00:00to determine what again we have to do this type of rafting tasks.
00:07You know that there are four waterfalls or four lagoons that will be carried out
00:13surely next week in rafting with special dogs.
00:17These are looking for human remains.
00:20It is the age of the boats.
00:22And if necessary, in fact, the lagoons will be exhausted.
00:25Maybe that's how the collaboration was elicited, if necessary,
00:30of the government of the province of Corrientes to be able to exhaust it
00:33because they have the means to do it.
00:35It goes back again to take, let's say, dimension, the theory of the accident.
00:42Why?
00:43Or maybe, I don't know if the accident, but that Caigado and PĂŠrez have to do with this situation
00:48and it could be the people who would have helped him.
00:51Why do I say it could be or not?
00:53Because it could have been an accident, yes, or someone saw that they took him to the truck.
00:59That is why it is extremely crucial, let's say, to determine.
01:04The eudeline.
01:05The eudeline is the key in this case, because we are not going to get tired of declaring
01:09that the only practical element is the boat.
01:12She, at this point, checked that the boat planted it.
01:18In fact, I can tell you something.
01:20The eudeline plants it the next day, and you know that she left it in a place
01:26for anyone to see it.
01:28Yes?
01:29What she didn't take into account was that it was a step from animals,
01:32and a step from an animal and it sank it.
01:35It sank, yes.
01:36That's why she had to go the next day, along with Macarena,
01:40because she couldn't find the eudeline, and she had to go herself to get the eudeline.
01:44Because at first, the eudeline had to be found by anyone, except her, obviously.
01:48Yes, that's why Rafael was here a few days ago, Dr. Gallego, who represents
01:52JosĂŠ y MarĂa today, the parents of Lohan, and he spoke especially,
01:57looking at the camera, to the eudeline.
01:59He told her, eudeline, you have to talk, because you are the one who can solve the case,
02:04in accordance with what you are telling us, Rafael.
02:09You know that, yes.
02:11Here, look, the eudeline has the key.
02:14Yes?
02:15The eudeline has the key to this case.
02:18On the other hand, I think Macarena knows the same as the eudeline,
02:24another person who would also have to speak.
02:28The psychiatric and psychological tests of Dr. Cristal are already there,
02:32they are still reserved.
02:34The judge has knowledge, the prosecutors, now we are going to talk about the prosecutors,
02:39and also the minor's advisor, Dr. Marini.
02:42But the lawyers have not agreed to the same yet.
02:46In the next few days, Macarena will surely be fired.
02:48It is not yet known in what quality, whether as a witness or as a defendant.
02:52Here are three people, eudeline, Macarena and Maciel.
02:58They are the three who know for sure what happened to Lohan.
03:03Why don't they speak?
03:04Why don't they speak?
03:05And this is the big question.
03:06To be able to fix their situation, to improve it before justice.
03:10And well, and there would be, Guillermo, there would be a judicial strategy.
03:15In the case that Macarena is detained,
03:19we remember that Macarena is in charge of his two brothers,
03:23on the part of his mother, the children of Benitez and eudeline.
03:26These boys would go directly to an institution,
03:30because there is no one in charge of them.
03:32Perhaps it would be an element that could affect eudeline.
03:36On the other hand, there is also, let's see,
03:40why does this hypothesis regain strength?
03:43For the following.
03:44We remember that here appears the general, Major General RodrĂguez, right?
03:48Yes.
03:49The head of complex crimes and cybercrime in the province,
03:52in this situation.
03:54And that inexplicably, when he was under the custody of Carlos PĂŠrez,
04:00Carlos PĂŠrez is already arrested, yes?
04:02The iPhone is activated at 8 in the morning and turns off at 7 in the afternoon.
04:08In this internet that is activated, being kidnapped,
04:11we remember, messages are erased.
04:14What did those messages have?
04:16In some way, it goes back again,
04:18to look at Carlos PĂŠrez and Victoria Caillava.
04:22Because they would have messages that would be important
04:25or compromising towards them.
04:27And we remember the other fact, apart from the boot,
04:30that I was forgetting.
04:32The dogs that are positive in the truck and in the red Ford.
04:36In the truck, there are some doubts,
04:39because in the following days,
04:42many of the Slovene brothers were in the truck,
04:44helping in the search.
04:45But not in the red Ford.
04:47And there is a key fact.
04:49When they go,
04:51that is, they theoretically go to see the game,
04:55River, that day.
04:57At one point they go hunting
04:59and Carlos PĂŠrez turns off his cell phone for 40 minutes.
05:02Yes?
05:03Why did he turn off his cell phone for 40 minutes?
05:06That is the key.
05:07So that they don't take the antennas.
05:09And there, one who has to follow the investigation,
05:12says, it was a place that could have demanded
05:1520 minutes of life and 20 minutes of return.
05:18And there we put the point
05:22where it could have been some of those water mirrors.
05:25Because it was the weather.
05:27And perhaps some of the closest to PĂŠrez's position that was there.
05:30Rafa, did the tracking go wrong?
05:33Did it go wrong by accident?
05:35Why do you think they went wrong?
05:37And do you expect that it can be the result,
05:41that it can shed light, in this case,
05:44of these eventual tracks,
05:46and drain the lagoon if possible?
05:49Look, I consider that the tracking
05:52was not done in the right way.
05:54You can see there the tracking that was done
05:57with K9 dogs around the lagoon.
06:00And now what is asked for is something else.
06:02It is asked for from above a boat
06:05with RHS dogs, human beings,
06:07which are special binomials,
06:09with divers too,
06:10or they are going to participate in the IP
06:12or this is a request to the agency,
06:14and they are going to look.
06:15And if they don't find anything,
06:17they are going to ask for the lagoon to be drained.
06:21And the government of the province of Corrientes
06:23has precisely the elements to be able to do it.
06:26At this point, if there was a body, Rafa,
06:28it would already be emerged, let's say,
06:31by the swelling itself that occurs after so long.
06:34If there could be a body,
06:36it would have to have been thrown with some weight element
06:39so that it stays down in that sense, right?
06:42Well, let's see, there I tell you two things,
06:45because this is sensitive to research,
06:48but I can give you two facts.
06:50First, keep in mind that in the supposed case
06:54that Carlos PĂŠrez may be guilty of this situation,
06:57following this line,
06:58Carlos PĂŠrez is a person,
07:00like being the captain of a ship,
07:02he has the necessary knowledge of how to discard.
07:06Exactly, sink a body and don't float.
07:09We are talking about something unfortunate,
07:11but we have to do it.
07:12It seems to me that this data should not be left to pass, let's say.
07:17And on the other hand, it is an area where there is embalming.
07:21The embalming makes that in the supposed case
07:24that there is a body,
07:26it stays down and the seat does not come out either, right?
07:29Of course, of course.
07:30There are two circumstances that must be taken into account.
07:32Finally, Rafael,
07:34what I believe that many people do not close
07:36is that this tracking comes from
07:38that there may have been an accident
07:41and as a result of this accident, discarding the body.
07:43Not to say, unfortunately we ran over a boy
07:47because he had taken,
07:49it seems to me that ...
07:50A stupidity.
07:51Of course, just like that.
07:52For the shame that he has committed.
07:53For a guilty murder.
07:54Of course.
07:55You don't even go to jail.
07:56Today we are talking about a life sentence.
07:58Today, of course.
07:59Do you know what the last thing, Guillermo?
08:01Yes.
08:02The last thing I want to make clear,
08:04a special request by the parents and others
08:08to the prosecutors.
08:10In the last hearings,
08:12they have not been presented,
08:13neither the prosecutor MartĂn de GuzmĂĄn,
08:14nor the prosecutors of the PROTEX.
08:16The PROTEX, that, right?
08:17The PROTEX is no longer participating,
08:18as if they were already bored with the case.
08:20Yes, but you know that formally,
08:22no, it did not leave us.
08:23They do not appear,
08:24the hearings do not appear,
08:26then the judge, for example,
08:28had to take measures to detain
08:30some of the people who,
08:31in the last few days,
08:32were just taking testimonials
08:34and he could not do it because there are no prosecutors.
08:36Of course.
08:37So, the request,
08:39we take advantage of it,
08:40in this case, the media,
08:41so that they are going to make a request
08:43in the last few days
08:44so that two prosecutors join the cause.
08:46Because there are no prosecutors,
08:47the judge cannot act as a prosecutor
08:48and a judge at the same time.
08:49Dr. Gallego said it the other day, right?
08:51Yes.
08:52He asked for two more prosecutors.
08:53He asked for two more special prosecutors.
08:55There should be a specialized prosecution,
08:57there should be, let's say.
08:59Today?
09:00Yes.
09:01Today the judge is tied up,
09:03the judge is tied up
09:04because she cannot request the detention
09:07of any of them.
09:08Of course.
09:09For example,
09:10a person who would be very involved
09:11would be Major Inspector General RodrĂguez,
09:13or if not, it's Perito too, right?
09:15MarĂa Lescano,
09:16who is in prison, Perito Falcao.
09:17And they can't do it
09:18because they don't have the element.
09:19So, a request
09:20to please,
09:21precisely,
09:22help the prosecutors,
09:23right?
09:24In this case.
09:25A police structure
09:26so big
09:27that it got in the way,
09:28without a doubt,
09:29and there is only one detainee
09:30who is Maciel.
09:31Obviously,
09:32there are many more people behind.
09:33Of course.
09:34There is no doubt about this.
09:35The sinuous path
09:36of the investigation
09:37of the Lohan case.
09:38Rafael,
09:39thank you very much
09:40for this contact.
09:42No, thank you.
09:43Greetings to Guillermo,
09:44greetings to GermĂĄn
09:45and to the whole team.
09:46Goodbye.
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