00:00Just listening to the detail there, listening to people who were supposed to get on boats yesterday,
00:03make that perilous journey, still suggesting that there's no deterrent to come into the UK,
00:08despite the Prime Minister's announcement only yesterday to toughen up legal migration.
00:14I think that has now caused the debate, legal migration versus illegal migration.
00:20People are still obviously very fed up with the amount of people who are crossing the channel illegally.
00:25Obviously, whether the government's plans will do anything to tackle that remains to be seen.
00:32But it's clearly going to be a lot of worry for a lot of people.
00:35And on the back of the local elections where people voted in reform in local communities,
00:40it sent a real signal to the government.
00:42But this suggests in Patrick's report there's no sign of letting up.
00:46I mean, what struck me watching Patrick's reports last night,
00:49where obviously he's talking to people in France, which is a safe country,
00:52and he's saying, why then make the dangerous, that perilous journey across the channel to Britain?
00:57And there seems to be an understanding amongst the men that he was talking to
01:01that they could get a house and they would get money from people living here in Britain.
01:06And Patrick said to them, oh, it's not like that.
01:08We're not all rich. We can't, you know, we can't do that for you.
01:11And it seemed as though it was the first time they'd actually heard that.
01:15Yeah, I think that's right.
01:16Look, you know, people in the UK, you know, if you take Ukraine, for example,
01:20people open up their hearts and their homes to people that are fleeing persecution,
01:24that are fleeing conflict, that are fleeing war.
01:27You know, we are a generous country.
01:28And, you know, it's absolute rights in our history.
01:30It's our DNA to support people that are in genuine need.
01:33But for every one person that comes over illegally that might get to the top of that housing list,
01:38that might get the benefits that could otherwise be going to somebody in the UK
01:41or to someone that's in genuine need, it's a profound sense of unfairness.
01:46And when you see thousands of people, it seems to me, just looking at these images now,
01:50young men that seem to be crossing the channel, they're not necessarily people in need.
01:56They are economic migrants.
01:57And we've got to get that language right, depending on where people are coming from,
02:00because you're right, they end up in France.
02:02France is a safe country.
02:04And many countries would have been passed through before arriving to France and then on to the UK.
02:09So it's got to be a whole supply chain where lots of countries need to get involved
02:15to prevent that mass movement, because it's a European problem as much as it is a UK one.
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