Dan Graziano live at Radio Row talks Schotty, McCarthy, HOF class & more

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National NFL insider Dan Graziano joined Shan, RJ and Bobby live at Radio Row in New Orleans to talk about all things Cowboys, including the breaking news of who the team hired as their new offensive line coach.

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00:00What do you know about Brian Schottenheimer?

00:25Everybody likes Brian Schottenheimer.

00:27All I hear is positive things about Brian Schottenheimer.

00:29It's like, you know, all the discussion about the decision and was it right or was it wrong,

00:33is Jerry crazy, et cetera, is like, you know, everybody says, but no offense to Brian, he's

00:37a good coach.

00:38He might do really well.

00:39So I think it surprised a lot of people because Brian's obviously not out interviewing with

00:43other teams.

00:44He's not a guy that's on these lists.

00:47But yeah, I think he's a good coach who's been waiting a long time for his shot.

00:51And no pun intended.

00:53And I think, you know, I mean, he knows the team, like, here's the thing, guys, like,

01:01I mean, these first time head coaches that have been coordinated, you don't know if Ben

01:04Johnson's going to be a good head coach.

01:05You know, if Liam Cullen's going to be a good head coach, like Brian Schottenheimer's got

01:09a good chance, any of them to turn out.

01:11So I can kind of see why he wanted to keep it in house.

01:14But I, you know, I don't know.

01:16I also understand why the fans are kind of like, you know, why can't we do a big wide

01:20search like everybody else does?

01:22Do people around the league scratch their heads as to why the Cowboys operate the way

01:26they do with not really wanting to do a widespread head search?

01:30They didn't do the last time they interviewed two guys.

01:32Yes.

01:33And I remember people were surprised then as well.

01:35So I think, I mean, Jerry has a famous quote, right, about I can find 500 people to come

01:40coach his team.

01:41And I guess he's practicing what he preaches.

01:44Like he feels like, you know, I think he sees guys like, you know, Andy Reid, Sean Payton,

01:49Jim Harbaugh making like in excess of 17, 18 million dollars a year.

01:53And I think Jerry feels like that's too much to pay for that position.

01:56Like not that he doesn't have it, but just that that's sort of not that that's that's

02:01overdoing it.

02:02And that's just the way he feels.

02:04And so I think, you know, that's why you see him narrow it down a little bit like that.

02:08So I'm with Dan Graziano here on 105 for the fan.

02:11Dan, why?

02:12One of the questions we've asked of people is why not Kellen Morthen?

02:16Like if they want to go familiarity and an offensive mind and why wasn't it Kellen Morthen?

02:20Sure.

02:21Good question, because that seemed to make a lot of sense given his connections there.

02:24I don't know the state of that relationship, right, how it ended.

02:28I hadn't heard that it was bad, but I know he and Mike McCarthy had a difference of opinion

02:32when they parted ways.

02:34Could it be that Kellen has some bitterness in his in his in his memory about that?

02:39Could it be that something lingered with the Cowboys and maybe they just felt like the

02:43continuity that Schottenheimer represented was more what they wanted than going back

02:47to Kellen?

02:48I mean, they did make a decision a couple of years ago to move on from Kellen for whatever

02:51reason.

02:52So obviously there was something about him that wasn't, you know, screaming for them

02:55to keep him there in their minds.

02:57So they've been working with Brian Schottenheimer a while.

03:00They like him.

03:02You know, a lot.

03:03The Jones family relationships matter a lot.

03:06Right.

03:07I mean, Jason Garrett was kind of part of the family for for a while, and that might

03:10have kept him there longer than I think a lot of people may be expected.

03:13So maybe they have a comfort level with Brian Schottenheimer.

03:16They enjoy working with him and they find him a guy that they believe in by virtue of

03:20just the time they've spent.

03:21Dan Graziano, ESPN here on The Fan.

03:23What surprised you about the Hall of Fame announcements last night?

03:27So yeah, I mean, I saw Darren Woodson here yesterday.

03:30He didn't sound like he was very hopeful.

03:32But, you know, I the Hall of Fame, the Pro Football Hall of Fame is a is like a.

03:37Are you a voter?

03:38No, it's like a pet peeve of mine, not because I'm not a voter, but just because I don't

03:41like their process.

03:42I was a baseball Hall of Fame voter for years when I covered that sport.

03:46And that always felt like, you know, we got a lot of grief for it.

03:49But like you get a ballot in the mail, you mail it back in.

03:51And if 75 percent of them say yes, the guy's it right.

03:54This is like 50 people get together in a in a secret room once a year and like twist each

04:00other's arms.

04:01Right.

04:02It's like it's so filthy.

04:04Like I don't understand why they get away with it and why it's never been overhauled.

04:07So in terms of the selections, like the guys who got in seem like they deserve to get in.

04:12But their rules and the process is so strange that I don't know if you're allowed to put

04:16five in.

04:17Why not put five in like that?

04:18There seem like there are some other guys that they could have gotten that fifth spot.

04:22Were you stunned that Eli more stunned that Eli or Vinatieri didn't get in?

04:28I didn't think Eli was going to get in first ballot.

04:30I think there's enough debate over him among that group and people in general about whether

04:35I think he gets in eventually.

04:37But it didn't seem like he was enough of a slam dunk to merit first ballot.

04:41As the parent of a kicker, I was pulling for Vinatieri.

04:44I know how much it would have meant to my son, who's a division three kicker up in Maine

04:48at Colby College.

04:50But you know, it is tough.

04:52The kickers and punters have not historically gotten a lot of love in that room.

04:56I think Vinatieri gets in eventually.

04:57But you know, again, I'm not in there.

04:59I don't know.

05:00Is Orlovsky really that weird of an eater?

05:03Yes, proudly.

05:04It's so weird.

05:05I mean, he'll he'll insist that he's right, which is which is bizarre.

05:10But no, he's his food takes are very upsetting.

05:13It's one of the, I think, most irresponsible things we do at ESPN is let him go on the

05:17air and talk about food.

05:20Does McCarthy get another job?

05:22That's a good question.

05:23I don't know.

05:24He's in his 60s.

05:25Right.

05:26And that's tough.

05:27Like, I know Pete Carroll bounced back with the Raiders, but I was surprised by that as

05:30well.

05:31You know, McCarthy, there was talk of the Saints being interested, but they never actually

05:35reached out like he that was all, you know, imagined.

05:39He was free to interview for two weeks and it still is, by the way, and the Saints never

05:44did it.

05:45So, yeah, I don't know.

05:46I think it's been a while since he won a championship and what he did in Dallas for three years

05:52with twelve twelve wins three years in a row.

05:54I think that's impressive.

05:55But I also think that he's seen as someone whose offense may be, you know, people are

06:01looking for newer ideas.

06:02And I think that may be what holds him back from getting another job.

06:04Would you like some developing news, Dan Graziano?

06:06Please.

06:07Feldman, the Cowboys are targeting K-State OC and O-Line coach Connor Riley to become

06:13their new offensive line coach.

06:15Yeah.

06:16Who's that?

06:17He coached Cooper Beebe, I guess, right, at Kansas State.

06:19So there's some familiarity there.

06:20Yeah, we were talking about that this morning.

06:22It's interesting that Feldman got it.

06:24I was trying to get that confirmed.

06:26But yes, he is, you know, I think that their staffing wise, you know, they got on this

06:31a little bit late, so they might have to be doing some sort of outside the box stuff.

06:36He has familiarity with one of their key offensive linemen and, you know, he's somebody, obviously,

06:44that they and or Brian Schottenheimer feel is a prospect.

06:46Thank you, Dan.

06:47Enjoy the weekend.

06:48My pleasure.

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