00:00This is a legal and political thunderclap. The General Court of the European Union has
00:11condemned the European Commission's lack of transparency in the negotiations on vaccines
00:15during the COVID-19 pandemic. The judges annulled the Commission's refusal to disclose the text
00:21messages exchanged between its president and the head of Pfizer. These text messages between
00:27Ursula von der Leyen and the pharmaceutical giant took place during negotiations on the purchase of
00:32almost two billion doses. The Commission maintains that it does not hold these text messages and that
00:38their content was insubstantial. Another convincing line of defence. For the moment it's still unclear
00:46why they thought that these messages did not include important information. So this needs to be
00:53clarified and also in a way we can see that in general there is still a lot of secrecy around
00:59this. We still don't know, it's still unclear if these messages were deleted, if as the court say
01:04were deleted on purpose automatically, what happened there. So in our opinion since the beginning text
01:10messages should be included. The court criticised the Commission for failing to provide credible
01:15evidence to explain why it was unable to provide these text messages at the request of a journalist
01:21from the New York Times. In addition, the judges considered that the institution was unable to
01:26clearly specify whether or not these text messages had been deleted. The Commission remains unclear on
01:31this issue. I didn't say that any messages were deleted. What I did say were that as in any access
01:38to documents request, what we first do is to check are there any registered documents that fall within
01:45the scope of the request. We did that, didn't find any. The Commission considers that the judgment does not
01:50call into question the procedures for registering documents, but rather a lack of explanation.
01:55It interprets the court decision as an indication that it will have to justify itself better in the future.
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