00:00I'm assuming that isn't always the case.
00:02It is not.
00:03It wasn't in my...
00:06It's really fun to actually speak to you after watching this film
00:09when I think I might be a bit obsessed with it.
00:11Because it's like, it's astonishing.
00:14The simmering tension, it was all build-up and characterisation.
00:16You don't really get that in the films of this size these days.
00:19Did it feel like you were making a big film,
00:22or did the sensibilities of what was happening on set feel a bit smaller?
00:26This is a very human story,
00:29dealing with human issues, albeit complex.
00:34It didn't feel gargantuan from that standpoint.
00:38It felt profound, but not gargantuan.
00:41That definitely, as a viewer, that's how it hit me.
00:44I was like, wow, this is like a huge film,
00:46but it's hitting me on a level other than other blockbusters manage to do.
00:51That's a really good thing.
00:52Yeah.
00:53And I don't know about you, Jack, probably the same.
00:56I appreciate that.
00:58You got us a problem, yo.
01:00What the hell going on?
01:01Oh, we heard tale of a party.
01:03Jack, your character is fascinating.
01:05Remick, he's an enigma as well.
01:08Like, when it ends, I'm just wanting to know more about him.
01:11Were you given a backstory?
01:13Like 600 years' worth.
01:15I think the text alludes to his origins being from a time that you could probably pinpoint down to that long ago.
01:27What I love about working with Ryan is any question that you might have regarding this enormous, in this case, enormous backstory, he'll find that answer with you.
01:39If he doesn't have it already, he's not going anywhere until he's answered your question.
01:46It also speaks to a really intense sensitivity to the actors and actors' process.
01:52Technically, this was a large endeavor, but he always has time for the actors.
01:57He always has time for the actors.
01:59And for me, that suggests a love for the actors and a love of an appreciation for the actors and the acting process.
02:09And I'm assuming that isn't always the case.
02:11It is not.
02:12Well, in my experience...
02:15Let's talk about that.
02:17But wait a minute.
02:18But I have to say, I've not had...
02:20I've had some not great experiences, but broadly speaking, it's...
02:26I've been fortunate.
02:28You know, I can be talking to a director, or I can...
02:31Working with a director, and I can understand...
02:33They don't understand the actors' process.
02:36But I...
02:38Rarely have I had situations where it's...
02:41Resulted in just not a good working experience.
02:43And what is it we're supposed to be doing?
02:47Being kind to one another!
02:49Jack, let's just quickly talk about Irish dancing, because...
02:52That came out of nowhere.
02:53Sure.
02:54But, um...
02:55It did for me, but obviously...
02:57Is that something you could do already, or did you...?
02:59Tell the story, man.
03:00No, it's really interesting.
03:01Yeah, yeah, well...
03:03Is this one being kind?
03:04Imagine my surprise.
03:06So, reading this script...
03:08About 50, 60 pages in, I'm reading...
03:11My character goes into full-blown...
03:14Rocky Road to Dublin.
03:16You know, which is like an anthem...
03:19Within Irish culture.
03:21Age old.
03:23So imagine my surprise when I'm reading this.
03:26You know, a song I'd happily belt out in many a pub.
03:29Yeah.
03:30Yeah.
03:31And I'm going, okay.
03:32And then later on down the page, he breaks out into traditional Irish dancing.
03:39So I'm like, okay, that's in the locker as well.
03:43From way back, I used to go do Irish dancing classes as a whippersnapper.
03:48Oh, wow.
03:49So yeah, yeah.
03:50And then we'd compete.
03:51They'd put us against each other.
03:53They'd be like regional tournaments and stuff.
03:56And not many people know that about me.
03:59And then I...
04:00So when I found out there was a chance to do that in this, you can only imagine my surprise.
04:06But yeah, jumping jack back in the day.
04:08Wow.
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04:42back catalogue that um might not have got the love it deserved at the time jack do you want
04:46to tell us what you picked i think you'll like this one belroy because it's uh being a manchester
04:51united fan i am are you god bless me it's a story about uh bobby bobby charlton oh stop um and and
05:00the munich air disaster like i i think it's a timeless story and i think it's that makes it
05:05a timeless piece and uh really proud of it man what's it called united united who did you play
05:13you play one of the sir bobby get the sir bobby we got the cast of the whole uh busby babes era
05:19duncan edwards dennis law all those guys yeah yeah and i i check that man obviously uh like a
05:28you know harrowing uh tale in in in itself yeah uh surrounded in this backdrop of this magnificent
05:36era of football underrated yeah yeah a lot of people kind of when they write about you they
05:42write about how you played a lot of like delinquent roles in your early years and things like that but
05:46actually this is really stands out because it's a very moving performance whoa there's a line where
05:52you say where i don't you know well you know you're kind of learning who died in the crash and you say
05:56they reel off the names from the newspaper and you say all of them and the way you deliver it
06:00it's broke my heart man oh man honestly it did um was there responsibility in playing that role
06:05enormous as a young actor as well like yeah stepping into those shoes it was lofty and uh weighty
06:12um you know there was there was such a beloved figure right bobby charlton that means yeah really
06:18really beloved i won't let you down i promise delroy you picked something that i love
06:22uh good clockers i've always felt that clockers is a very underrated film i think the reason for that
06:29has to do with genre that it that it that it is set in this you know this drug drug world and i
06:36remember when when spike called me and said man what he said to me i remember he said i want to put
06:41i want to put a nail in the coffin of this kind of film and so i when he said that i knew that he was
06:49he had a certain kind of stance to this narrative that he was trying to execute and i was like
06:56thrilled to be a part of it for me the interesting thing about playing rodney was not the drugs man
07:02it had to do with how is this cat how does this cat become a father figure to these kids
07:08that's for me that was a key um but overall i i've always felt that clockers is somewhat of an
07:15underrated film why do you think at the time it didn't land at the box office so i'd be curious to
07:25hear spike's point of view about this maybe it was too uh harsh a harsher a topic and a harsh a subject
07:37matter harsh a um a world to present to audiences and at that time i mean i think that that open the
07:45opening sequence of clockers um you've got shaka khan you got shaka khan and that pianist i forget the cat's
07:55name now and the musician they were playing and you were seeing all these dead bodies
07:59and i remember in part of my research for that film i went up to uh one of the precincts in new york city
08:08and they gave me these books and i was just looking at dead bodies
08:15straight up dead bodies drug related dead bodies and the fact that spike replicated that is a stunning
08:24opening for that film but it may it may be people just didn't want to be confronted with that do you
08:32think there's um a prescience to clockers that's a really good question and it's it's very difficult
08:38for me to answer my instinctive response is yes it's patient now then it's a why why is it patient
08:45how violence how that world snuffs out so much talent and because i'm not sure how it is in this
08:59country right now but we have in america we have a huge a gargantuan um what's that drug that's that's
09:07fentanyl fentanyl thank you fentanyl we have a huge problem i mean aside from the fact the heroin is still
09:14all the other classic drugs are still there it's such a huge devastation on society and so much
09:22talent gets completely destroyed so it's i think very patient in that from that standpoint they had
09:29a sawed-up shotgun right in my mug straight it's my best friend too and delroy the five bloods one of
09:36the most egregious oscar snubs i would say for yourself um does that stuff carry weight i know like
09:43journalists love to go on about it but as an actor do you is it a thing it is a thing it is a thing
09:50one but one must get over it really quickly because uh it's about work i gotta keep working i gotta keep
10:00working it kicked me in my ass it kicked me in my natural ass uh just for a variety of reasons however
10:08i remember the morning of the snub spike and i were on the phone and he called me and and in the final
10:17final final final analysis one must keep working you can't you can't wallow in that stuff man we could
10:25talk talk talk for you know an hour but you can't wallow you gotta keep working you gotta keep working
10:30and the and the role will always be there for us to watch film is forever film is forever yeah no matter
10:36what who says what and judges and gives me this okay the work is on screen period the end
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