00:00this script was such a gift and I just will go back to that always. It was extraordinary to
00:05read and then to see what Mary did, how she brought it to the screen. I mean, I knew something
00:12magical was happening, but then when I saw the movie, I was like, oh wow, that's what you were
00:16doing. You're a trickster. There was a lot of trust me, trust me moments. I started writing
00:26this on an iPad and now we're here. But what's interesting about that span of time of working
00:36on one project is that the bulk of those years is trying to get somebody to agree to take the risk to
00:46make the movie. And so it was a really, really a process of not giving up, a lot of no's.
00:57I really deeply believed that I had to make this movie, that I would make this movie. I never
01:01doubted that I wouldn't, but I didn't know how. And what's funny is then when you look back and
01:06now I'm here, it's like, oh, it's great. But during those seven years, there's no external
01:12confirmation that I'm going to be sitting here. And I had to really, it was tenacity at a high
01:21level, at an obnoxious level. But that we got here and then we shot in 27 days.
01:29And then, so it's this funny thing of like seven years, seven years, 27 days.
01:34So that's been the experience.
01:37The past. Yeah.
01:38It's funny, people often ask like, oh, how did you recover after a day of working on this and that?
01:44And when you have children, you come home and they couldn't. And it's like, and that's a gift in a way.
01:51It's very grounding and all those sorts of things. But I love that discussion of like,
01:56and a lot of the talk of what we said, of what we've discussed in rehearsals was like,
01:59who was Linda before this, before this event, before this crisis, before she came in?
02:03Who was this person? And I needed to figure that out through the script,
02:07through like this crisis in the script. But like, who is this person here for that?
02:11And that's something I worked on a lot with Mary and also with my person I work with, my coach.
02:17So it was, that was for me a key in unlocking the behavior now, because it's,
02:23motherhood can reveal you, reveal a lot of aspects of you that you don't like,
02:27that are really not helpful. And that you didn't know about, you didn't know that you had.
02:32And that's something the story really delves into, which I loved.
02:37So you feel like if you had done this, well, before you were another, would he stare at you?
02:42It is, yeah. No, I think it totally. It's, and it's interesting though, chatting to people last
02:54night, people who aren't parents were also saying to me, look, I related to it in this way and that
03:00way. And that's something that's always refreshing to hear that it's like, it's such a specific
03:04retelling of this situation that, as you were saying last night, you know, percentage of
03:08mothers wouldn't have experienced this kind of crisis with a very sick child. And thank God.
03:13And, but the specificity of it then makes it universal. And so anyone in a crisis or a
03:19caretaker in a crisis or anyone at the end of their rope can know the feelings that this movie's
03:25kind of expressing. Yeah. Caretaker burnout, which also comes into play in the therapy sequences.
03:34Every, nobody is capable of helping anybody, even though that's everybody's job is to be,
03:39it's like, I always imagined as the stacking dolls of helpers, but nobody is helping anybody
03:45in the movie because it's gotten to a point where it's beyond that. Like Linda,
03:51nobody can help Linda. Linda has to come to herself. And that's the ending I always describe
03:57as a very hopeful ending because it, she, whether it's going to be true or not, Linda comes to a
04:05place where she can see a different life. The idea of being a mother is that you have, you have,
04:14you've sacrificed something to bring this other being into the world that you've made them in
04:20your body. Now they're a person. And so everything is, everything continues to be for them. And it's
04:26a, it's a sacrifice of, I can't speak for all mothers, but for a lot of women of personhood,
04:32of personal identity, you become somebody's mom, but you weren't always somebody's mom.
04:37And so how to make that balance of being a person that you identify as yourself, but also being a
04:44good enough mother. And I do feel like I have seen some projects come out where, where they're
04:53getting into that. I love for more to be written and directed by women, not particularly interested
04:59in the male point of view of the subject, but that's happening more. And most of what I learned
05:05about being a mother or being a woman or being who I'm supposed to be was, was told to me by men.
05:17And so I think that the more women and not just women, but other voices, underrepresented voices
05:23too. I feel like everyone knows it's time for us to tell our own stories now. We don't want to be
05:29told anymore what, what we are. And that's very important to me. What's a movie that you watch
05:34over and over again, whether for comfort, inspiration. I'm like a Seinfeld girl. I'm so
05:41good. Even if I put that on, or if I see it's like, you know, GBS comedy or something, I'm just like,
05:46that's it. I'm watching this. My daughter just discovered Seinfeld. She's 14. And so I'm now
05:52reliving, but she's showing it to me. Like, I never saw it. She's like, you got to see this
05:57thing with the puffy shirt. It's incredible. And I'm like, I know about the puffy shirt, but anyway,
06:01I'm living through it again, discovering it. And that, yeah, that is comfort. That's like,
06:07that's just like eating a tub of ice cream.
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