00:00Can you tell me from a legal point of view, what is this?
00:04Let's see, from a legal point of view, I think the fundamental thing here is that an investigation is carried out by the legal body
00:11and it is discovered who were the ones who committed the crime.
00:14I think that...
00:17Can we start from the basis that there is a crime?
00:19Let's see, I think there is a crime, but I don't know if the president is involved in the crime.
00:25Let's see, the president is involved in the crime.
00:28I have a principle of the law, which is that no one can claim their own stupidity.
00:32So, when he makes his tweet explaining, I think he is acknowledging that he made a mistake and he was wrong.
00:39Now, the issue is to see the background.
00:42Who are the pickers?
00:44I saw a reel that you did, it's very nice, about the stamps.
00:47For example, if someone sells you the stamps and tells you that it's worth gold.
00:51Here, someone went from being a picker
00:54and in the presidential environment, I think someone also went from being a picker.
00:57And I think they used the president.
01:00The truth is that there are criminal consequences.
01:03This is what sometimes catches my attention.
01:05When I sometimes talk to an employee on WhatsApp, who is a friend of mine, I tell him,
01:09Hey, take care of the president.
01:11You have to take care of him, because these things can't escape you now.
01:15You can't go around screaming, he committed this crime, this crime, this crime.
01:19No, there is not.
01:20Let's see, today there is nothing.
01:22I mean, what is there? A tweet.
01:24As she explained very well, today I quite understood the crypto issue with her.
01:29I mean, you understand everything that was behind it, the management that was behind it.
01:34Now, the issue is to discover what happened.
01:36So, I think that the fundamental thing here is that the jurisdictional body
01:42carries out a deep investigation with the criminal responsibilities that it has to fall.
01:48Now, you can't go out and jump into the jugular with a political trial.
01:52I mean, because it's not a bad performance.
01:55I mean, the causes of the political trial are a bad performance in the function.
01:58Now, it's a tweet.
02:00When you talk about the jurisdictional body, you are talking about the prosecutor who falls into the case, basically.
02:04And yes, the prosecutor and the justice.
02:06The issue is, what I see most dangerous for me in this instance are the international consequences.
02:11So that anyone in the world appears to you who goes to a judge and tells him,
02:15look, they swindled me.
02:17The president falls into a country and they tell him, come, come, Mr. President,
02:20it's okay, you have immunity, everything.
02:22But they start putting the president in a terrible situation.
02:26I have my doubts about something.
02:28Yes.
02:29Nobody forces you to buy.
02:31No, obviously.
02:32Obviously.
02:33And you buy in a market that is a decentralized market, deregulated.
02:37I mean, you didn't buy an stock that is listed on the NASDAQ.
02:40Yes, you didn't buy the apple.
02:42With the New York Stock Exchange, of course.
02:44You didn't buy a listed paper in the Buenos Aires Stock Exchange.
02:48You bought a token, a crypto market, which is a rare market that you have to know.
02:53Yes, you have to know it.
02:55And that you can lose.
02:57But of course.
02:58So I don't know if someone can show up in court and say, and I lost so much.
03:01And then he can tell you, and sir, who forced you to invest?
03:04That's why I'm telling you, let's see.
03:06I don't know.
03:07There are many edges here.
03:09Look, I was telling a colleague, sir, you grab the criminal code and find me the figure of everything that happened.
03:17It's not there.
03:18It's not in the criminal code.
03:20So now, if you want to scratch thin, well, you find the 256, you find the 300, the influence of Nelalza.
03:28Let's see, you know what worries me the most?
03:30Article 2 of the Public Ethics Law.
03:32That's what worries me.
03:34That nobody went and told the president, hey, look, in Article 2 there is everything you can't do.
03:38Article G.
03:39Of course.
03:40I mean, why?
03:41Because you fall into Article 3 now.
03:43What does it have to do with it?
03:44You can't go out like a madman and say, political trial.
03:47Let's see, forgive what I'm going to say.
03:49We were thrown a bag in the face.
03:51So, let's see, this seems to me that no one can claim their own stupidity as a principle of law.
03:58I mean, we have to rediscover the responsibilities.
04:01And if there are political responsibilities, but in a serious investigation.
04:04I mean, to make it clear, because you mentioned the issue of the Public Ethics Law.
04:07There are three or four articles that could apply, especially G.
04:11Let's see, you have Article 2, G, which automatically falls into 3.
04:15In 3, what does it tell you?
04:17If you do not comply with those of 2, you automatically have a sanction.
04:22And the sanction is the one that establishes the law or the constitution.
04:24At this point they want to go to the political trial, but it is not.
04:27First investigate.
04:28The path is the investigative commission.
04:30Of course.
04:31I think it has to do with an investigative commission.
04:33Because at the same time, because this is also what ...
04:35Let's see, the bad performance in the function is in the exercise of the presidency.
04:39Okay, the president, and here I am going to argue with someone who has said that when he tweeted ...
04:45No, when he tweeted, he is also president.
04:47If we do not fall into Alberto's, when I arrived at Fabiola's party, I hung up the presidential band and I got into a party.
04:52No, president is only 24 hours.
04:54Now, what I say again, within the penal code, within the law,
04:58is there any legal norm that is telling me that what he did typifies ...
05:02There is a typical anti-judicial action that says,
05:04when an official through social networks does this ...
05:09It does not say.
05:10So, if I start to scratch, that's why there has to be an independent investigation.
05:14You ask me, and I say, for me today, so far there is no crime.
05:17Without anything.
05:18I, for ...
05:19Surely it is difficult that you have not seen or read something of everything that happened during the weekend.
05:25But for the doubts, we are going to make a summary in a timeline of everything that happened.
05:30We have a small timeline.
05:32It was Friday night, Valentine's Night, and many did not understand the schedules or how everything happened.
05:36Well, on Friday at eight o'clock at night, Libra is created and at three minutes is the president's tweet.
05:43There we have a photo of the tweet around eight and a quarter.
05:47And by ten thirty at night, that is, in that lapse between eight and ten thirty,
05:52it has a climb, it started trading very few cents of dollars, 0.0001 dollar,
05:58and reaches the peak almost at five dollars at ten thirty at night.
06:03At that time, as it had just been created ...
06:06The same day the web page and the email were created, the domain and the crypto.
06:11Then, obviously, after the tweet of Milley, it begins to be investigated within the crypto world, Friday night,
06:17well, who is behind.
06:19There this data of centrality appears, that few accounts had 87% of the crypto,
06:26and it is believed that for that reason, then, the price begins to fall, right?
06:30For that distrust.
06:32And there too, the blockchain is a digital network where everyone can see the transactions that are made.
06:37It's like, Antonio, the two of us are in the market, we sell and buy apples,
06:43and every operation we do, we have to write them down in a notebook.
06:46So everyone can see the operations, not who is behind the accounts.
06:50With one more point, you still can't modify them.
06:55Of course.
06:56They are not editable. Why are they not editable?
06:59Because, this is a more technical issue, but ...
07:05Each blockchain block has what is called a hash, which is a code, which is unique.
07:10Everyone has to get it.
07:12It is unique, and if you modify any ...
07:18But any number or any letter within what is any operation of the block,
07:25automatically that hash is no longer useful.
07:28And everyone who is on the network finds out.
07:30Exactly.
07:31So you can't edit it.
07:32There is no way to go back.
07:33This is what gives it a lot of security, that is, what is there is what is there.
07:37If someone wanted to draw after an operation, you can't go back.
07:40One definition is that blockchains are the scribes of the future.
07:43As everyone has to validate the operations, there is no way to go back.
07:46When, as everyone could see the operations that were taking place in these two hours,
07:50between eight and ten thirty,
07:52there you start to see that many actors start to sell,
07:55and then we start to see the fall of the cryptocurrency, the token.
08:01Twelve and thirty-eight at night,
08:04Milley deletes the tweet and uploads this new tweet explaining that he did not know the details of the project.
08:11There, what is confirmed is that they had not hacked it, which was one of the hypotheses.
08:16But besides, he always said that they had not hacked it.
08:18No, apart from that, Lele Lemoyne herself went out to raise,
08:22earlier than ten o'clock at night, that they had not hacked it.
08:25No, Milley never hid absolutely nothing.
08:28No, no.
08:29That's why it speaks well to recognize the responsibility she had in this,
08:34and say, well, let's see, I was wrong.
08:36Now, the issue is to discover everything that she is telling.
08:39I mean, it seems to me that there are a lot of edges behind this,
08:43which must be discovered, because one also reads the news,
08:47and officials who charged to get to the president.
08:52Well, all that is around, you have to discover, someone has to discover it.
08:56That's another complaint made by one of the businessmen.
09:00The creator of Ethereum, who was in a technology forum last October.
09:04Or this guy who made a video last night saying that he was the president's advisor,
09:08and that now a new video of the president is going to come out, supporting.
09:10I mean, it seems to me that around all this, a giant ball is being put together,
09:13when in reality what you have to do is investigate justice, because here I am going to make my repair.
09:17Since the government of Macri, I, Diego Armesto, no longer believe in the anti-corruption office.
09:22I mean, when they changed the function, and by a decree they modified it.
09:26So, that I ask my lords and my children to investigate me, does not run.
09:31I mean, I think the best thing is to put everything at the disposal of justice, and that justice investigates.
09:35But now you have a complaint, I think you are going to give several.
09:38I was listening to the network, I think there are about 100 complaints.
09:41112.
09:42112, well, there are 112.
09:43How many are there?
09:44112.
09:45Well, with which justice is going to act.
09:47Well, I think that in this sincerity of the president, when he goes out at 12 and a half,
09:53to say, hey, I didn't know this had happened,
09:56it seems to me that he is going to have a good predisposition for justice,
10:00and well, here it is, investigate.
