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Rick Scott To State Department Nominee: How Can US Hold China 'Accountable' For Violating Deals?
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During a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing last week, Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) spoke about holding China accountable for violating trade deals.
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I will yield to you my friend. Thank you Senator Rosen. Well first off
00:05
congratulations on your nominations. Thanks for your willingness to serve. Let
00:09
me start with Ambassador DeSombrey. So as we know Communist China has, they've
00:14
decided to be our enemy. Their government is despicable. They're sending
00:20
fentanyl across our border killing over 70,000 people a year. They've never
00:25
complied with the trade agreement. The WTO, they steal our technology. The stuff,
00:33
many of the things they sent here are unsafe. If they violate any agreement,
00:39
there's no way to get recourse in China against them. So what can you do in this
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new role to hold Communist China accountable? And I think if there's
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anybody that can get a deal that makes sense with them, it's probably President
00:55
Trump, but I just don't believe them. I mean they didn't even comply with the
00:58
Trump trade deal in his first term. So what do you think you can do to hold
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them accountable? Senator, thank you very much for that question. I think you've
01:05
given a very good list of many of the challenges that we have with China. You're
01:10
you're definitely correct in the fact that they've been calling us their
01:12
adversary and enemy for a long period of time and it's taken us a while to come
01:15
to appreciate that and we need to deal with that. As I indicated in my opening
01:20
remarks, working with our allies and partners to enhance deterrence and
01:24
counter the blind activities by our adversaries, including China, is one of
01:27
our top priorities. I further agree with you completely that if we're going to
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reach agreements with China, we need to make sure that they actually follow them
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and the way to do that is for them to actually show us what they're doing, not
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commit to what they're going to do. And that's a challenge that we need to face
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and I'll be eager to work, if confirmed, on trying to solve that issue and I
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believe definitely putting pressure via our allies and partners of the region is
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one of the important elements. So it's my understanding you've done quite a bit
01:54
of business in Hong Kong. I have a friend, Jimmy Lai, who is a journalist who was
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wrongfully detained by the Hong Kong authorities, which clearly is doing Xi's
02:04
bidding. They've stripped Jimmy of his wealth. I think he's been in solitary
02:08
confinement for over four years. Given your knowledge and experience with Hong Kong and
02:12
the region and communist China, first of all, you're familiar with this situation and what
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have you been able to do and what can you do to help Jimmy?
02:21
Senator, thank you very much for raising that very important issue. I am very
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familiar with that. I'm very familiar with the fact that China is engaged in
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repeated violations of the Sino-British Joint Declaration that required them to
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maintain the high degree of autonomy, rule of law and democratic freedoms in Hong Kong,
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which have not been so maintained. I am aware of what has happened to Jimmy Lai and
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understand that President Trump has called for Jimmy Lai to be freed and should be
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freed. Is there anything else we can do? I think, though, thank you Senator for that
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question. There probably are the things that we can do and I definitely, if
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confirmed, we'll look into that. I think the situation in Hong Kong, I mean, from a
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personal note, is deeply troubling to me. I lived in Hong Kong from 1997 before the
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handover until 2020 when I moved down to assume the position as ambassador to
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Thailand. And there's a reason why I didn't move back to Hong Kong after that.
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And it's really, it's really personally deeply troubling to see what's happened to
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Hong Kong. It's not the place that it was before.
03:18
Mr. Pratt, I just got back from a trip to Europe and I met with military and elected
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officials in Denmark, Finland, and Estonia. And to a person, they complained about our
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foreign military sales and the fact that, I mean, one, they just can't get an answer.
03:36
They, you know, they've watched what Putin is doing. Now they're afraid that they're going
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to be invaded. So they want to build up their military. So one, they can't get a decision
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out of our government to allow them to buy the equipment they want to buy. And then number two,
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our manufacturers don't produce it on time. So in this role, what can you do to change that?
03:59
Thank you for that question, Senator. Certainly, I'm familiar with those complaints. And certainly,
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building up our partners in Scandinavia is critically important to countering the Russian
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influence. And I commit to, if confirmed, taking a thorough review of those issues and seeing how
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we can get those resolved.
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You think, well, you put time into understanding, like, there are, I mean, there's, it's pretty
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simple. There ought to be a streamlined way of getting this done. Say yes or no. When I'm a
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business guy, and what frustrates me about government is, just tell me no. If you're not
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going to sell it, if you're not, let me do it. I'll go sell it by sales. But what we're doing is,
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we don't tell them anything. We keep them in the dark. And then, then even when they get
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approval, they have no idea whether our manufacturers are going to show up and give and provide it on any
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reasonable period of time. So are you, will you, you know, are you going to work with both trying
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to streamline the process and get our manufacturers to actually do their job?
04:56
Yes, sir. And again, I'm familiar with those complaints. And very much committed to addressing
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them. And as you point out, part of that is working with industry to figure out what the problem areas
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are. Part of that's working with the Department of Defense to figure out how they can be more engaged.
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And certainly, I commit to working with both those partners to resolve this problem.
05:20
Thank you. Thank you, Chairman.
05:22
Thank you, Senator Scott. Senator, you're up.
05:27
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ambassador.
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