00:00...processed with preventive prison, logically the ones you already know, Benítez, Benítez,
00:09Laudelina, Millapi, Ramírez, Carlos Pérez, María Victoria Caillaba, the ex-minister,
00:17the ex-secretary of planning on July 9th, and Maciel, with a surprise, two surprises
00:23rather, one that has to do with Commissioner Maciel, there you have it, at the top right,
00:29the Commissioner Maciel, who in addition to being accused of cover-up by Judge Cristina
00:34Pózar-Penso, also processed as a necessary participant in the subtraction of the OAN,
00:42of the theft of the OAN, that is, if it had not been Maciel, it would not have been possible
00:49the subtraction, the theft of the OAN, that means, roughly, the necessary participation,
00:55and the second novelty, to Millapi they made him a price, in some way.
00:59Yes, but there is another part, there is another part that I do not understand, and there, Hanson
01:03can evacuate me the consultation, why do you threaten, what do they refer to?
01:13To Caillaba and Maciel.
01:14To Caillaba and Maciel, what is the threat based on?
01:17Well, I think that, look, the file came out for us today at 7 in the morning, they notified us,
01:26and we began to read it, obviously, we focused on the part of Ramírez and Millapi, and also
01:34on the rest, in what is substantial, but well, in short, there is a version there regarding
01:44that situation, which varied, it is true, because before it was for the cover of Maciel,
01:49now the threats are added, and I understand that it is all related to the issue of the boot.
01:55The issue of the boot.
01:58Yes.
02:00As he would have threatened who?
02:05Well, that's what, the resolution itself is not clear in any aspect, neither regarding the role
02:11that each one fulfilled, I have succinctly read to try to find the reason why he assigns
02:21one or another role, but the judge preferred to deny everyone authority, that is, co-authority,
02:27and to everyone he throws the same crime and adds, the one for Caillaba and Maciel, the one of threats.
02:35And now what?
02:37In short, they are all co-authors of the subtraction and concealment of Loban, which is very difficult
02:46to understand, because no matter how much one reads and rereads the resolution, what one must find
02:52in those resolutions is how each one executed the part that he assigns, or they were all together,
02:59taking him from here to there, that is, it is not described in a functional way how that co-authority would be.
03:08Now, Marcelo, real, what weight does the doctor's resolution have in front of the federal chamber?
03:19What weight does it have?
03:22No, the chamber is independent, the judges will sentence according to their conviction or not,
03:31of what they can read, and of the abuses we present. Obviously, the issues that are not a matter of complaint,
03:38that are not abuses, they will not touch them.
03:41Okay, but for people, so that people can understand, what is the function of the chamber judge?
03:49The chamber judge does not investigate.
03:51No, he reviews the decision.
03:53What does he do?
03:55He reviews the decision of the inferior, that is, of the instruction judge, if according to the elements
04:04that he analyzed, the merit resolution is well dictated, which can be, in this case, a process that we are going to appeal,
04:11but it can also be that the prosecution appeals the lack of merit, there are two lacks of merit there.
04:18I would believe that no, because of the situation and what they asked for,
04:22but it could be the case that the chamber has to analyze a lack of merit and review it,
04:27understanding that the process corresponds.
04:29What are the lacks of merit? Those of your defendants, those of Ramírez and Millapi?
04:33Of all, because of all those who were accused, what happens is that in the case of the first three,
04:39Benítez, Millapi and Ramírez, were accused of abandonment of person,
04:43a qualification that is dictated by the lack of merit.
04:47Then there is the indictment for all the first six, Laudelina did not enter.
04:53Hanson, wait, give me a second.
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