00:00day, is it? My point is this. Why would you talk about, Sir Keir Starmer would never, ever
00:05talk about the problems with Scottish nationalism on St Andrew's Day. Never in a trillion years
00:10would he talk about Welsh nationalism being a toxic issue on St David's Day. Never. And yet
00:17St George's Day seems to be absolutely open season. And when will the metropolitan elites,
00:24I'm sorry to use that phrase, when will they understand that the flag is sacred, the day is
00:29sacred, the sentiment is sacred, and keep the blooming politics out of it. Well, hang on, first
00:33of all, the day isn't sacred. We're not talking about Easter or Christmas. It's sacred to English
00:38patriots. It's a no-go zone in terms of politics. The same as Armistice Day, the same as D-Day. It is
00:44a day to be celebrated as our national day. No, it's not sacred, it's not Easter, it's not Christmas,
00:49it's not a religious festival. Try telling that to English patriots who feel greatly aggrieved by this
00:54today. I don't think you understand what it means to be an English patriot. If we're having this
00:58conversation, I sincerely don't. Well, I mean, OK, if you were to talk about patriotism,
01:03that I am pleased to be British rather than proud to be British, because I had no say in actually
01:09being British. But I am really pleased to be part of this country. So in that sense, I would be a
01:15patriot. But on something like this, when you talk about he wouldn't do it in Scotland, he wouldn't do
01:20it in Wales. If we just had had riots last year in Cardiff or in Glasgow that were brought about
01:28with flags being waved, I think he would call out that flag too. He is the Prime Minister of the
01:33United Kingdom. What about when we have seen in the past very, very toxic anti-English racism from
01:39Scottish nationalists? Not a peep. Absolute, you know, absolute tumbleweed. You know, crickets from the
01:46Prime Minister on that. You have to admit, English nationalism is singularly targeted in this way. And I'm
01:53afraid, gentlemen, if I feel like I'm kind of St George-splaining to you, I think you're both missing the
01:58point. I don't think you understand how important St George's Day is and how aggrieved people feel by the fact
02:04that this has become so politicised. Not today. Leave it alone. Save it for another day. But the
02:10flag has been hijacked. It's been hijacked by certain groups. Southport was the last time that
02:14we saw it. You're doing it again, mate. Well, look, if you hijack the flag for what I would call not
02:20patriotic reasons, I don't think ripping up the country, trying to burn things down is a patriotic
02:25thing to do. If you're saying those acts were committed under the flag, you're attacking everybody
02:29who loves that flag. That's my point. No, you're not. You're attacking people who have
02:34misappropriated the flag. So attack them for their actions, not the fact they're under a flag.
02:39By the way, were they even carrying the flag? Where's the evidence? You've shown on screen
02:44Emily Thornberry, who had a go at the flag. Who lost their job over this nonsense. And that was
02:48absolutely right. Absolutely right. What the flag should be is a celebration of England. It should
02:54be used at England football. Don't tell us what the flag should be. Don't tell us how the flag is
02:58misappropriated and somehow blame the entire population for being the worst of the world. I'm not blaming the entire
03:02population. No, that's what is happening here. I'm blaming the people misappropriated it.
03:06Listen mate, everyone in Southport was immediately far right. Immediately. Everyone. And that went
03:11nationwide under this flag of St George. On St George's Day, here we are again having the same
03:16conversation. Leave it out. But people at Southport were far right. Not everybody I accept, but a lot
03:24of people there were far right. And under the symbol of a flag, and I call that misappropriating our flag.
03:30And I call this, you know, a conversation that's very, very damaging for the English national psyche.
03:35The only nationalism, by the way, that it's fine to besmirch. It's fine to dissect, cross-examine,
03:42and criticise on its sacred day. I put it back to you again, Chris Oak. This would never ever in a
03:47billion years happen on St Andrew's Day or St David's Day or any other nation. It might be if he was
03:52Scottish or Welsh. He may feel he wants to speak out on certain issues to do with the flag.
03:56This is the argument. It might be if he was in English or something like that. But there's a lot of
04:00people who would still believe that a lot of people would have aרivariac,
04:01which have those little things for the people there. One of them that you have a lot of people
04:04have a lot of people who've needed that, and they're just a lot of people who've been
04:06a happy place. And that'd be like a lot of them. There's a lot of people who've been
04:06found a lot of people who were made, but a lot of people are a lot of people who won
04:11be. And until and so, when they're a lot of people who've been here, he will have a lot of people who've been
04:15in a conversation with a character that's going through. He's a lot of people who've been doing this to
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