00:00Hungary opting out of the EU migration policy.
00:03Denmark has a zero refugee policy.
00:06Why can't we do things like that now?
00:09We need to send the message to those beaches in France
00:11with leaflets or whatever.
00:13If you try, you get nothing when you come.
00:15And you watch, they won't come over.
00:17If they don't think they're getting a hotel and free money,
00:20they won't come.
00:20In my opinion, smash the gangs is a policy
00:24I think the government are going to have to say,
00:26hands up, we failed.
00:27Do you think that's already the case with the policy
00:30or do you think they need a bit of a longer shot?
00:32Look, they don't smash the gangs and they don't stop the boats.
00:34And it's actually worse than, you know, they're not just failing.
00:38Keir Starmer's almost given up.
00:40He's now just resorted to saying it's really bad.
00:43It's a really bad situation.
00:44I think Yvette Cooper may be in line for being
00:47the worst Home Secretary ever.
00:49And we've had a few hopeless Home Secretaries.
00:52We're not just a soft touch at this point.
00:54We're actually welcoming them with open arms.
00:57And it's worse than what Bill says about it being visually
00:59and symbolically bad that we haven't got control of our borders.
01:02Because when Alex points out that it's 40% of the daily birth rate,
01:08it's not just about the warm weather.
01:09We know the warm weather.
01:10That's like saying the NHS, you know, struggles every winter.
01:13We know it's going to be fine-ish weather, you know,
01:17sailable weather over the next few months.
01:19And these boats just keep on coming and we are doing nothing.
01:23Either we need to stop paying the French these millions of pounds,
01:26or we admit defeat, or, Alex, we do something.
01:29And you know what?
01:30When you want to save the British steel industry, they do something.
01:33They reconvene Parliament, they pointlessly get everybody back
01:36from their holidays, and they get a royal assent through.
01:39What do you mean pointlessly get people back from their holidays?
01:41Because we had to save the steel industry.
01:44Exactly.
01:45But that wasn't known.
01:46So you don't welcome that?
01:48You don't welcome that?
01:49I don't want to get on to talk about steel tonight,
01:50because this is a big important topic.
01:52We did steal to death, trust me.
01:54Bill, what do you make of what Emma's saying?
01:56I don't think it's true.
01:57This government desperately wants to reduce net migration.
02:01And you say, you know, this is a huge element of it.
02:04I want to reduce the boats, but it's 3% of net migration.
02:07And there is been progress being made on reducing the numbers overall.
02:11We had a million when we came to office.
02:13The projections are net migration next year of 330,000.
02:16Now, I want to go further than that, but that is a big, significant reduction.
02:20And, Adam, we've got a deal in facts.
02:22Denmark has not got a zero migration policy.
02:26Migrants go into Denmark every day of the week.
02:29I've read several articles before I come on.
02:32You read a lot of stuff on the internet that isn't true.
02:34No, I've read things from actual papers in this country, right?
02:39At the end of the day...
02:40Then come on this show next week and demonstrate that Denmark's got zero migrants.
02:44I proved you wrong on a point the other week.
02:45No, you didn't.
02:46Yes, I did, Bill, and I'll prove you wrong again.
02:48We've had 600 people...
02:49Zero migrants in Denmark.
02:50Bill, we've had 600 people cross the channel yesterday.
02:53When they're given leave to remain, they will each bring four family members, maybe five.
02:57So, yesterday, we are basically, I've got a liability now, of about 2,500 people from yesterday alone.
03:05Another five or ten years of this, even at the next election, this country will be...
03:09And the fact is...
03:09Unrecognisable.
03:11It will be.
03:11We're bringing terrorists in, rapists, criminals, legal migration, we can track people.
03:17Yeah.
03:18Illegal, we cannot, because they throw their IDs.
03:20Just to clarify, they have a zero refugee policy as of this year.
03:24But migrants are coming in to Denmark every week.
03:30Apology, Bill, thank you.
03:31No, no, migrants are coming into Denmark every week.
03:33Go and look at the evidence.
03:35They've got a zero refugee policy.
03:37Yeah, but migrants are coming into the country.
03:40I would say the argument is that they are saying we're going to...
03:42You can say all sorts of things, but the practical reality is what matters.
03:46That's important.
03:47I mean, look, Emma...
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