Who will win the NFL MVP? I BMitch & Finlay Show

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JP & Finlay debate whether Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, or Joe Burrow deserve to win the NFL MVP award.

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00:00I was driving in this morning and I had the NFL station on Sirius on for a little bit and

00:06There's just like preconceived notion white Brian. See if you give me MVP odds right now

00:13That Josh Allen should win this award and

00:16I

00:18Don't want to get overly caught up in the MVP award

00:22Especially whenever you get voters man, that's gonna just impact

00:26Promote who they want to win it and it seems like it seems like there are people that really just want Josh Allen to win

00:31This award if you go look at the stats

00:34Lamar has more passing yards

00:36More touchdowns. That's an exceptions Josh has more rushing touchdowns

00:41But they told Lamar that you run the ball too much

00:44You need to become a better passer and now that he's starting to pass that's what you want to give him

00:48He has a higher percentage

00:51Josh's Josh's rating is 101.4 Lamar's 121.4, you know

00:57Everything you said go barrel is killing all that. Yo, the best quarterback in the NFL this year is burrow. Yeah, he is

01:05Outrageous and like he's just not talked about because they don't have 10 wins and might not get in the playoffs

01:10But see the day is awful. See when I look at I look at this too, though

01:14Your barrel has had some amazing numbers because he has to score and all he's doing is throwing about big time

01:20If Lamar is not on the Ravens

01:23They are not winning 11 game

01:24I think if Lamar is not on the Ravens and they have just like good quarterback play not excellent because Lamar is excellent

01:30I think with Derrick Henry and with that old line, I don't think 11 game

01:34I don't either but I bet they could win eight or nine and still be in kind of contention

01:39Oh, I just I'm not necessarily making a case for Lamar or burrow

01:43But this notion that it's got to be Allen when Lamar's playing at that level and Burroughs playing at an outrageous level

01:51I just I don't I can't wrap my brain around the it has to be

01:56Now if any of the three of the what are the odds right now?

01:59Josh Allen's minus 320 Lamar Jackson's plus 250 and then Saquon Barkley is 16. No, that's where is burrow

02:07Burrow is after Barkley at 31 because they're not winning. No, they could still get in

02:12They can still get in there you get in but you talk about double-digit win teams

02:17and I think I just it seems agenda-driven with Alan if it's that it's very agenda-driven because

02:22Because he all of a sudden has a year when he's not throwing interceptions, but let's be real also been excellent

02:28I'm not trying to not touchdowns

02:30Lamar is thrown how many so Allen has 28 touchdown passes

02:35Lamar has 39 Lamar and Baker Mayfield are tied for second with 39 burrow has 42. Yeah

02:43Burroughs 42 against eight picks Lamar has 39 against four picks

02:48Burroughs leading the NFL in yards by a wide margin. What is some 4746 46 41? I mean, he's got

02:55roughly I

02:58Don't know 39 to 46 is 7 right

03:01Burroughs thrown for roughly 700 more yards than Lamar, but also significantly more attempts

03:06Yeah, I and that's not even to mention Saquon who went over 2000 and went over 2000 in 16 games

03:13Which is worth mentioning. Yeah, if he ends up bringing Dickerson's record, that's gonna be in 17

03:17I don't think Dickerson's wrong to think it's kind of unfair to compare the two

03:21I just I don't understand. Give me those numbers one more time

03:25I just I can't wrap my head around how Allen is such a significant favorite

03:29I get that there's a favor because those who vote and those who make that want him to win

03:35I think the Bills also probably have less talent than some of these other teams. We're talking about certainly Baltimore

03:40They get the ball a lot. They get a lot of our possession

03:43Give me he's minus 320. Yep, minus 320 Lamar's plus 250

03:48Because and then where was Saquon?

03:50Plus 1600. This is where I get lost

03:54all the time you tell him what analytics and stats and everything say and when you look at the true analyst instead he's not winning and

04:01Now it's because what's my like it becomes subject to jet

04:06Subjective at that point. He's got another 530 and 12 touchdowns on the ground

04:10I mean the touchdown total on the ground Allen is excellent. I'm not knocking Allen

04:15I just don't understand how this is so one-sided. I really don't well, I'm gonna go with him in Lamar

04:20Yeah, I know Burrow

04:23Because burrowing has all his story Lamar has more passing and more rushing

04:28What's gonna have more passing more passing yours in then burrow no, I'm talking about Allen Allen

04:34Since Allen is a favorite. I'm competing against

04:37He has more passing yards of him and more touchdowns. It's less interceptions than him

04:41It's a higher percentage completion rate. His quarterback rating is higher now when they run the ball

04:46He has about 300 more yards and him rushing now

04:49Allen is getting his arm because every time they get down it he uses big by to get in the end zone

04:53Lamar still has six six rushing. It's 45 total touchdowns. Whatever it is and Allen has 40

05:01Or 42. I think dude and everybody will deny and tell me I'm crazy

05:04I think it's just fatigued because Lamar's wanted twice and I want somebody else

05:09I guess should never ever come into you voting for somebody to win it what should happen and what will happen or different

05:15I don't just I agree the fact that Michael Jordan didn't win 10 straight MVPs is the biggest example of MVP

05:22fatigue like

05:25You know

05:27How to come I have a conversation with it about this morning with some guys in my writing crew and

05:31Dan Olofsky is that like he has to be the only one to win dude

05:35You crazy like you said Joe Burrow is having an amazing year as well. I think burrow

05:40Nor what say Quan is doing is asinine. Yeah

05:44I I just I care more about wins and losses and winning in the playoffs and all those things and

05:52That is something that affects both

05:56Lamar and

05:58But isn't wins and losses the reason why Allen's the favorite they have clearly the best record of the three teams bills

06:06Ravens, I mean 13 and 3 the Ravens are 11 and 5 and the Ravens have had a

06:12Couple really bad performances in which Lamar was really bad like the Raiders loss

06:18Lamar was really bad. Whereas Allen's been good throughout and their losses are only two good teams

06:23Unless you want to say the Rams aren't but the Rams are gonna be in the playoffs

06:26Um, although I agree first and foremost the fact that say Quan Barkley is not even like in the conversation is absurd

06:34There's obviously a quarterback bias just rename it a quarterback award just

06:41Do the same thing with the Heisman

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