- 5/17/2025
The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 9
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00:00Jesse I'm in the closet in the closet. That's my second bedroom
00:09I brought you some cookies. Oh my gosh. Did you make these? Yes, wait, they're so I know you have a sweet tooth
00:16Um, literally, I'll be all of these today, you know going through a bunch of shit
00:20I mean, I figure Jordan's fat butt will be eating him. No, it's so true. We're gonna finish these by today. So
00:26Okay, wait, I know but New Orleans is like green and purple
00:30So for one of the nights, I'm gonna do like this. Isn't that you buy these for everything? Yeah, no
00:35Uh-huh. Mm-hmm a while ago. We decided that we wanted to go on another girls trip
00:39So I booked us a house and everything's set in stone, but after scenes and sinners, it's definitely awkward timing
00:46She doesn't think you're good at hair
00:48She told me not to go to you for hair and that's why I went to a different salon
00:50Talk to me cuz this is about me. Look me in the eyes you narcissist
00:53Look at me we talked about the way that you treat your your boyfriend. I'm gonna protect
00:59Your ever in this situation
01:02Let's take it there Taylor. There's still tension with a few of the girls, but the trip is paid for so we are going
01:07Hopefully we don't regret this
01:09Speaking of baked goods because you're so nice to bring me this and I got an update. I actually have to get surgery
01:15Oh my gosh, so getting the whole thing out
01:17I'm gonna do half and then the sucky thing is as they said they can't tell me if it's cancer or not till after
01:22The surgery like they won't know till they take it out
01:25But if I don't get it removed and it is cancer, it could spread to my lymph nodes
01:29How do you feel about it all?
01:31I'm like trying to stay positive because I do think that if you're sick
01:34If you dwell on it and have a bad attitude, it can make you worse like that's my belief
01:39Once the show came out I had a few nurses actually reach out to me on social media
01:43They all told me that I looked like I had an enlarged thyroid and I should get it checked
01:47It prompted me to make an appointment
01:49So I went to a thyroid specialist and they did an ultrasound and found that I had six nodules on this side one on this
01:56Side that wasn't large. Basically. We came to the conclusion that I should get a partial thyroid removal having this health issue
02:03Unfold it does put things into perspective. I think we need to focus on the bigger picture
02:07So crazy that I could just be living with it and not know though. So why don't you do it?
02:11Well, if you are gosh, damn, I don't think I would be like that. I know everyone else would be like
02:16No, I would like laying in bed all day
02:19Bring me food and rub my feet. You're like I'm going to Dallas. I'm gonna LA. No, I'm like legit
02:24Oh, no Orleans. Are you excited for the trip? I am excited. I feel like I'm curious. How are things gonna go?
02:31I just feel like the trip has more
02:33Opportunities to be explosive than not. I think I'm mostly worried about Demian Taylor Demian Taylor for sure
02:38And then I'm also just worried about like Demian the hair stuff
02:41I'm kind of like you're gonna just say really terrible things about me and then justify it. Oh, so yeah, I don't know
02:46I think I'll have to talk to Demian about it at some point. That's so messy. I'm sorry
02:49That's like hard because I feel like it like friendships, especially when it's like your best friend
02:53It makes it so hard because it's like you don't want to question them
02:55No, that should be the person you go to for things and like to vent that would have been hard
02:59Yeah, if like Michaela said about me I've been like, okay. Bye in mom talk from my perspective
03:04It's all about supporting women being there for each other. But right now it feels petty and honestly kind of toxic
03:11It just feels like the drama is becoming the cancer in the group
03:14So we're gonna have to have deeper conversations to work out those issues
03:18Yeah, wait, how would you handle this because you're really good at seeing both sides and I know that can be frustrating for us
03:24But I know you like how would you do it if Michaela was doing this to you?
03:27I mean Michaela did talk about this situation and she was like if you did that to me
03:30I would've been like you're not my friend anymore
03:45I'm the one you've been dreaming of
03:47I got everything you could ever want
03:51Try me and you'll see
03:53I'll bring you to your knees
03:55Baby, you're gonna believe
03:57Make us love, end the temptation
04:01Make us love, end the temptation
04:05End the temptation
04:14I can see it in my mind
04:30Do we ever have any other method of transportation?
04:32No, we don't. We just, we have to ride on a pole to get to our place or else it didn't happen
04:37Guys, where's the pole?
04:39I'll be at the pole, someone dance on me
04:44Can I like confess something to you guys?
04:46Yes
04:47After the Saints and Sinners event
04:49Um, I did a sage cleanse
04:51No!
04:52I would've too
04:53I would've too
04:54I can't blame you
04:55I'm dead
04:56Get these girls out of here
04:58Goodbye
05:00Goodbye
05:01This whole group needs a sage, seriously
05:04I really want to enjoy this trip but there is some unspoken tension between Demi and I
05:08We have not talked about what came out about what she said about Jay-Z styles
05:12So it's looming in the back of my mind that I need to pull her aside and hash it out because I'm really hurt by it
05:18Well, is it weird that the group's like down to seven right now?
05:22I feel small
05:23Kayla and I were together last night and Jordan got a call from Dakota
05:27And he was like, oh he told me Taylor's not going on your trip
05:30Like that's how we found out she wasn't coming and I was like, oh
05:32Yeah, I think she's just like not mentally able to do this which makes sense but
05:37Taylor's not here and so that feels a lot better to me
05:40I think she's kind of playing the avoidant game a little bit and for good reason
05:45I think she should be scared of me
05:47But I'm hopeful that Mom Talk will be able to kind of repair some of the friendships within this group with the toxicity not present
05:55I will say the energy without having Taylor here is nice
05:59Like not feeling like I'm walking on eggshells
06:01That is nice for you for sure
06:04I think it definitely sucks that Taylor is not coming on this girl's trip
06:07And now I feel bad because I told Taylor that I'm going to have her back at St. Ann's Centers
06:12And I didn't
06:13I definitely think that Demi is kind of at fault for the group's divide right now
06:16Taylor did wrong her in some situations but so did Demi to bring a child to it
06:21You just don't cross those lines
06:23But yeah, there's definitely some weird vibes right now
06:25Do you guys not feel that way?
06:27Do you not feel like that eggshell feeling around her?
06:30No, honestly, I feel worse because I thought that the blow up would be you guys
06:33And now that she's not here, I'm like, what's going on?
06:35Who is it?
06:36Yeah, who is it?
06:40Mikaela, it's Spoonkie
06:42Alright, let's go
06:43You guys, it's cute
06:45Wait, I love it
06:47The house is so charming and cute
06:49Like we're just really immersing ourselves with the culture of New Orleans
06:53Oh, fancy
06:55I feel like New Orleans
06:59What have I been saying?
07:01Princess Tiana says New Orleans
07:03This is your next info for your next hair extension
07:05Yep, these are my West
07:07This house is definitely very New Orleans
07:09And I wanted this experience to feel very genuine and authentic
07:12So I even hired a private chef to make us a very authentic Louisiana meal
07:16So we're going to really embrace the culture the very first night
07:19Oh my gosh, hello, nice to meet you
07:21I'm Jessie
07:23Oh Sam, Mikaela, rub elbows
07:25This house is amazing, look at this
07:27Oh my gosh
07:29Oh my god, it's beautiful
07:31Wait, I know, look at the mocktails
07:33Wow
07:35So on this side we have
07:37Fried chicken, grilled chicken
07:39Blackened salmon
07:41Garlic butter noodles, gumbo
07:43Nola style
07:45Crab cakes
07:47Shrimp and lobster mac and cheese
07:49Zucchini and squash
07:51I'm so excited, this is so fun
07:53Let me have a drink
07:55No, but like I want to
07:57But I'm breastfeeding
07:59All right, let's go get dressed really quick
08:01Get our rooms and then we'll come back down
08:05Hello
08:07The fog
08:09This is so freaking cute
08:11I know
08:13I want us to all be able to enjoy and have fun together
08:15But I'm also stressed out because I'm still hiding my pregnancy
08:17And I'm waiting for the right time to tell the girls
08:19Especially Demi because I know she's been going through infertility for a while now
08:21It is so like
08:23Emotionally draining
08:25Like it's
08:27Because you can't figure out
08:29Like what's going on
08:31It's more like how bad I want that
08:33With someone that I'm like in love with
08:39Demi is so fired up about Taylor right now
08:41That it just doesn't feel like this is the right time
08:43I've had literally one bite and I'm like
08:45Wait, this is the best food I've ever had
08:47Yeah, I took one bite of that shrimp and I was like
08:49Ooh, yum
08:51Did everyone get the video of Jen?
08:53What?
08:55Oh, she did
08:57I have not spoken with Jen
08:59Since our conversation where she stormed out
09:01And I know she's really spiteful
09:03Towards both me and Demi right now
09:05So I'm very curious
09:07To see what she has to say
09:09To all of us?
09:11Yes
09:17Did everyone get the video of Jen?
09:19What?
09:21Okay, hold on, hold on
09:23Okay, everyone be quiet
09:25Guys, excuse what I look like
09:27I just came out of therapy
09:29As you guys probably know, I'm pregnant
09:31And the first trimester is
09:33Absolute hell
09:35I've been in some of the darkest
09:37Um
09:39Places of my life
09:41And I'm focusing on
09:43Not only on my physical health
09:45But my mental health
09:47And in order to protect this baby
09:49I feel like
09:51It's important that I stay at home
09:53And get some rest
09:55I've been hurting
09:57And because of that I think
09:59I've maybe hurt some of you
10:01And I'm really sorry
10:03Oh my gosh, I'm sorry
10:07Anyways, love you guys
10:09Hope to talk to you soon
10:15Alright, so what does everyone
10:17Think about that?
10:19I feel like
10:21It's hard because I feel like that trumps everything
10:23In my opinion, you know?
10:25I know what she's done and it's not discrediting
10:27What she's done to people in this room
10:29Because it's not okay
10:31But I think at the end of the day
10:33At least for me I'm going to prioritize
10:35That she's in that dark of a place
10:37And kind of like
10:39To have that take precedence
10:41In my opinion
10:43She's mentioned to me
10:45Like a handful of times
10:47That I treated Jessie
10:49And I want to apologize formally
10:51I'm open to talking to her for sure
10:53I definitely want closure
10:55Even if she was just like
10:57I was going through a shitty time and I did shitty things
10:59That's good enough for me
11:01Just tell me why and let's just hope it doesn't happen again
11:03I think it's great that you're in that position
11:05To give her enough grace
11:07Because I know it was a pretty bad blowout
11:09That shows a lot about your character
11:11Hearing all of the things that she said
11:13Made me realize that she's been
11:15Struggling more than I thought
11:17My heart does go out to her
11:19I'm glad to hear that she's getting help
11:21And I think I learned from our fight
11:23That I never want that to happen again
11:25I wish I would have handled that better
11:27It goes against everything we stand for in mom talk
11:29We want to be honest with each other
11:31And have those hard conversations
11:33But we should never be yelling at each other
11:35And I'm disappointed that I did that
11:37So when she's ready I will totally have
11:39Like a calm conversation with her
11:41And I really do hope that she's getting the help she needs
11:43I have a hard time with someone who's sitting there
11:45Being like I've been working on myself
11:47I've been coming so far
11:49Things change though, like in a week and a half
11:51They can, I don't know that I totally buy it
11:57First of all crying videos
11:59Will never not be weird to me
12:01I think it's so strange to like film yourself
12:03Crying and I think it's like
12:05A little bit manipulative
12:07And a little bit cowardly still
12:09Like I understand you're going through a hard time
12:11I know you're mentally struggling
12:13But I think also follow it up with a text
12:15To the people you have real issues with
12:17And
12:19I just don't think Jen's capable to be honest
12:21It does make me hesitant to tell
12:23Her anything though
12:25Because it's a pattern of like
12:27Digging up the past
12:29I feel like at this rate I'm hesitant to tell anyone in this group anything
12:31I'm being completely honest
12:33I don't know just because I'm seeing you know
12:35Like Taylor's situation and you guys
12:37Anything you say will be taken into future argument
12:39I feel like that's what I've noticed
12:41Like in certain arguments that I've seen
12:43That makes me not want to say or ever be vulnerable
12:45Let's also not demonize the whole group
12:47Because there are a lot of like valuable
12:49Friendships in the group that like people genuinely
12:51Do care
12:53I think it's a little harsh of Demi when we don't know
12:55The severity of what Jen's going through
12:57Her mental health right now
12:59And so I'm just a little bit more hesitant
13:01When it comes to trusting Demi
13:03Like there's people within the group that I think you genuinely
13:05Can trust and
13:07But like because I'm seeing it happening so frequently
13:09I'm like oof
13:11Like it like scares me
13:19Oh there's the vibe
13:21On the freaking balconies
13:23I'm so excited
13:31New Orleans is known for its nightlife
13:33So we cannot come here
13:35And not go out on the town
13:37So I arranged for us to go to a burlesque show
13:39I did learn my lesson from Chippendales though
13:41I'm not going to spring anything on them
13:43I'm going to warn the girls what we're doing
13:45But I think this is going to be a really fun way to experience the culture
13:51Hello my disco creatures
13:55The only burlesque I've seen is
13:57The Broadway Moulin Rouge
13:59And it was so much fun
14:01The tassels, they had the cute outfits
14:03So I'm just excited to have a fun time
14:13This is definitely not what I thought
14:15The show was going to be
14:19I'm a little scared
14:21I'm going to have PTSD from this night
14:23Yeah this is not what I was thinking
14:25A burlesque show was
14:27If I'm being honest
14:29I did not think I was about to see
14:31The witch, the wooch, the titty
14:33All of it
14:55Leila she pulled it out of her vagina
14:57What are you doing?
15:01Cut it from the show
15:03I regret everything
15:15Leila open your mouth
15:17It was Demi's fault because she's like Leila
15:19And I was like oh no I forgot it came out of her vagina
15:23Honestly I would have judged you more if you didn't
15:25You're welcome
15:27There could have been bodily fluids
15:29She could have had a yeast infection
15:49Hello
15:51Hey
15:53How's it going?
15:55What are you guys doing a puzzle?
15:57I'm so excited
15:59Miserable
16:01Why?
16:03I don't do these kind
16:05I do puzzles all the time
16:09After that whole situation
16:11At Saints and Sinners
16:13I am not in a good head spot
16:15Demi brought up the low point of my life
16:17To bring that up was
16:19Insane
16:21It's very triggering
16:23I know you're hurt at me right now
16:25Um
16:27So you know the Saints and Sinners party
16:29Did I tell you about that or no?
16:31So I already knew that Demi was ready to
16:33Come at me because she felt strongly
16:35About the situation and obviously
16:37We were going back and forth
16:39What situation?
16:41My post
16:43She's saying
16:45Dakota and I are in a toxic cycle
16:47And so it's like if you want to go there
16:49Just know that you could potentially ruin
16:51Someone else other than who you're trying to ruin
16:53Like shut up
16:55She's like a bully
16:57She is literally a bully
16:59I'd go to war
17:01If you poke at me it's straight to war
17:03There's no petty
17:05It's just straight to war
17:07She's a
17:09C-W
17:11C-W
17:13C-W?
17:15What are you saying?
17:17What is a C-W?
17:19She doesn't know how to spell
17:21This is such like a
17:23Personal thing that I've
17:25Gone through
17:27It went freaking on the news
17:29Everywhere and it's just like
17:31I'm doing all the work that I can
17:33I mean he's been out of my house for like
17:35Almost five months now
17:37We've been going to major therapy
17:39Trauma therapy
17:41I'm doing everything that we can to become better
17:43In protection of our families
17:45Do you think that any of the other girls have your back?
17:47I mean like
17:49What's going on with Macy?
17:51I don't know
17:53And Mikayla
17:55And Layla
17:57Layla kind of just goes with the wind
17:59She's just young
18:01Yeah and Miranda really doesn't say much
18:03I'm surprised Miranda hasn't stuck up for you more
18:05Because she doesn't have a backbone
18:07Yeah that's sad
18:09So they're all going on their trip and then
18:11Yeah
18:13I don't want to be around any of it
18:15I don't care about mental health
18:17I think it's better to stay here
18:19Keep going to therapy
18:21Be with my kids
18:23I'd rather do that
18:25I'm tired of everybody
18:27If anything you've been a great friend
18:29To all of them
18:31And I don't know how they can't see that
18:33You created mom talk
18:35I don't care what anybody says
18:37Whatever
18:39You are the person that started it
18:41You're the one that welcomed all these girls in
18:43They're going to resent me if they keep hearing that
18:45I love mom talk
18:47But right now I do feel like I don't know who I trust
18:49I don't know what is said behind my back
18:51I don't know where I stand with them
18:53I just have felt alone
18:55If we learned anything
18:57Just trust your gut
18:59Okay
19:01Mine was literally saying
19:03Leave your relationship
19:05Something is not right
19:07Every single day I knew specifically where it was wrong
19:09And I
19:11I was like
19:13Didn't listen
19:15But I mean you did have your mom, your dad
19:17Your sister, your friends
19:19All saying something's off
19:21Something's off
19:23Why are you with Dakota and asking you
19:25And you always just
19:27No because mom and dad ended up really liking him
19:29They're like you should work things out
19:31Don't give up easily
19:33That's after ever though
19:35I like Dakota
19:37I'm not saying anything bad
19:39Don't
19:41Yeah it's really sad
19:43Do you pray?
19:45All the time?
19:47Lately I've been like please help me through this
19:49Because this is really hard
19:51I think that's just how life is
19:53Because you're going to keep going down the same cycle
19:55Until you say I'm going to change
19:57I need to change something
19:59You need to change
20:01You need to change it
20:03Only you can change it
20:05I can tell you a million trillion times
20:07Only you can change it
20:17I'm seriously so tired
20:19I'm going to go to bed
20:21To the living room we shall go
20:23Hello
20:25Welcome
20:27This is such a cute situation
20:29Act like we're friends everybody
20:31I'm like we like each other
20:33Hey Miranda
20:36Tonight was the most humiliating thing of my life
20:39But with all the drama between the girls right now
20:41There's a lot that we need to talk about
20:43At least I'm a little bit high right now
20:45To make the pain a little bit less excruciating
20:47Actually to me
20:49There's been something that I've been wanting to ask you about
20:51Do you see yourself ever
20:53Being friends with Taylor again?
21:01I just don't see
21:03Her being able to take full accountability
21:05And I don't think that she has
21:07Like the emotional
21:09Maturity to
21:11Have like a deep
21:13Meaningful friendship
21:17My answer is no
21:19What's your status with Whitney?
21:21More so just
21:23Repairing I think
21:25We're all kind of confused about
21:27Demi's relationship with Whitney
21:29There's been so many times where Demi came to me being like
21:31You need to just give up on Whitney
21:33Like be done with her
21:35And now I know that they have been getting closer
21:37It's so frustrating to like
21:39Have the narratives be spun
21:41And look how it continues to happen
21:43Like I have to walk on eggshells around you
21:45And Whitney definitely got defensive
21:47For Demi
21:49Okay should we just have the resolution
21:51Of the petty IG post and move on from it
21:53No truly
21:55That was weird
21:57Right now with her
21:59I was talking to her today about just the whole Taylor situation
22:01And I think we've like been able to like talk about it
22:03Because we feel very similarly
22:05And it's been nice because I'm like okay
22:07I kind of felt a little bit alone
22:09And how intense I was feeling about everything
22:11And she was like no I totally see what you're seeing
22:13Like Taylor doesn't know how to be a friend
22:15I've tried to go to Taylor and express things
22:17And it's shit on
22:19Well do you feel like you're being chummy with her
22:21Because she's going against Taylor
22:23And it's almost like an ally in that situation
22:25I'm not commiserating over something just because it's Taylor
22:27I don't feel this way because I think that we all should to a degree
22:29I'm extremely frustrated
22:31To have to even have this conversation right now
22:33Taylor is the problem
22:35How can you not see that
22:37How do you feel
22:39I feel like a lot more intimidated by her
22:41Do you guys ever think about like where Taylor would be
22:43And what she'd be like right now if she had never met Dakota
22:45I think she thinks about it all the time
22:47I can't imagine that's probably why like she feels so erratic all the time
22:49I hope that like both of them
22:51Hasn't she always been that way though
22:53And like toxic
22:55I feel like she has the tendency more often
22:57Ever since the whole swinging thing
22:59Like I feel like Taylor was a lot more mellow
23:01For sure
23:03Well I can't imagine if she would have not dated him
23:05Didn't date anyone for a year and just healed
23:07From the swinging stuff, the divorce
23:09I feel like it would be a completely different situation
23:11I think that she chases chaos
23:17I feel like Demi is playing a game
23:19Of who can stab the knife in deeper
23:21And twist it harder
23:23I just feel like she's losing perspective
23:25Of what really matters if mom talked
23:27Well I think I'm gonna go to bed
23:29Love you guys
23:31Thanks for my massage
23:37You are kidding me
23:39My heart's in my ass
23:53What's on the menu
23:55What a wild night
23:57Rise and shine
23:59There you are
24:01Now she's ready for breakfast
24:03I'm starving
24:05I have a surprise
24:07What is it
24:09We're gonna play a little game for breakfast
24:11Oh no
24:13Is that a pregnancy test
24:15We're gonna play pregnancy roulette
24:17Shut up
24:19You're on everyone
24:21This makes me think that someone's pregnant
24:23I instantly have anxiety
24:25Because I was not planning
24:27On telling the girls yet
24:29Or at least in this way
24:31I have a whole plan on what I want to do to tell the girls I'm pregnant
24:33But this is definitely not it
24:35Just for fun
24:37Is someone pregnant we don't know
24:39I love this game on TikTok
24:41The reason why we're doing this is because I'm late on my period
24:43So we're gonna do this
24:45This is a cruel prank
24:47Because what if someone is and then it's not me
24:49This isn't traumatic at all
24:51I don't cry every single time I take a test and get a negative
24:53Brett and I have been trying to get pregnant
24:55For about four years now
24:57And so I feel like I'm gonna throw up
24:59It's like evoking all of these emotions in me
25:01And triggering me to my core
25:03My least favorite thing to do
25:05Is take a pregnancy test
25:07I'm gonna get a bowl
25:09Everyone's gonna go take their test
25:11And then you're gonna put in the bowl
25:13And we're gonna all pick it out and see
25:15And it's gonna be funny
25:17I'm the one that's ready
25:19You're pregnant one month postpartum
25:21I better not be
25:23That's for sure
25:25Irish twins
25:27I mean there's gotta be a positive
25:29One of us is bound to be pregnant in this group
25:31At all times
25:33It's not me
25:35It's definitely not me
25:37It better not be me
25:39Wait this is nerve wracking
25:41I'm a little anxious now
25:43Are we pregnant?
25:45I'm nervous
25:47That one's safe
25:49Wait
25:51Oh negative
25:53Put it on there
25:55Negative
25:57Wait
25:59I literally peed and I brought it up
26:01Oh shit I'm pregnant
26:03I'm so nervous
26:05No you're kidding I literally got one
26:07Ahhhh
26:09You guys
26:11I knew it
26:13Oh
26:15I'm like
26:17What?
26:19Stop looking at me I don't know
26:21I didn't look
26:23I'm screaming
26:25Who's fucking pregnant?
26:27I'm gonna cry
26:29Who is it?
26:31Holy shit that is a dark ass freaking line
26:33Whoever hears pregnant is like pregnant pregnant
26:35I'm feeling Miranda's very soft
26:37I am too
26:39Look at why she's laughing and putting her face down
26:41She's so confrontational
26:43Everyone's shocked
26:45I'm like oh my gosh what it's a positive
26:47It's cause I genuinely feel so panicked
26:49That's wrong
26:51This is criminal
26:53Now we don't know who
26:55Wait I'm sick
26:57Oh my god this is criminal
26:59I have to get ready I'm nervous
27:01Negative
27:03Holy shit
27:05My heart's racing
27:07Negative's on the track
27:09It's one of us
27:11Who is it?
27:13Oh no there's four
27:15I genuinely am so
27:17No
27:19You're kidding
27:21Shut up
27:23You're lying
27:25Ahhhh
27:27No
27:29You're lying
27:31Guys
27:33Wait I'm gonna start crying
27:35Guys
27:37This is actually really sad for her
27:39I know
27:41Who's gonna save me now
27:43Oh my god
27:45Who's gonna
27:47Who's gonna
27:49Save me now
27:51Who's gonna
27:53Save me now
27:55Who's gonna
27:57Save me now
27:59Who's gonna
28:01Save me now
28:03Who's gonna
28:05Save me now
28:13I'm sorry
28:15Is this triggering
28:17Is this this really triggering for you
28:19Ok
28:25Ok sorry
28:27Good it's ok
28:29I can't even explain how
28:31Deeply
28:33feeling in this moment initial reaction is like holy shit I'm pregnant and then
28:38I'm like wait no there's no way this is that you're pregnant like there's no way
28:42all you get is negative test two people are pregnant who is it if someone
29:01actually knows they're pregnant or two people like this isn't fair to her like
29:04we have to yeah yeah there's not that's not okay I genuinely don't know what to
29:12do I feel horrible for her but also like this was not how I was picturing telling
29:17everyone I was pregnant because now it almost feels like a bad thing to be
29:20pregnant in this situation because some of the other girls were like if it's you
29:23who's pregnant just say something I was like well now I don't want to say
29:26anything now I almost feel ashamed that I'm pregnant just feels like such an
29:31awkward weird situation and this is the exact opposite of how I wanted
29:35everything to go
29:37I want to cry no don't cry you can't control that what happened
30:07I know it's hard to because it's like you know I feel like you can't be
30:13excited I know I know this is not how I saw myself announcing my pregnancy to
30:20all the girls but it's true I'm pregnant you know I love the tea give me
30:28the teeth another member added to mom talk no one else is claiming the second
30:44pregnancy test so I'm like well I'm definitely not gonna speak up especially
30:47now that Demi's like sobbing and everyone's consoling her this is also my
30:51moment that I don't want to be taken away from me and I also want to be
30:54sensitive to how you're feeling I feel like this whole situation is just so
30:58awkward it was a weird situation though I was like what can you do being like
31:02it's me like you're gonna be it's awkward it's like shameful dick it's me
31:17even though Demi and I are going through some issues right now it's
31:28devastating to see her react this way she's opened up to me about her
31:31fertility journey and I've seen so much of that emotion and heartbreak so seeing
31:35this reaction is so hard to witness and I really hope that she's okay I try so
31:40hard to consider everyone's feelings and like I feel like people are so flippant
31:45about like things that like bother me and I'm just sitting there like as
31:49someone who cares so much about people I'm just like Frank does anyone care
31:53about me like that wasn't a trick anyone was playing on you but I think it was
31:57just really terrible timing eyes are now puffy sorry that ruined the mood do you
32:11want something make you happier sure think about it
32:15well who's pregnant I don't know sit to me it's me no it isn't it's me are you
32:26no I'm not you've been doing IVF the whole time and you didn't tell me how
32:35long are you I'm two weeks behind you I think how did I not know like we've had
32:51shared a room so many times and she's been like injecting herself she has
32:56like all these shot patches on her arm or something and I just never picked up
32:59on it and then she tells me how far along she is and she's literally two
33:05weeks behind me so I'm just so happy that we can go through it together
33:08my gosh we know nobody really did I was so wrong well congrats what is it you do
33:28I knew it okay let's redo because I feel bad that was my reaction I know no one
33:34blames you and that was awful for you yeah so many things are going through my
33:40head I was like oh my gosh it could I be yeah that's why I'm gonna take
33:45another one I was like oh shit this is so exciting for both of them and how fun
33:49that these two best friends get to be pregnant together that's like the
33:52ultimate dream and as I'm like feeling excitement I'm also feeling so stupid
33:57and so bad that I made that moment about myself meanwhile I'm like devastated is
34:02this ever gonna happen for me I was like I think it's me like oh my god okay
34:07it's going to be you though it's right okay well you have to be ready in like
34:1330 minutes
34:22I know you eating your cracker since I've talked to my family I've been
34:27thinking a lot and I know I need to give Dakota an answer on this ultimatum the
34:32decision is so hard because yes I love him but there is also the side of like
34:37he does trigger me I'm so tired
34:43he pulls aside out of me that I don't necessarily like like of myself and I
34:49feel like the last few years have been the hardest my self-worth went down and
34:55I feel like that's where I'm still like stuck so even though I've been fighting
35:00to keep our family together because that is what the church teaches if I've
35:04learned anything throughout all of this it's to put my children first and so I
35:10know I need to end things with Dakota for good and completely let him go I do
35:16feel peace with that decision I do not see me ever getting back with Dakota
35:30you
35:37my feet already hurt standing here whoa watch out for the rock don't give me a
35:43theme this is our first test if we can walk you guys today we have a day of
35:48sightseeing I'm so excited because New Orleans has always been on my bucket
35:51list I've heard this place is just magical and has so much to offer so I'm
35:55so excited to explore
36:04it's like today something's like that I'm aware I'm aware oh look there's
36:17cafe de mon oh my god
36:26Oh
36:31this is my main food group
36:37that's insane that's what an orgasm feels like
36:45look at the little market this is cute
36:50they actually have some really cute jewelry I was looking at some of them
36:54for tomorrow night I was like it was some of the black pieces I've been
36:57waiting for the perfect opportunity on this trip to pull to me aside and talk
37:01to her about what she said about my salon and my business I think this is
37:04the perfect opportunity I've just been dreading this conversation because I'm
37:08really hurt by it I don't understand why my best friend would say this about me
37:12and something I'm so passionate about and it makes me wonder if I really know
37:16the real to me no but I thought we should talk a little bit I guess my
37:20question for you is what actually happened on the phone call is Taylor
37:24told me a version but I want to hear your side too obviously yeah so like the
37:28way that she was making it sound was like Jesse's terrible at color yeah do
37:32not go to Jesse like they're awful which I never said that how do you feel about
37:37it and like we're well she was you know telling you she was gonna come to me and
37:42your immediate thing was like wait hold on don't go there so for me that's
37:45hurtful to hear because it's like she was telling you she was gonna come to me
37:48and like your immediate thing wasn't to just be like oh you're right like she
37:52has a full salon that's well known over the country like it's not like I just
37:54opened a one-chair salon I'm doing my best like I just it almost like you were
37:58taking business away from me and so it just was like oh to hear that especially
38:03after everything I've done for the girls in this group free hairstyles free hair
38:07every time you need I curl all of your fucking hair every time we go anywhere
38:10like I just feel like I get so taken advantage of like it just sucks that I
38:14do everything for everyone and like like sucks I'm bent over backwards to
38:19try to make everyone in this group feel good and I never get that respect back I
38:22feel like I never get anything back and I hope you know that my intention and
38:27even with what I said was not shitting on your business it was like it feels
38:33that way for sure I hear where you're coming from and I understand but I want
38:36you to know that the way that it was spun and twisted like her saying that if
38:39you go to Jay Z plan to cry or whatever if you don't want to cry don't go to Jay
38:42Z yeah that was never said and it wasn't said in that way in this moment I
38:47am feeling betrayed and kind of deflated hearing her explanations makes me feel
38:53worse to be honest because I don't think she means her apology she's blaming it
38:57on other people so that has opened my eyes to a lot of things and it does make
39:01me wonder if Demi is the cancer in this group I think I'm gonna put a wall up
39:06and keep a little distance from her moving forward mixing friends and
39:09business is really hard it is hard for her
39:32I had to pump my milkers your milkers oh we didn't show you guys the poem we had
39:37written about mom talk any poem any topic
39:42friendship friendship crossroad where friendship collides walking through time
39:48ringing our sacred bells we found each other when the timing was right this is
39:51our journey this is our flight sounds like a witching spell
40:07in the Mormon Church once a woman turns 13 we have this thing called young
40:26women's that you go to young women's basically is learning about the church
40:29they also do activities that you can bond with other girls and bring them
40:33together and form a community it's so weird to hear it like that though cuz
40:36like having it in a chant like that like we are cool like that sounds so
40:40crazy have you ever been to the temple of course I have oh I forgot your first
40:45marriage in Latter-day Saint religion the temple is very sacred and holy and
40:52you need to live a certain way and you go through an interview process through
40:58your bishop to be worthy to enter the temple okay here's the thing I don't
41:03believe but if I did you don't believe any of it do you believe the afterlife
41:07of it yeah in a sense like some of it for sure I mean it's for Christian
41:12values yes exactly much like resonate with the core Christian values but like
41:16they weren't uniquely Mormon yeah yes exactly that's how I so you don't
41:19believe that the Book of Mormon is true yeah I feel like how do we really know
41:24like hey there were no phones back then there's no proof but what I was gonna
41:30say is I don't really believe but this freaked me out is when I was trying to
41:33get my ceiling canceled my bishop was like yeah well if you if you don't get
41:36it canceled technically like your son's sealed to your ex cuz it's his DNA and
41:40you're sealed to him and I was like you know like that change that doesn't
41:43change he's always sealed to him even if you break it within the church if you
41:47don't get your ceiling broken your ceiling is your marriage then you're
41:50still married in the eyes of the church and they believe that after you pass on
41:53you're sealed forever so technically I'm still sealed to my ex-husband which
41:58means we would be together in the afterlife and I wouldn't be with my
42:01current husband part of the reason it was really hard for my family when like
42:04Chase first left the church was because Chase had like removed his records
42:07which means that I'm no longer sealed to my children because essentially you need
42:11a man in order to have eternal like multiple eternal families yeah why you've
42:18been through the temple right to me yeah has ever wait you have you have I have
42:23you have you have just have not have not no one day you want to one day if I
42:30married him I probably will for him for him I think that to me is definitely
42:40very harsh and I so over it going through the temple is something that's
42:45very important to him it's something that he's always wanted for himself for
42:48his future for his future wife for his future family so it's something that's
42:52important to me because it's important to him so I wasn't saying that I'm just
42:55doing this for cam I feel like I'm doing it for us no like I kind of want to like
42:59sit in my bed and bench out my phone for sex are we changing for dinner what
43:05are we wearing or just like casual
43:29we're going to the vampire apothecary for dinner and I feel like this is the
43:45perfect send-off from New Orleans because it's very vibey it's a part of
43:49the culture I don't feel like the Mormon Church really likes stuff like this
43:52drinking blood I'm not sure if that's against the word of wisdom but if I had
43:56to guess it would be a no but hey we're in NOLA so we might as well live it up
44:01well on my question for you since you're kind of like up and down with some of
44:05the people in the group are you gonna invite everyone to your Christmas party
44:07then like is that a mom talk event or no I'm throwing a little Christmas soiree
44:12for mom talk and I'm really excited I've put a lot of thought and intention into
44:17the night I am just hoping that it's positive and that we're able to end the
44:21year on a high note by having the people there that I feel like genuinely deserve
44:25to be there Brett and I are hosting that and he is like not he's equally as
44:30unhappy with Taylor as I am and to me it's like just hit the road
44:39I want to get you all started with our virgin blood bags right here also made
44:44with real virgin blood thank you but speaking of Taylor I'm curious to hear
45:00your thoughts on like if everyone feels like Taylor deserves to be here and she
45:05puts in the effort and the work and she's a good representation of what mom
45:09originally was meant to be like where's everyone's head out with that Taylor
45:18being a part of mom talk it's affecting us on a negative level and I'm not
45:22willing to have someone in the group that's willing to jeopardize the health
45:26of my business and tonight I really want people be like we understand where
45:32you're coming from like yeah we don't have any need for her to even stick
45:35around that's hard because I feel like there's times when things ebb and flow
45:41with everyone but also in health issues really put things into perspective so I
45:45just feel like if she did apologize and she's making changes I have to like okay
45:49what am I gonna do hold a grudge forever you take it how you will but as your
45:53friend that wasn't an apology and that was not humility coming in there and
45:57being like I genuinely want to change at that Saints and Sitter parties what she
46:02should have done is literally come in and say I fucked up she sat there and
46:08threw me under the bus and then you're gonna remain the leader of mom talk like
46:11for what because she's the one who started it but to see what she's capable
46:16of doing online to her friends and to people who have only loved and supported
46:20and been there for her is very problematic and like it hurts the group
46:24as a whole for me right now I'm just kind of at a loss because I do really
46:30want to give her the benefit of the doubt but I'm still coming from a place
46:34of hurt that I'm trying to heal so I think I'm just hypersensitive to things
46:39that happen now like with her CMA post at least we have this situation now to
46:43give context if she does it again after her apology at Saints and Sinners moving
46:48forward if anything else happens after that apology then I'm like okay and again
46:52and we have behavior to point to now that's like concrete that hurt all of us
46:54so yeah I mean chances like that do you give to someone before you go you're
46:58literally a psychotic child it's toxic as hell and for me as of now I'm kind of
47:05like if Taylor's in I'm out I'm not gonna be a part of mom talk anymore we
47:14all have differently relationships with her and I think it's not fair to kick
47:17her out I also think it's fair for you just to leave if she's in but mom talk
47:21we all move forward together in our friend group yeah you know what I mean
47:24would that be fair for me to do though with the Whitney situation if I was like
47:29well if Whitney's in I'm out but Whitney's life doesn't take over the
47:33group Taylor is so so self-centered and so selfish and to me it's like we've had
47:39Whitney here this weekend it's been great like that is you though if Taylor
47:43was here it wouldn't have been bad for me but it would have been bad for you
47:46well the level of the offense matters and to me I think that Taylor's more of
47:51a liability in this situation given the fact that she is the face do I think
47:55that Taylor has narcissistic tendencies a thousand percent but I'm still on thin
48:00eyes with a lot of the women so yeah I'm going to zip my lips but I do agree with
48:04to me and it's not that I need the spotlight but it's like is this a group
48:08of women empowering each other and taking the turns on the spotlight or is
48:12this the Taylor show I don't know I haven't felt that way it affects us when
48:17we go do events and who gets the opportunities and who gets interviews
48:23and stuff like that and for me I'm like why are we putting this person on a
48:27pedestal why are we giving this person opportunities some opportunities we have
48:31are sometimes cuz of her you know that's fine but I've learned too much about her
48:36now to continue riding the cloud like if this is part friendship part business
48:42like this were a normal business she'd be gone with the things that she's doing
48:46mom talk is way more than just business and work this is definitely a side of to
48:50me that I have not seen yet and I don't know if I'm liking it at this point I
48:54don't know what she's willing to do to get to the top so that's very concerning
48:58for me well I think what the situation with you and Jesse though you weren't
49:02supporting her business but she's so it's fine with that that's different how
49:05is it different we're all a part of the same business I'm not part of Jesse's
49:08business I know but you're but her best friend I wasn't her best friend at the
49:12time I am so frustrated right now it's like are we gonna do what's right girls
49:18what is mom talk if it's not on standing on business standing on what's right and
49:23creating an environment that's healthy and conducive to success I'm so so
49:28disappointed in everyone I feel like I'm on an island right now this is the last
49:32thing I'll say is that you guys do what you will with it but she genuinely
49:38tarnishes the what mom talk was meant to be I think to me wants to kick Taylor
49:43out of mom talk because Taylor's a threat to her and it's the easiest
49:46solution to that problem I don't know what's going on here but I don't want to
49:50have to choose a side I loved me and I think she's great but how many
49:53friendships do you know where you have to be voted out or in manipulating the
49:58situation to be like okay I'm gonna walk with Taylor's here is it fair to the
50:01rest of us I think that to me secretly wants to be the leader of mom talk but
50:07Taylor did start mom talk we're all here because of her I don't know what's
50:12gonna happen
50:18Denise said that like if you're in mom talk then like she would like leave mom
50:22talk what the hell is Leanne doing here let's get Taylor out of the picture
50:27because now I want to be Taylor she needs to go to therapy and she needs to
50:31go be a fucking mom I've done absolutely nothing to you what what have I done
50:36other than react to your poor behavior just a selfish bitch I'm honestly kind
50:41of worried I don't feel like mom talk right now is standing for anything that
50:45we originally stood for I feel like Denise lied to me and I don't want to say too
50:48much but more happened than what she's leading
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