00:00Exactly how much clearer do you want me to be? So I asked you this question last
00:05week and you found every which way but not to answer it. Just how many grooming
00:11gangs have we got in London? So the situation in London in relation to young
00:17people being groomed is different to the parts of the country. So we have in
00:21London is young people being groomed, use your words not mine, to be
00:25used in county lines in relation to sometimes... Okay let me make it clear, sorry
00:30I wasn't clear enough. I was told I shouldn't be saying rape gangs. They are
00:34rape gangs. I'm talking about rape gangs. I'm not talking about country lines. But
00:38to go back, nobody likes me saying rape gangs although they are rape gangs.
00:43Grooming gangs that I would call rape gangs. Tell me about them. How many of
00:47those have we got? Not country lines, those particular groups. To avoid any
00:53misunderstanding, can she define what she means by that? Yes, if you look at
00:57what's gone on in Rotherham where there are people taking young girls, grooming
01:02them for sex. That is what I'm talking about. Well we know in London there are
01:09issues about exploitation of young people but they're not as defined by the
01:13Member in her definition of what those types of gangs are. So are you saying we
01:18haven't got the same sort of gangs that are in Rotherham, Bradford and lots of
01:22other places in the country? What does she mean by that? You know full well what I
01:29mean by that. It's all over the television. You know exactly what I mean
01:32by that. These gangs of people that are grooming young girls for sex. Do we
01:39actually have those in London? Today we need to give a full answer. Can she be
01:44clear what she means by that? I'm not sure what she means. How much clearer do you
01:47want me to be? Look at the gangs that they've uncovered in other parts of the
01:52country. Do we have those gangs in London? It's a simple question. The answer
01:58is very simple. It's yes or no. I'm not asking you where those gangs are because
02:02the police might not want them to be disclosed. I'm asking you do we have
02:08those sort of gangs in London? I'm not sure why she's so nervous to say what
02:14she means. What do you mean? No, no, no. I am saying exactly what I mean. I'm saying
02:20have we got any of those grooming gangs in London? I'm unfair Chair. What is meant
02:27by the question? If she could spell it out I can answer. I've just spelled it
02:30out. Are you not listening? It's the sort of gangs that groom young girls at a
02:35young age for sex. Exactly how much clearer do you want me to be? So we do
02:42have issues in London with young girls being groomed for county lines. Some of
02:46those girls are used for sex and that's one of the reasons why I've set up
02:50things like the Lighthouse funded by City Hall. Why we've set up four hubs to
02:55help survivors of child sexual abuse. Why we're investing in London's violence and
03:00exploitation support service. Why I commissioned the HMI to look into the
03:03issue of child exploitation. Why the police service now employs 1,200 child
03:08protection officers. Why we have operations at Tyria first begun in
03:12London. Why we're the only police force that began the V100 targeting the 100 most violent. I just asked a yes-no question. So approximately how many of these gangs that I am
03:23talking about that I do not know why you don't understand the sort of gangs I'm
03:27talking about. Exactly or approximately I should say to give you leeway.
03:33Approximately how many of those gangs have we got in London? Because the public
03:37is very very rightfully concerned about this and concerned about these young
03:41women. Well I'm still not the wiser why she's so nervous about saying what she
03:46means. But in London we have V100 which is the 100 most prolific dangerous
03:52people the police target. That number goes up and down. So one month the V100
03:55may be 120 people or one month there may be 80 people and each BCU has a
04:01localized V number. So when I was in Croydon a few weeks ago the V number
04:06wasn't 100 it was a bit below. But as they reminded me people can sometimes go
04:10in that list or out that list. Thank you. Chairman I was very clear in what I was
04:16talking about. I just don't understand what it is that the mayor wants me to
04:20say that's any different. I'll leave it there. Thank you.
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