13:29Kay.
13:30Kay.
13:31Kay.
13:32Kay.
13:33Kay.
13:34Kay.
13:35Kay.
13:36Kay.
13:37Kay.
13:38Kay.
13:39Kay.
13:40Kay.
13:41Kay.
13:42Kay.
13:43Oh God, oh my god, literally my mind. I'm like shit shit shit shit shit
13:57I
13:59Don't think I'm jealous of Taylor's clout. I think I was jealous of
14:05Forgiveness that Taylor got during that time of her whole swinger drama that I feel like I didn't get wait forgiveness for what?
14:12Just like the RSV video
14:20Two weeks after I had given birth
14:23Connor took Liam to our pediatrician the doctor is testing his oxygen levels and the doctors like these are
14:30Scarcely look like you need to take him to the hospital. You need to give him an emergency room right now
14:35So Connor rushes Liam to the emergency room the first couple of days were a bit scary
14:40But then he was getting better and
14:44so
14:45I'm thinking like let's you know, do something fun and I made a video
14:54In that video people felt that I was using my child's sickness for clout and for attention
15:00Everyone was so quick to forgive Taylor online or swinging and then I just feel like I still get
15:07Shredded to pieces almost every single video, but no, I'm not jealous of Taylor's clout and I feel like
15:14If I don't like her, I feel like that's a completely different conversation for a different time. Yeah, I am
15:20Very confused because I'm like girl you have no idea the amount of bullying
15:25threats and
15:27Comments that I have received on a daily basis up until today on how awful of a person I am
15:33So I think I got way more trash than she has
15:36by far
15:38It's so crazy to me that Whitney's not honest with Taylor about her feelings of jealousy because she is very open about it when Taylor's
15:44Not around and when asked straight to her face Whitney lies about it. Come on girl. The truth has got to come out sometime
15:50Taylor if you found out today that Dakota lied and actually slept with Jenna that night
15:54Would you leave him even though you were having his baby?
15:59100,000% would be dead to me
16:01Oh
16:03Wait, we need a little backstory. So we weren't like officially dating. He had originally slept with a girl
16:09Lied about it ended up telling me the truth. He was like, okay, like I'm so sorry
16:12I was like, it's good. We're not dating and then he went off with another girl, which is Jenna
16:16I asked him if like he slept with her and he said he only kissed her
16:19He's like sworn on his life because I said if that ever comes out that you guys did anything else
16:23I will leave you in like a snap of the fingers. So it's like so if you did just come clear now
16:28Yeah, and he's like sworn on his life that he didn't so even now even though that 100% wouldn't even be a question
16:34I'd leave in a heartbeat
16:37Okay, next question to me did you ever say that Jen is to Mormon
16:44I've never said she's to Mormon
16:47I have said that you bring it up in conversation a lot can't do that cuz did it or like can't wear that cuz my
16:54Garments or did it just brought up a lot?
16:57And to me that would stop you from hanging out with me. No being friends with me
17:02No, no, no, which is funny. You were giggling because you were the one that told her this obviously
17:07Yeah, or to me actually told me something about you recently. Yeah
17:11Yeah, something about being very Mormon and you guys both agreed. So agree. No, we did not
17:20Absolutely not. That's not a word. Well, we did that we did. Yes. No, we did not
17:27Ultimately, did I say that Jen is to Mormon?
17:30I did and I stand by that the question isn't what struck a nerve with me necessarily
17:37It was who I knew that information came from we were shocked. We were like really we thought you were friends with Jen
17:42I was friends with Jen, but then when I brought it up
17:44You said I totally understand where you're coming from. She can be that way. Did I say that Macy?
17:49Did I say that she wasn't I don't remember talk to Jen you guys work it out
17:54Don't say I'm gonna tell the story then don't talk to me. No, we're right here
17:58Okay, when I said it's a little bit annoying how it's like look at me
18:02I'm so Mormon and you said I totally get where you're coming from. She can be that way
18:07This is so stupid, please
18:09Somebody come in this door and shoot me because I do not want to be here anymore
18:14But what's so confusing to me is that you would rate yourself a 9 out of 10 on the Mormon scale?
18:19Yeah, I'm too Mormon for you
18:22Go around saying I'm hosting a BYU Mormon graduation. I'm wearing my garments for the 7,000th time
18:28I'm solid and who I am and I don't need to go around saying I am Mormon
18:32But I feel like often you will wear that as like a badge of honor and to me it's kind of gaggy
18:37It's just like frustrating is that you didn't confront me first and I feel like now you're like
18:42Notorious for doing this for a lot of people like calling Taylor white trash
18:46When
18:51Whitney told me that to me said I was too Mormon for her
18:55She also told me that to me called Taylor white trash Demi called Taylor white trash
19:04Kind of hard that's really hard. Don't you say I wouldn't say that I don't like to it
19:08It seems like you keep doing this and it's just talking about wait. So when did you call me white trash?
19:14Let me explain where that was coming from
19:16I had just gotten done explaining to the girls the night of the party that we came over. We're like super drunk
19:21So I don't even know if you remember this
19:23But you were like coming over kissing Brett on the head kissing me on the head like I love you guys and like being touchy
19:28No granted
19:29I knew nothing that was going on you started being super like
19:32Flirty with Brett and like laughing with him and leaning over the couch and I was like sitting there and I was like no
19:391,000% Brett was there I can confirm you were leaning over the couch and you were like
19:43Like laughing into him and you were like talking directly to him while I was sitting right there on the couch
19:48I was like watching you go from like husband to husband flirty, whatever
19:54I was like considered a swinger. So yeah, I'm in shock. No, but I didn't know that at the time
19:58So from my perspective, I'm thinking I got invited to a couple's party and this is trashy
20:03It's a complete shit show in the shitter the sewer does shit everywhere shit shit shit
20:09but honestly, I
20:12Love it, but it still doesn't make it acceptable to call. I'm not saying that shush
20:17What I'm saying is that I just sure no
20:20No
20:21I don't want to hear your judgment because you haven't even listened to what I'm saying and you were in the situation
20:25In that moment when I had just told everyone what had happened
20:29I feel like all those feelings came up and I just get kind of loose-lipped and I'm just like
20:32Honestly, yeah, a lot of what she does is trashy and like yeah, I'm not surprised that is trash
20:36So what else is trashy that I do then since a lot of it is well
20:39I mean the whole swinging thing was trashy. We got that down. What else? No, I know that's what I'm saying
20:44You're saying a lot of what I do
20:45know a lot of what we have seen like your tick tocks and like the
20:49What tick tock just tick tocks that were just super flippant about the swinging
20:54Situation and just like that whole era of your life the white trash from Demi hurts me
20:59Sure, I've done trashy things but right now she knows it's something I'm trying to work through
21:04I've been working through and so for her to take that jab at me
21:07Oh hell no, if you're gonna take a jab at me, then I'm gonna call out you for your stuff as well
21:11Do you think it's trashy to take off your dress in front of my boyfriend?
21:16What put your mic on? What are you talking about?
21:18You made him extremely uncomfortable because you dropped your dress to get Mike. No one else is here, right? Yes, come up. Oh
21:25I'm sorry. I literally already had my bra out when he walked into you know, I you dropped it
21:31We I watched you what? Oh my gosh, what is happening right now. This is exactly what I was afraid of
21:36I would rather give birth without an epidural than sit through this any longer
21:40You had your dress full on and you didn't need to drop it to get Mike and you took it off and it you were
21:44Just in your bra, you know Dakota felt so uncomfortable
21:48The intention matters definitely in that moment
21:51We were in a rush situation to get the mics on that
21:54I don't think it's trashy because I really you don't think trashy pulling off your dress in front of my boyfriend
21:59No, especially because I did if I did that to Brett that's not trashy. No because I was really oh
22:04You think I went like this Dakota? Oh
22:07I literally was turned like this and unbuttoned if you're worried about that. I'm not worried a problem
22:13No Dakota fell uncomfortable. He's like her her bra. Her tits are right there like that's a problem
22:19So if I go up to Brian take off my dress in front of him and he's looking
22:23Because the accent and look cuz it's like right there. That's that's a
22:27My problem the situation matters. I'm not the freaking swinger here
22:30I'm not the one that's going around trying to seduce other people's husbands. I'm not proud of any of these things
22:36I want to put my past behind me, but I don't know if these women are ever gonna be able to let go of my past
22:49Don't you feel like this is a conversation you guys should have alone maybe
22:53No, we're in the middle of this like I don't think you need you guys need to hash this out. Obviously
22:58People are out for blood. They are out for me specifically
23:02None of you are standing here clean and I'm getting pretty frustrated because Whitney was the one telling all this information
23:09Whitney who is your least favorite in the group and why?
23:14Honestly, I feel like right now it's to me
23:18I just like anything that any truth. I say you say no you agreed with me
23:23You said this I'm like, but I didn't say that. I
23:26Don't know. I just
23:28It's to me right now
23:34Love that that was my idea and I feel like I just got obliterated
23:40The intention was there wasn't it? I don't know about the truth box. I think a better name for this game would have been like
23:48Murder suicide
23:52Doesn't make any sense to me like you're literally gaslighting everyone right now you do realize that right?
23:57I never said that I never ever said that. Yeah, I'm just kind of mad. You didn't stick up for me me
24:02Yeah, what's what?
24:04Cuz you're in the car with me and you're like I didn't hear I was like, well
24:07I'm trying to remember what's going on. I don't know but you would remember if I said that
24:13But I said no we didn't when she first said that cuz I'm like I know for a fact I didn't I know but
24:18When I was like Macy like you're in the car with me. I
24:22Don't think that it's fair that Whitney is saying. I'm not supportive. All I do is support her
24:26We are only like three hours in to this trip and I'm already like I want to pack my bags and go home
24:32Like this is some fun. Everyone's screaming at each other. It's just like no you did say that and like can you just shut the fuck?
24:38She's like, well, I'll back you up if you have the conversation again. Thank you
24:43I
24:43want you to know that I am
24:46Not some phony person that like thinks ill of you that is talking behind your back
24:51It was a literal isolated moment
24:53and I feel like I had that resentment built up from you regardless of like
24:58How I was feeling like I should have addressed that with you so that it didn't fester, you know
25:02Yeah, it was a low moment that came out in a petty way and I apologize for that. It was not okay in any way
25:07Hmm. Yeah, thank you for saying that. I just I
25:11Know we're supposed to have a room together, but I think I just kind of want to sleep alone
25:15I get it. You take this room. You need to be comfortable. I'll go to the bunk beds for real. You sure? Yes
25:28Okay, good night I
25:30Regret using the words that I did and the flippant way that I did and I do feel bad for that
25:35I experienced hurt and she did too
25:38but my intentions are pure and they are good and I'm really really hopeful that we'll be able to move forward and
25:44Be stronger in our friendship than we ever have everyone say their prayers, please
25:57Nice what sides with you really quick so I can use this girl in there. Let me move my whole bag then
26:03Take two seconds you guys I'm here ready the party's started now. Whoo-hoo
26:09This is the beginning. Okay. Oh, we all are doing it. So like you do a move and then you walk
26:17Last night it was an absolute shit show. I really hope that we can bounce back from this because bitches. It's my birthday
26:24Okay, ready?
26:32I
26:41Love this
26:51Thank you
26:54I'm gonna go upstairs. Yeah, go get ready. No, I need you to come with me. Oh, see you later
27:02I
27:04Will hi guys
27:07This morning is
27:10Already uncomfortable because of last night
27:13There is animosity in the air
27:15but I think that Whitney and I definitely need to sit down and have a
27:20Conversation and I think it's the bottom of it. I'm tired of feeling this like uncomfort with group settings. Where should we go?
27:25They're all gonna live. This is comfy. Are you stressed? Yeah, I'm scared. Why I don't know. Don't punch me
27:31I'm not gonna like come at you screaming. I can't come at you
27:35No, I won't think screaming just I don't know. So I know you have some feelings
27:40About me. I like that's no secret
27:42Obviously, you know like start with the baby showers when I truly like figure it out
27:46But I feel like you're really good at telling people how you know about them straight up
27:50So I'm just curious like why I haven't been told I
27:54mean honestly
27:54I didn't tell you cuz I didn't feel like I needed to
27:56Because like I just I just felt like I was fine with where we were at
28:00I didn't feel like I wanted to explain it
28:02I just felt like that was an intimate thing for you and that was for close friends and family and I don't feel like I'm
28:07your close friend
28:09I'm confused on what I did. There's something that like sparked you to not like me
28:13I just was curious what it was right after the swinger drama came out
28:16I feel like I was like trying to cultivate a relationship with you
28:19Okay, I was trying to be there for you or try and include you because I know you were ostracized from that group
28:26I
28:28Don't know I just felt like it hasn't been reciprocated and I was like, well, I don't want to be friends with someone like that
28:33Then it's exhausting
28:36Probably girls down there that you're not besties with but you doesn't like I'm not besties with but I love it
28:41But I've definitely had more of a connection with them more than you but I feel like I've tried it's like in the beginning
28:47I was trying to have this connection with you and it was never reciprocated
28:50I want to be asked what happened with you and Connor like are you okay? Like I feel like I have
28:55Her issue with Taylor is her issue with herself
28:59Honestly, like I think it's just that she feels like she's comparing herself to Taylor and isn't living up to what the hype that Taylor's getting
29:06And so she's comparing and why is she getting the attention? Why is the public forgiving her quicker than me?
29:11I feel like I'm slowly putting the pieces together of who the real Whitney is and
29:17there are a few people in the group specifically Macy and
29:22Jen who haven't quite seen the puzzle pieces coming together and I think it's only a matter of time before
29:30the whole facade is showcased what she say like I was it frustrated that I
29:36Keep getting shit on my RSV video and like people forgive you super quick. You have a vulnerable sick child in your video
29:43I understand that back then like tick-tock was very different
29:46It was like you filmed everything and it was I just throw everything out and see what stakes but looking back. I'm like
29:51No, even that video when she posted it caught me off guard, but also that day
29:55She said that Liam was like doing a lot better
29:57so she was happy so she's trying to make like a happy video and like it just wasn't like what her intention was was
30:02Not what was received. She's like no my intention was to get likes and clout
30:08She admitted that to me I
30:10Never heard of it after their kind of means after our ketamine session Whitney and I did ketamine about eight months ago
30:17Which is a therapy or physical trauma or emotional trauma and coming out of ketamine
30:23You are feeling things very deeply
30:26Truths are coming out about yourself that you maybe wouldn't otherwise admit and in that moment
30:31She admitted to me that video that she posted was for sympathy likes clout and for recognition and to gain her following
30:39I think I even might have a video of her admitting that you're like, I actually needed this for blackmail
30:44In that moment, I just I
30:48Didn't want to hear anyone else's I just wanted everyone there to be for be there for me for just I'm actually glad I got
30:53Called out on that because now and I'm listening to people stuff and like I want to really but I also just want to kind
30:59Of like validate their feelings first and then maybe really you know
31:03but
31:04Why should be so nice?
31:07Yeah
31:08We need someone unkind to go break it up
31:11And Whitney tends to
31:14Dismiss your feelings or even gaslight you when you express that certain things happened and that you felt a certain way
31:22She seems to flip the script and somehow become the victim of her own chaos, and I'm sick of it. This is exhausting
31:29I'm cursed
31:36You push me a little bit too far Whitney, I'm gonna set the record straight at all costs
31:50Like I would love to be there for things you're excited about or you want like support there
31:54But I feel like when I told you my whole Connor thing I got zero
31:59Nothing wait zero from who everyone. I don't agree with that. I remember reaching out to you and being there for you
32:06Honestly, I don't even know why she's here. I don't even know why she presented herself in this conversation
32:11I'm just like what's your intentions? Let's talk about intention. What's your intention for being here in this conversation?
32:16I feel like Taylor doesn't care about me and I don't want to be around someone like that and it's as simple as that I
32:23Don't know how you expect me to work on this when I had no idea any of this and same with to me like
32:26But I don't expect you to work from this. That's what I'm saying
32:29I'll do all this just leave it as it is like now just leave it with the entire time
32:33I thought I worked on it, but yeah, I didn't care enough to say anything
32:35I didn't want to say you did to everyone else
32:38You'll bring other people's stuff up to other people like the Jen situation
32:42Like you'll take something that I said that I by the way told you not to say anything and you said I swear on my
32:47Life I won't say it. You're with the one that did the truth box. I never ever brought that up
32:51I told Jen and she can do with it. Whatever she wants to do with that
32:55Yeah
32:56But why did you feel the need to tell Jen like I didn't go to Taylor being like Whitney feels this way
33:00She knew that I don't know if you did I wouldn't care
33:03Okay, but you're sitting here saying that you don't care to have the conversation that you don't care to remedy these things
33:08But then you're gonna like shit on Taylor behind her back and then you're gonna come at me for something
33:11I said about how am I sitting on her everything? I've said about her
33:14I just said to her face right now just now but the last two years she hasn't heard a word of it
33:18We're the ones here that bother you. Does that bother you? They didn't tell you?
33:21Yeah, I bother me that you didn't come to my shower. Just tell me like, hey
33:23I I don't want to be friends with you. Like I thought we were friends
33:26So when you didn't show up, I was like, you know, I was a big deal
33:30Well, I don't regret anything. I'm glad I told Jen. I don't think that was wrong. I'd still do it
33:34Okay, well, then you're a shitty friend
33:38And then I guess don't be my friend, okay, I don't want to be your friend if that's the way you're gonna be
33:42That's not a friend. Did you not call Taylor white trash? Why was planning on dressing that to Taylor?
33:47Know what was that your place to say? It wasn't and you don't care. You don't give a shit
33:52I wish I could say I'm surprised by Whitney's behavior right now, but I'm absolutely not she needs to own it
33:58Apologize work on it and move forward. It's again one of these things where she wants to become the victim of her own behavior
34:05You're hurt and that's okay
34:07I've been there where you don't want to give a fuck but you're hurt from like you're hurt but in life
34:11And you're gonna take it on everyone. I don't get that. I get it. I don't want to talk about she's hurt you
34:16I've never hurt Whitney. Yeah, but I get like where and then runs away. So I guess I'm right. I guess I'm right
34:25comical
34:32Where'd you go
34:34In there, you're gonna like this shit be able to take it then me. Okay, the gloves are off, baby
34:43War has just begun and you better sleep with one eye open
34:46I hate the shit of you can dish it but you can't take it. I that's the shit
34:50I do not see him. I'd be a woman you little twat. What's going on? I
34:55Couldn't hear everything. What's wrong?
35:00She thinks it's her place to tell everyone other people shit. Yeah, are you okay? When is that ever been a thing?
35:07And then as we're having a heated conversation gets up cries and leaves
35:12The way that Whitney talks and changes her person up persona in the moment of like I did it
35:21Be yourself, yeah, who are you right different to us and then to her?
35:25No, it's it's like you want to talk about fake and behind people's back. Yeah, when do you scare me?
35:36You're hurt and you need space and that's like totally valid. How does it feel Whitney?
35:42I literally want to go ask her. How does it feel and I try to talk to you about it upstairs?
35:46You're just like and I do it again and I do it again. You're a bitch
35:51You are strong
35:53Doesn't mean you're not strong. It's better to walk away than to say things that you don't actually mean
35:58So you did the strong thing by walking away?
36:02Let's make this a group affair guys, you know
36:06Jesus
36:07Continue telling the people everything about anyone to me. Can you just get out of there?
36:12No, I won't know cuz you're talking about me. So no, I won't do me. She needs some space right now
36:16No, I just care. Where was she last night when she shit on me when I was literally getting attacked by everyone
36:22But you know, where was she? What was she doing to just respect that? What the fuck are you talking about Jen?
36:26Shut up guys. We're both going at each other. So why are you being so rude now? You're being a bitch. No, I'm not
36:33I'm not
36:34Two people right here sitting aside beside Whitney when last night was like the probably the most heightened
36:41Experience we've experienced in this whole journey and no one said shit
36:45Except for Taylor who we had the blow-up then we have a freaking minion fest over here minion
36:51Chihuahua fest
36:53Of two little puppies
36:56Like back off she's unstable you raising your voice isn't helping the situation. I mean, I'm not sitting here screaming
37:02I'm sitting here saying you're talking. I have a right to be upset. I'm frustrated
37:07I'm confused at where Whitney stands and I thought we were friends and that's not what a friend would do
37:11I feel like you don't even care about mom talk outside of posting just cuz I told Jen what you said
37:16You go around my whole group telling everyone's everything. I didn't say the white. Okay
37:21How Whitney will hear information and she gets close to certain people and we've kind of felt like it's a rotating door
37:28And it kind of feels like there's different people that get to be close to Whitney and when she says stuff about Taylor
37:34It's really mean behind Taylor's back. And then when it's face-to-face, she's like, oh, yeah, I get it
37:38And I just don't think it's fair that you can act that way and it's okay
37:41When it's not okay for to me to do like that just doesn't sense to me
37:45I feel like Whitney gets close to you until she gets what she wants and then she just moves on
37:48That's just my opinion and that's why I just wanted to sit you down so you can express all of it
37:52So I know with you like I know you're saying you're not caring but I find that hard to believe
37:57I think you want to I think I just hurt you really bad
37:59Maybe I can't be your best friend right now, but I could still hear in there be a friend to you
38:03Yeah, I don't even know what's right and what's wrong anymore. I thought that I was doing the right thing telling Jen
38:11This is Demi's feelings towards you
38:13It's a bit two-faced because then she's acting like your friend surface level, but then going behind your back
38:18I don't know. Oh, I don't know. It's confusing. I don't know what was right, and I don't know what was wrong
38:24Anything else from anyone this is your time
38:27Let it out. This is your time. I have something to say where are we supposed to go to dinner at 6? Oh
38:34Yeah, we have to go okay interesting going to a little dinner together
38:48Okay
38:56It's okay to feel that way
38:58I think Taylor was right low and she said that like you act like you don't care, but you do I know I
39:03Know you don't want to care, but that's what makes you beautiful and amazing that you do care
39:08So what I thought was gonna be an empowering weekend is now all in shambles
39:14I don't like
39:15Confrontation was in my friend group and at this point mom talk was already hanging by a thread before this trip
39:20And now we're having this happen. It's like don't want to be anyone's friend
39:24Why?
39:27Like what then I get close to people and then once I get what I want out of them then I move on I'm like
39:33What the actual fuck what needs my best friend, but I do think Whitney has an interesting way of handling things
39:39I definitely wouldn't have handled things the way she has and I think she kind of just like
39:44Leaves when things get hard instead of trying to really figure them out and at the same time
39:48I do think it's one of those things where we have to do some more work to figure out
39:51What's going on and not just run away from it?
39:54Happy birthday
40:14Oh
40:17Did we bring Macy's presents probably shut up
40:20You're like, I'm good. I didn't bring one
40:23Yeah, I think the fam don't flip anybody Taylor. I think the belly of people
40:28Especially in heels Jen knows what she's doing. Oh, it's the worst
40:36Great okay birthday girl. You have to wear this the whole dinner. Oh, okay
40:44Beautiful
40:53I'm honestly exhausted at this point. Like I'm so pregnant
40:56I feel bad for Macy because her birthday is being ruined
41:01I think there are times where you should just like kind of suck it up for other people
41:06So I think in this situation for Macy's dinner everyone just shutting up and let's enjoy the night for Macy
41:12Rub some dirt on it and we can cry when we get home
41:21Really good a vibe really but I didn't want to share with the table. I wanted it to be my meal
41:29It's a bit lonely when you feel like
41:32All of the friends that I thought I had I guess they're not really my friends
41:37I'm looking at Demi and I'm just like
41:39You're just you look like you're on fucking cloud nine right now
41:46At the P real fast
41:51Everyone is acting like everything's fine. It's sad
42:00I'm stronger than that. I can't even sit there
42:03No, I'll be fine. I'm just gonna pretend like I'm going the bathroom. Okay, I think I just need to cry for a second
42:08Okay, go ahead. I'm gonna cry and then I'll be okay. Okay. Okay. Do you need anything? No, I'm okay
42:18Should talk it out on the way here. Yeah, she's like I'm
42:21What you say?
42:24Bad too, but like things that she said and stuff too. Yeah, I get it. Trust me literally me last night
42:30I feel like she kind of needs to feel the sting of what her
42:34Actions can bring to people so that she understands what that feels like because it doesn't feel good like that's below-the-belt stuff
42:41So it's like Whitney. That's exactly what we're talking about. It doesn't feel good. Does it feel good? Okay, I hope you don't do that
42:46moving forward
42:49You want to do it and I'll hold it okay, I can do it I can do it
42:56Happy birthday
43:04I
43:08Know what I'm fucking in the wrong. I was fucking not wrong
43:18If this is what mom talk has turned into I don't want to do this anymore
43:22I don't even know if these friendships are worth fighting for
43:33My husband is going to kill me
43:37This is my lucky poker sweatshirt, he said you're playing poker. I don't know that being in Sin City is the best thing for Zach
43:48Like I haven't done anything wrong no
43:53Person alert he's out of control
43:55This is why the sisterhood of mom talk was created in the first place. She's at my age. She's not answering her phone
44:01I mean, maybe I watched too much true crime
44:10You still consider them friends should I invite Whitney
44:15Awkward mom talks not what it was and I don't know if it ever will be again. And why are you here?
44:21The one time I need support you're not there for me
44:24This is an act and I'm over it. This is exhausting. Cool. Did you hang up? Yeah
44:30Should I say something to her?
44:32You're trying to stir the pot between you and Taylor. I don't like him
44:37Everyone's getting married before their brains even develop. I did not invite him. This is for women
44:42Fuck me all week. Why do you mean then?
44:46Taylor yes. Yeah, my gosh, are you miserable? Yeah, it's not gonna get better. He's not gonna change you're gonna lose
44:53Everything I don't care