00:00Congratulations to Cam Ward.
00:03He was awarded the Davey O'Brien last night
00:06for the nation's best QB, third hurricane ever to win that
00:10with joining Vinny Testaverde and Gino Toretta.
00:14They also won the Heisman.
00:16They did win the Heisman.
00:17He's not gonna win the Heisman.
00:18No.
00:19I mean, here's an indication
00:21of who's gonna win the Heisman.
00:24When you win the best DB and the best receiver.
00:29It's pretty good.
00:32And, but here's usually the guy
00:35who wins the Maxwell wins it, right?
00:37Yeah.
00:38But Gentry won the Maxwell.
00:43Well, he had a great season too.
00:45Awards all around.
00:46Great crop of players.
00:48Yes, I would say like, yeah.
00:50I mean, kudos to Cam Ward.
00:54And I think it's an incredible story
00:57because it's not like Cam Newton
01:03who started at Florida and then played D2,
01:07then came back to Auburn.
01:09Yeah.
01:10He never, he started in D2 cause that was it.
01:13No, he's like the new, he's like the new guy
01:15like Ed Reed, you can point to.
01:17Like, hey, nobody recruited this guy, you know,
01:20and zero stars and all that type of stuff.
01:22And here we go.
01:23What was that star?
01:24Ed Reed was what, two star?
01:26Two or three.
01:27Yeah.
01:28I mean, Cam had zero stars.
01:30Zero stars.
01:31Yep.
01:32That's crazy.
01:33Kudos to him.
01:34It's a hell of a story.
01:36I wish I could have saw it a little bit more
01:40at the highest level, you know, in the playoffs,
01:43but still excellent season, well-deserved.
01:47You still, what do you think about this?
01:49You still buy that he's going to play in this Pop-Tart Bowl?
01:53Yeah.
01:53He's playing.
01:54He said it, he doesn't lie.
01:57But what if he gets through, like, you know,
01:58I was talking about this with somebody last night.
02:00But why, here's what I don't get.
02:04Sometimes people tell you, and there is nothing about him
02:09that would indicate otherwise.
02:10Yeah.
02:11And yet you're still coming up with reasons why he won't.
02:14Well, I really only have one reason.
02:17And that's because that hell hole
02:20is basically Florida Met life.
02:22And I don't want him to, because I worry for him.
02:25You know, like, here, can you think like an athlete
02:31and a competitor and not like a Tobin?
02:35Look, I get you.
02:36The guy loves to play football.
02:37He loves to compete.
02:38He wants to be able to chuck that thing one more time.
02:42There's nothing wrong with that.
02:43We starting to make it, we starting to make it normal
02:47that, you know, if it's about money,
02:50I don't want to compete at this level.
02:52I'm waiting for the next level.
02:53Okay, but that place is a dump.
02:55I don't want him to play.
02:56He's so above that dump of a field.
02:59Again.
03:00It stinks.
03:01Is he above competing?
03:04What?
03:04No, he's not above competing.
03:05He's not above competing.
03:06Wait, here, here, understand this.
03:11He's not a bosa.
03:13He didn't come from, you know, Ohio State and high acclaim.
03:18This dude had been fighting, clawing and scratching
03:20to play football his whole life.
03:22And now that he gets there, he's going to not play.
03:25But like, it's his makeup.
03:28Like that's who he is.
03:30Oh my goodness.
03:31We are making it normal to do that.
03:33Would you be, would you hold it against him if he did?
03:35No, but I'm just saying, look at him.
03:39It's who he is.
03:41Dude, you had a great group.
03:44I don't, I don't, I've never.
03:45Just, just listen.
03:47That place has been a household.
03:48Deer King blew out his knee.
03:51You had the Wisconsin, both incidents where we got van
03:54ginkgled and the huddled around the heaters, Greg Cooper.
03:59Remember him blowing out his knee on that stupid turf.
04:01They don't take care of it.
04:03It's a dump.
04:04It's like having a, it's like having a race horse race on asphalt.
04:09It's stupid.
04:12All right.
04:12Like, uh, I don't like, uh, silly me.
04:15I just think that competitors love to compete and, and it's hard to explain
04:23that because you think of everything else other than that simple fact, you've
04:27been competing your whole life.
04:28You want to compete.
04:29Some guys do.
04:30Some guys can say, nah, I don't want to do it this time.
04:33Like, uh, I don't that, that part.
04:36I'm never going to understand.
04:38I'm just not like I'm not.
04:43Okay.
04:46I understand that you, you don't like the principle of it.
04:49No, it's not the principle of it.
04:50I'm just saying, these guys are competitors.
04:57Look, the, if, if he wants to go out there and he wants to make his
05:00receivers look good or get some more shine for Xavier to compete, because
05:04that's what he's done his whole life.
05:06Like you, you're, you're shrugging your shoulders to that, but that's like,
05:11that's how it is.
05:12Some of these guys are so intent on competing that the circumstances don't
05:17matter what I just want to win.
05:21I demand the Pop-Tart bowl move.
05:22If they want them to play, they, you know, they one time moved an entire, an
05:27entire card for John Jones because the state had looser drug restrictions.
05:32So they moved her from, from, I think it was, it was Canada.
05:36No, it was, I think it was, um, I don't remember the state it moved
05:39to, but it moved to California because they had looser restrictions.
05:43And so what I'm demanding of the Pop-Tart bowl is you move the game to
05:47hard rock stadium, take it, leave it.
05:50Like it just, like, you get a bigger crowd, one last ride and
05:54Steven Ross grows his own grass.
05:56This is, this is the difference.
05:58We have demands.
05:59This is the difference between an athlete and a, a you.
06:03Okay.
06:04It just is like, who was on a three with Diera King and who was not.
06:10Yeah.
06:10Being lazy.
06:14I just don't like a lot of, a lot of these guys.
06:17When you, when you talk to athletes, they, they will say, first
06:21and foremost, I love competing.
06:24Yeah.
06:24Right.
06:25Poor Kim kitchens is getting punked in his, in his own locker room.
06:28That's funny.
06:29It's still funny.
06:30Still funny.
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