Join Johnson and McGovern as they break down the week’s top intelligence updates, global security developments, and key geopolitical events. Stay informed with expert analysis and insights on the latest from around the world.
#INTELRoundtable #WeeklyWrap #JohnsonAndMcGovern #IntelligenceBriefing #GlobalSecurity #Geopolitics #WorldNews #SecurityUpdates #ExpertAnalysis #CurrentEvents #IntelligenceNews #StrategyTalk #DefenseNews #PoliticalAnalysis #GeoIntel #MilitaryUpdates #IntelligenceCommunity #GlobalAffairs #NewsRoundup #Briefing
#INTELRoundtable #WeeklyWrap #JohnsonAndMcGovern #IntelligenceBriefing #GlobalSecurity #Geopolitics #WorldNews #SecurityUpdates #ExpertAnalysis #CurrentEvents #IntelligenceNews #StrategyTalk #DefenseNews #PoliticalAnalysis #GeoIntel #MilitaryUpdates #IntelligenceCommunity #GlobalAffairs #NewsRoundup #Briefing
Category
🗞
NewsTranscript
00:30Hi, everyone.
00:33Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom.
00:37Today is Friday, May 16th, 2025.
00:40It's the end of the day, the end of the week.
00:43It's everybody's favorite time of the week, and it's the favorite show for the overwhelming
00:47majority of you guys.
00:50Ray McGovern and Larry Johnson join us, as they always do, doing their double duty.
00:56Gentlemen, thank you very much.
00:58So we've had a very unusual week, guys, Trump in the Middle East enriching his family, leaving
01:04with a $400 million jet, although he didn't actually get the jet yet, condemning the neocons
01:11and snubbing Netanyahu.
01:13Larry, to you first, what's your big picture take on the events of the past week involving
01:20the president in the Middle East?
01:22That's like the joke you tell about what do you call a thousand lawyers chained at the
01:25bottom of the sea?
01:26A good start.
01:27All right, go ahead.
01:34This was a good start, at least when Trump took down the neocons, and then warmed up
01:46to Mohammed bin Salman.
01:49And what's fascinating is, you know, when you kick in a trillion dollars to the US government,
01:54you do get a lot of affection.
01:56So I think Mohammed bin Salman actually outspent AIPAC, at least for this year, with that trillion
02:02dollars and bought a lot of goodwill with Trump.
02:06And as a result, Trump said, hey, I'm lifting sanctions on Syria.
02:11The audience went wild, they erupted in applause.
02:15But then at the same time, later in that speech, Trump said, hey, let's get together on this
02:19Abraham Accord.
02:22Everybody sat on their hands.
02:23Abraham Accord, for those that are not familiar with it, is to get all the Arab Muslim countries
02:29in the Middle East to recognize and embrace Israel.
02:32And I'm sure that Mohammed bin Salman and the sheikh of Qatar and the Emiratis, they
02:39all told Trump the same thing.
02:41Hey, yeah, we'll get on board with your Abraham Accord, provided Israel stops murdering Palestinians,
02:50stops the genocide, and there's a two-state solution.
02:53I think that was an implicit message in that.
02:56Maybe that's the next step.
02:57Ray, before you weigh in on this, here is Donald Trump ripping into the neocons like
03:04I have never seen an American president do.
03:07Chris, cut number 11.
03:09Before our eyes, a new generation of leaders is transcending the ancient conflicts of tired
03:14divisions of the past and forging a future where the Middle East is defined by commerce,
03:20not chaos.
03:21This great transformation has not come from Western intervention, no less.
03:27The gleaming marvels of Riyadh and Abu Dhabi were not created by the so-called nation-builders,
03:33neocons, or liberal non-profits like those who spent trillions and trillions of dollars
03:40failing to develop – Kabbalah, Baghdad, so many other cities.
03:47Instead, the birth of a modern Middle East has been brought by the people of the region
03:53themselves.
03:54In the end, the so-called nation-builders wrecked far more nations than they built,
03:59and the interventionalists were intervening in complex societies that they did not even
04:07understand themselves.
04:08They told you how to do it, but they had no idea how to do it themselves.
04:12Peace, prosperity, and progress ultimately came not from a radical rejection of your
04:18heritage, but rather from embracing your national traditions and embracing that same heritage
04:24that you love so dearly.
04:30Just going to give you a little breaking news.
04:32The Supreme Court has just ruled 7-2 that President Trump may not use the Alien Enemies
04:40Act to deport people because none of them are from a country with which we are at war.
04:50Ray, your thoughts on what the President just said?
04:54Ever hear in the modern era, you would think in the modern era, you would hear a president
04:59rip into the neocons like that?
05:01No, you're right.
05:03This is unprecedented.
05:05It really shows that somebody on his staff is writing the right words for him.
05:11Those were not his words, we know that.
05:14Some of them he couldn't even pronounce right, Larry, but go ahead, Ray.
05:20At the same time, this administration is hopelessly divided, not only on the Middle East, but
05:27even on Ukraine, where you have Kellogg and Whitkoff, you have this divided empire here.
05:38How does that look to President Putin?
05:44I think that he says, well, let's deal with Trump while we still can.
05:50Who knows when, to use Putin's words, the men with the dark glasses and the attaché
05:57cases and the nice suit like mine, says Putin, come in and tell Trump what he has to do.
06:05With a divided advisory council, so to speak, half of them still neocons, is Trump going
06:13to be able to translate this rhetoric into concrete deeds?
06:18The first test comes on Ukraine.
06:21Will Whitkoff win over Kellogg, over the Secretary of State Rubio, over the traditional people
06:30who have been neocons?
06:33This started a long time ago, at the end of the 90s, the prospect for a new American century
06:38written for Netanyahu, of all people, and we've seen Iraq, we've seen Afghanistan, we've
06:44seen Libya, and Trump is fed up with it.
06:48Whether he can do anything about it or not, well, let's see who gets replaced next.
06:53After that fellow, what's his name, the congressman from Florida-
06:56Michael Waltz.
06:57Yeah, Waltz, who was a secretary, a national security advisor.
07:02I was going to save the heartburn for later in the show, but in light of what Ray just
07:09said, Chris, let's show everybody who's sitting next to Marco Rubio while he's negotiating
07:15with the foreign minister of Ukraine, none other than Senator Lindsey Graham, the prince
07:24of neocons.
07:25There he is with the Secretary of State Rubio, and the gentleman on the left, the taller
07:31gentleman, is the foreign minister, or defense minister, I'm not sure which, of Ukraine.
07:37Larry, why in the hell is he there?
07:41Just to make sure that that neocon project stays alive.
07:44Remember, Lindsey, let me put it this way, there is evidence that Mr. Graham's personal
07:52bank account has been augmented with funds that have come out of Ukraine.
08:00I'll leave it at that, but we're talking significant seven-figure income.
08:11My mistake, not seven figures, eight figures.
08:14You're talking felony and life in prison, if proven.
08:18Yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:21It's something that Ed Martin is actually going to take on, and that we'll see.
08:26Lindsey Graham's not a neutral observer here.
08:30The Ukrainians, I'll say this about Lindsey, the Ukrainians have got the best American
08:35senator that money can buy.
08:39I'm surprised.
08:40Actually, I've got to play this clip about money, because here's Lindsey Graham talking
08:46about the best money we've ever spent.
08:50It's 2023, cut number four.
08:52Big, big support, very important.
08:55The best money we've ever spent.
08:57Thank you so much.
09:00Let's see, this is 457th day of a war that was supposed to last three days.
09:09You amaze me.
09:10Your country amazes me.
09:13It's about our people, and about your people.
09:16Your people have our people, all our appreciations.
09:21You remind me of our better selves in America, that there was a time in America that we were
09:28this way, fighting to the last person, and we're going to be free or die.
09:35Free or die.
09:37Free or die.
09:38Now we are free.
09:39Yes.
09:40And we will be.
09:41And the Russians are dying.
09:42Let's watch the play another clip of Lindsey Graham and John McCain, but my stomach is
09:47already churning.
09:48Why would he be there, Ray McGovern, at the negotiations with Marco Rubio?
09:55What humiliates Rubio by dispatching Whitcoff to do the negotiation?
10:00Rubio was the Secretary of State in name only.
10:02Why are they forcing this warmonger, and according to Larry, Crook, onto him?
10:09Well, first I have to ask Chris why he put the Dunst's cap on him, but I think that was
10:14just an arrow to point out.
10:17It's an arrow.
10:18There he is, yeah.
10:22It's unreal.
10:23You know, Lindsey Graham is famous for bone-crushing sanctions, right?
10:30Just six days ago, that coalition of the brain-dead, Merz from Germany, Macron, Stormer, and Zelensky
10:42said, look, you don't buy our 30-day ceasefire, there'll be consequences, bone-crushing sanctions,
10:53So he's there to hold Mario's hand here, and most maliciously here, most consequentially,
11:05to give the Ukrainians the idea that they still have really strong people on their side
11:10in this court.
11:12So they have the Europeans, and they have Lindsey Graham, and they have Kellogg, and
11:17maybe they have Rubio.
11:19But, you know, to give them the idea still after three years.
11:23One last comment, Graham, yeah, this is great, 457 days, my God, thousands, hundreds of thousands
11:34of young kids been killed in those 457 days, right?
11:39And does Graham give a hoot about that?
11:42Of course not.
11:43Now, he said, we thought it would take three days.
11:47So did Putin.
11:51So did Zelensky.
11:52So is my proof of that?
11:54The very day after the...
11:57Two questions for you, Larry, one, Rubio's in Istanbul, and he says, nothing will happen
12:03until Trump and Putin get here.
12:05That might have been the origin of the rumor this morning that Trump was not flying to
12:10Washington, he was flying to Istanbul, it didn't happen.
12:13What Rubio should know, heads of state don't negotiate.
12:18They sign agreements that have already been negotiated by their team.
12:24Second question, I want you to jump in on both.
12:27Why the hell are General Kellogg and Sebastian Gorka and those characters still whispering
12:34into Trump's ears if he's diminishing and blaming all of our failures since 9-11 on
12:42the neocons?
12:43Yeah, you know, Trump does not have any consistency in terms of who he surrounds himself with.
12:50And once again, what was illustrated in today's talks, the United States doesn't hold any
12:57cards.
12:58This entire spectacle was designed to try to create a scenario in which Trump's going
13:04to be compelled to impose new sanctions on Russia.
13:09And Russia doesn't care.
13:13If Trump does that, he's going to dramatically erode his credibility with the Russians.
13:22The Russians went in today and boy, they essentially hit the Ukrainians with a bucket of cold
13:29water.
13:30Medensky said, look, here's the deal.
13:35You withdraw all of your forces from Kherson, from Zaporizhia, from Donetsk and Luhansk,
13:41and then we can talk about a ceasefire.
13:44But until that happens, we're not going to talk ceasefire.
13:48And if you turn this off or down, we're going to take four more.
13:51So we'll control eight oblasts, not just four.
13:56And that's been reported by a couple of different sources that seem to have access.
14:03Ukraine is, oh, we reject that.
14:05Okay, go ahead and reject it.
14:07The Russians are moving steadily to the West.
14:11They're going to take Dnipropetrovsk, Sumy, Poltava and Kharkiv.
14:17And they'll be up against the east bank of the Dnipro River.
14:23And there's not a thing that Ukraine or the NATO can do about it, because look, Judge,
14:30all of a sudden done, the root causes of this conflict is not Ukraine.
14:35It's not what Ukraine did to the Russians.
14:38It is NATO and the United States.
14:41It's what we've done to the Russians.
14:43You know, you couldn't be more correct.
14:47And yet, General Kellogg again, pushes this NATO peacekeepers on the ground.
14:55If anything were ever a non-starter, if anything were ever so profound, the Russians wouldn't
15:02even bother to come to the table.
15:04It's that.
15:05Am I right, Larry?
15:07Yes.
15:08Yeah.
15:09Yeah.
15:10No, absolutely.
15:11I mean, Ray, does Rubio know what he's talking about when he says there can't be a deal until
15:18Putin and Trump arrive?
15:20And when he said that, he knew that neither of them was coming?
15:24Well, I can't explain Rubio.
15:29There is talk now about a very, very soon summit, so to speak.
15:36Nothing's really going to be resolved unless Trump is prepared to accept a pig with just
15:43a little bit of lipstick on it.
15:45Larry's right.
15:46You know, the Medinsky, the head negotiator for the Russians, you know, he said, look,
15:53how long do you want to fight this thing?
15:56We can do it for another year.
15:57No, we can do it for 20 years, like we did against the Swedes.
16:01The Russians are in a very strong position.
16:04And I think that the way this thing's played out, six days ago, we had the brain dead from
16:12the allies, the Europeans, you had Zelensky saying, look, we're going to have a ceasefire
16:19or there'll be really huge sanctions.
16:24And then what does Putin do?
16:26Next day, he said, wait a second, all you media that you're about to go home from the
16:30celebration of the triumph in Europe, stay around.
16:36Here's my plan.
16:37We're going to resume, OK, big, big word, resume the negotiations that were broken off
16:43by the West in Istanbul and indeed resuming with the same leader, Medinsky, OK?
16:51So this means that this is a big deal.
16:53Now, when I mentioned Lindsey Graham, we thought this would be done in three days.
16:58Well, as I say, so did Putin, so did Zelensky.
17:02Why?
17:03Because on the second day of the invasion or the special military operation, Zelensky
17:10called Putin and said, look, let's talk, let's get this thing over.
17:13And the whole rest of the deal was the Russians succeeded in scaring the pants off Zelensky.
17:20He sent his best representatives, closest friends to Belarus and then to Istanbul.
17:26And we all know what happened in Istanbul.
17:28So this is a resumption, except the situation on the ground has changed.
17:34And as Larry said, you know, I think the Russian negotiator says, OK, look, you want to come
17:39back later?
17:40Well, then we'll have five more provinces, five provinces rather than the four we hold
17:47now.
17:48So they have a strong hand.
17:49I think that Trump and his people, maybe Whitkoff, were aware of this ploy by Putin
17:59and fully support what happened today and are ready to say, well, if the Ukrainians
18:06can't be any smarter than that, and if they continue to be aided and abetted by people
18:11like Lindsey Graham and the Europeans, that's it.
18:14We quit.
18:15We quit.
18:16We quit the Europeans.
18:17And Lindsey, you take over from here.
18:18We're out of there.
18:19So, Larry, the United States negotiates directly with Hamas, wasn't Marco Rubio, it was somebody
18:26else that Trump dispatched.
18:28And as a result of that negotiation, the last American hostage from New Jersey, 22-year-old
18:35young man, was freed.
18:38No quid pro quo from the Israelis because they weren't involved.
18:44Trump publicly embraces an ex-Al Qaeda commander who, according to Ritter, has killed Americans
18:53with his bare hands.
18:55Trump publicly sidelines Netanyahu by ostentatiously not mentioning him in four days and, of course,
19:02not stopping in Israel.
19:04Where's this going?
19:05Well, let's start with Trump embracing Jelani, formerly known as Jelani, now known as Ashara,
19:14a bona fide terrorist, ISIS, al-Nusra, Hayat, Tahrir al-Sham, one of the top 10 international
19:21terrorist groups on the State Department's hit parade.
19:25But this is not without precedent because we've got several American presidents that
19:29have been embracing terrorists before, Menachem Begin, does that ring a bell?
19:34How about Yitzhak Shamir, also a terrorist?
19:38One ran the Irgun, one ran the Stern Gang, and both later became country leaders.
19:45So we clean them up, we dress them up in a suit, cut their beard or shave the beard,
19:52cut the hair, make them look presentable, and then all of a sudden they're in good company.
19:57What you know that Trump is actually doing something pretty significant with respect
20:02to distancing himself from the Zionists, that when you hear the likes of Ben Shapiro
20:09and Mark Levin, their heads are exploding.
20:13They're out shouting about Steve Whitkoff being, now Whitkoff is Jewish, as are Shapiro
20:20and Levin, but yet according to them, Whitkoff is an anti-Semite.
20:27He's taking anti-Semitic positions.
20:29I mean, you can't make this up.
20:32And so the fact that Trump, after saying, oh, I'll never talk to Hamas, and he talked
20:37to Hamas and got the deal done.
20:41He's big on pushing the Abraham Accord.
20:44Whitkoff was putting out information this morning that, oh, they got all these countries,
20:47Armenia, Azerbaijan, the Saudis, they're all ready to go with the Abraham Accord.
20:53The thing he didn't say, and I guarantee you is in the fine print, they're all on board
20:58as long as Israel stops the genocide against the Palestinians and the United States recognizes
21:06a Palestinian state.
21:09Those are going to be the two conditions that these other countries, particularly the Saudis,
21:14will hold out for in order, before they embrace the Abraham Accord.
21:18Sure they'll give Trump his victory to say, man, I stopped the war between the Arabs and
21:23Muslims and Israel, yeah.
21:26But in the course of that, he may actually end up saving the Palestinians.
21:31I'm at least hopeful that that's what's being done behind the scenes.
21:35Ray, I want you to comment on a clip that we're now going to run.
21:40It begins with the UN High Commissioner on Genocide giving a brief report to the Security
21:51Council and then it transfers to a Sky News, biggest cable facility in Europe, reporter
22:01ripping into Danny Dannon, a cold, steely-eyed, you can describe him as you see fit, UN ambassador
22:12from Israel.
22:15Cut number 15.
22:16We have briefed this council in great detail on the extensive civilian harm that we witness
22:22daily.
22:23Death, injury, destruction, hunger, disease, torture, other cruel, inhuman or degrading
22:30treatment.
22:31We have described the deliberate obstruction of aid operations and the systematic dismantling
22:36of Palestinian life.
22:38This degradation of international law is corrosive and infectious.
22:43It is undermining decades of progress on rules to protect civilians from inhumanity and the
22:49violent and lawless among us.
22:51That was Tom Fletcher and Ambassador Dannon.
22:54He goes on to say, stop the 21st century atrocity in Gaza.
22:58Will you act now decisively to prevent genocide in Gaza and to ensure respect for international
23:04humanitarian law?
23:05I just want to get your reaction to what Tom Fletcher was saying.
23:09We are in this war because of Hamas, period.
23:12If you want to blame somebody, blame Hamas.
23:14Ambassador Dannon, I'm not talking about Hamas, a terrorist organization.
23:19I am talking about you, the state of Israel, as a responsible actor.
23:24For the last 19 months, the world has been watching the way that you have prosecuted
23:29this conflict, the way that aid has been prevented from reaching the most needy.
23:35In the last two months, 73 days, we have seen that there has been no aid that has entered Gaza.
23:43So while you can deflect and say that this is Hamas's responsibility, at the end of the
23:48day, you are the governing power in Gaza.
23:52You have a responsibility to ensure that there is no famine and starvation in Gaza, which
23:56is what the world, including your allies and partners, are now accusing you of.
24:01And it's gone beyond accusation.
24:03They are saying that they are seeing it in real time take place.
24:07So the only starvation in Gaza is the starvation of the hostages.
24:14How do you deal, Ray McGovern, with a mentality, with an inhumane attitude like that?
24:24Well, I'm just glad that the interview wasn't in person, because I think she was Irish and
24:31she would have done him in.
24:38You know, it really is, you know, when we talk about the Arabs, let's admit that they're cowards.
24:48The Arabs don't give a rat's patootie about the Palestinians, even though they have real
24:53domestic problems with Palestinians that do a lot of their work for them, okay?
24:59So what's going to really take is that Trump has got to make that telephone call we all
25:06talk about and tell Mr. Netanyahu, look, we're getting embarrassed ourselves about genocide.
25:13We don't think it's a real neat thing.
25:15Even the press in Britain and to some extent in America are talking about genocide now.
25:21Sure, CNN and BBC not, but it's coming.
25:24We want you to stop.
25:26Now can we as citizens do something about that?
25:28Sure we can.
25:30My colleagues in Veterans for Peace are doing a fast before the U.S.
25:37representative at the UN this coming week.
25:42There are lots of stuff we can do, but each of us, each of us individually need to do
25:46something to stop the genocide.
25:49Last thing here, Aaron Bushnell, who was so beside himself about what we were doing,
25:58set himself on fire.
26:01Last thing he said was, look, we asked him what we would have done during slavery, what
26:05we would have done during Jim Crow, and then what would we do during genocide?
26:11Well, you're doing it now.
26:15You, you're doing it now or you're not doing it now.
26:18And so that's what we got to do here.
26:20The Arabs are a feckless bunch, they're just interested in money, sorry to say that.
26:28And Netanyahu's not going to listen to anyone else but Trump.
26:31Maybe the time has come for Trump to make that telephone call.
26:35Ray, about a month ago, officials of the National Intelligence Council of the CIA issued a report
26:47concluding that the Tren de Aragua gang was not affiliated with or subject to or directed
26:56by the government of Venezuela.
27:01This week, Tulsi Gabbard fired the two top officials at the National Intelligence Council.
27:06What is the National Intelligence Council and how significant is some firing like this?
27:13Well, if it's tied to this paper that undercut the U.S. or undercut Trump policy, then that's
27:20mischievous because that shouldn't happen.
27:23What we see here now is a whole reorganization of the reorganization that took place after 9-11.
27:30All those senators and all those members of the 9-11 Commission said, oh, the problem
27:35was no one was in charge.
27:37Well, I got news for you.
27:40Someone was in charge and had the authority and had the responsibility to prevent 9-11
27:44and he didn't do it.
27:46His name was George Tenet.
27:48Everybody made mistakes for him and they set up a new superstructure, which was totally
27:54unnecessary.
27:55Now that's coming home to roost because there's all kinds of games being played here.
28:01And all you need is somebody in authority with integrity and the gumption to do things
28:06about it.
28:07They can run the PDB.
28:08They can run the National Intelligence Council and make good estimates, but they need to
28:13have the right kind of people in there.
28:16They don't need another superstructure.
28:18But I do have some hope that Tulsi Gabbard, as she is moving the people that do the president's
28:26daily brief out of CIA headquarters, I hope she gets somebody with integrity and responsibility
28:33and guts to run the PDB because that's where it hits the road.
28:38Larry Trump needs to get where he needs to get.
28:40Larry, A, what is the National Intelligence Council?
28:44And B, who would work for her if they're going to get fired for being intellectually honest?
28:50Well, back in my day and Ray's day, the National, the NIC was actually part of CIA.
28:58And you'd get senior officers from different divisions like, you know, one of my friends
29:05and mentors, Fulton Armstrong, went on to become the National Intelligence Officer for
29:10Latin America.
29:11He was in that position when the decision was made to invade Iraq in 2003.
29:16He, along with the National Intelligence Officer for Africa, opposed that invasion.
29:22But after the reorganization, the setup of the Office of Director of National Intelligence,
29:28the NIC was moved under it.
29:30Now, whether they physically moved out of CIA headquarters and moved to the DNI headquarters,
29:36that I don't know.
29:38But what the National Intelligence Council is supposed to be is to have the best Latin
29:43American expert, the best Africa expert, the best European expert, best Asian expert, the
29:49best Soviet or then it was then Soviet, now Russian expert, et cetera.
29:55So you've got the expertise from these different disciplines and then to oversee the production
30:00of national intelligence estimates, which that's virtually disappeared, at least under
30:06the Biden administration.
30:07I don't recall even a single national intelligence estimate coming out.
30:11So it's to be there as sort of an expert consultants.
30:20And my understanding is the people that Tulsi fired, they fired him for their political
30:25involvement, not because they were providing unwelcome analysis.
30:30It's because they were political activists openly talking about defeating Trump.
30:36Okay.
30:37Just sort of liven things up.
30:42The opposite of the Lindsey Graham full screen.
30:47Here is our friend, Ben Cohen of Ben and Jerry's Ice Home.
30:52Yes.
30:54Doing his best Ray McGovern imitation at a hearing at which Bobby Kennedy was testifying.
31:03You got to watch this.
31:04Cut number 16.
31:05While the committee conducts its business, Capitol Police are asked to remove the individuals
31:15from the hearing room.
31:16Move down the hallway.
31:17Ben, why are you getting arrested?
31:18Move down the hallway.
31:19Poor kids in Gaza by buying bombs and pays for it by kicking kids off Medicaid in the
31:26U.S.
31:27Keep going down.
31:28Keep going down the hallway.
31:29Ben, how many days have they been starving in Gaza?
31:30What has it been?
31:3175 days.
31:32Stop.
31:33Stop.
31:34Stop.
31:35Stop.
31:36Stop.
31:37Stop.
31:38Stop.
31:39Stop.
31:40Stop.
31:41Stop.
31:42Stop.
31:43Stop.
31:44Stop.
31:45Stop.
31:46Stop.
31:47Stop.
31:48Ben, what are you calling for the Congress and Senators to do for Gaza?
31:49Congress and the Senators need to ease the situation.
31:50They need to let food into Gaza.
31:51They need to let food in starving kids.
31:52What did you say in there, Ben?
31:53I said that Congress is paying to bomb poor kids in Gaza and paying for it by kicking
31:54poor kids off Medicaid in the U.S.
31:55Don't look at me closer.
31:56Stop.
31:57Stop.
31:58Stop.
31:59Stop.
32:00Stop.
32:01Stop.
32:02Stop.
32:03Stop.
32:04Stop.
32:05Stop.
32:06Stop.
32:07Stop.
32:08Stop.
32:09Stop.
32:10Stop.
32:11Stop.
32:12Stop.
32:13Stop.
32:14Stop.
32:15Stop.
32:16Stop.
32:17Stop.
32:18Stop.
32:19Stop.
32:20Stop.
32:21Stop.
32:22Stop.
32:23See, Ray, when they arrested you, you didn't have your own PR set up ready to go the whole
32:28way.
32:29No, I barely got the same word, but you know, there should be free ice cream after every
32:37event like that, and I would invite every one of us to seize whatever opportunity we have
32:43to intervene like that when these people are pontificating about starving kids in Gaza and
32:51justifying that as necessary to defeat Hamas or to support Israel. It's a scandal of, it's a scandal
33:00I have not seen in my 85 years and that's a long time to wait for this kind of scandal. Let's stop
33:06it, folks. Let's stop it. Larry, I was surprised. I thought the cops were a little rough with them
33:11and it was just freedom of speech for gosh sakes. He wasn't harming anybody. They were treating him
33:19like he was a linebacker who had attacked his girlfriend. Yeah, it's unfortunate that,
33:26let's call it the rules of engagement, are not designed to treat people as human beings.
33:34It is a bit of thuggery. It's unfortunate. You know, maybe one thing, if he was armed,
33:39he wasn't armed and he wasn't fighting back. He wasn't throwing punches. He wasn't spitting at him
33:45but so, you know, they should have, it's just, it was a power trip. You know, that's part of
33:52the problem. Sometimes people put on a uniform and they forget that they're a human being.
33:57Right, and they forget the oath they took to the constitution. Gentlemen, thank you very much. Thanks
34:02for your time. Thanks for the double duty. Have a great weekend. We'll look forward to seeing you
34:06both at your usual times on Monday. Happy to do it. Thanks, Chuck. Thank you. All the best.
34:12And Monday, of course, at 8 in the morning, Alistair Crook at 10 in the morning,
34:17Ray McGovern at 11.30 in the morning, Larry Johnson and probably one of our other regular
34:25colleagues in the afternoon. I know that Scott Ritter is very unhappy at some of the things
34:32that happened in the Middle East and can't wait to express that unhappiness.
34:37Have a great weekend, everybody. Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom.