📢 LOAN: "MACARENA, TU MAMÁ VA A PERPETUA SI NO HABLÁS" - juan Pablo Gallego - video Dailymotion

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El equipo de Alerta 24/7 cuestionó al abogado Juan Pablo Gallego por sus conflictos personales y su enfoque en el caso.  👉 Seguí en Alerta 24/7

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00:00Was it sent to someone?

00:03Maybe yes, I don't doubt it, maybe yes.

00:07At that moment, did you realize, José,

00:09that they were insisting too much on taking pictures of your son?

00:12Yes, I don't know.

00:14They are used to taking pictures.

00:16And I don't distrust anything.

00:18The aunts, the cousins, they were there.

00:21Why distrust?

00:22You don't take pictures and then send them back to you,

00:25or remember that day.

00:28But I didn't think about that.

00:32Here, what you see,

00:34I will never question my parents.

00:39Never.

00:40Until I have some kind of proof that says otherwise,

00:45I will not question it.

00:46Yes, maybe.

00:47Yes, maybe.

00:48What I asked for was a tie.

00:50What I was talking about today,

00:53with what I talk about in my house, for example.

00:56In this case, he tells you that he didn't distrust the aunts

00:59because they were your cousins.

01:00At the time of the agreement.

01:02Yes, yes, today he said that.

01:04But give me what he said at home, let's see.

01:08Here, now, one that is from the street,

01:11do you notice people's movements and faces?

01:14Something strange?

01:15Actually, nothing strange.

01:17Nothing, the aunt, when she spoke to you, normal?

01:19Yes.

01:20Normal?

01:21Yes.

01:22Did you come the same?

01:23Yes.

01:24Well, what I thought was that I had already left,

01:26I thought, here, here, here, here.

01:28And I left.

01:32What did they say?

01:33No, no.

01:34What did they say?

01:35No, there is a camp there, a camp there.

01:37Did your daughter get sick?

01:39No, my daughter is calm now.

01:41She doesn't go out.

01:4276 years old.

01:43It's a big camp.

01:4476 years old.

01:45She doesn't go out anymore.

01:46It's a big camp.

01:47She doesn't go to the mortars, she doesn't go to the guerrillas,

01:48she doesn't go to the hostages.

01:49Because you see,

01:50here what you are going to have to get used to, José,

01:52and I am going to be honest with you,

01:54I am a very special journalist,

01:56I am not the one who is very normal.

01:59They told me that they are a gang, the family.

02:03Do you belong to that?

02:05No.

02:06No?

02:07No, I'm Catholic.

02:08People talk to you.

02:10People talk to you.

02:11So what's best for me is to ask you and you answer me.

02:14I'm for the saints, but no.

02:16Do you think this can be something satanic,

02:18what the saints say and all that?

02:20No.

02:21No?

02:22No.

02:23What did you feel when your sister said it was an accident?

02:27I saw it as a lie.

02:29It was a lie?

02:30Yes.

02:31But it's a lie.

02:32When did you start trusting your sister?

02:35And it's not trust after,

02:37when she got married to the other, you see.

02:40That's when I started.

02:42And I didn't do anything, you see.

02:45Do you trust your sister?

02:48Well, more or less, yes.

02:50Look, here what you have is that,

02:52in all the interviews I've been given,

02:54he never names Ramírez and Amillapi.

02:56Never.

02:57He didn't have them registered.

02:58He never names Ramírez and Amillapi.

03:00And today he clearly said Ramírez and Amillapi, Benítez.

03:06But let's see what he said today.

03:08Let's see.

03:11Did you start suspecting something strange?

03:13Yes.

03:14I suspected one or two.

03:16And I said, no, they did something to her.

03:18One or two? Who?

03:19Amillapi, Ramírez and Benítez.

03:21There were three of them there.

03:23And I said, why did my sister have to go all the way to the gate and come back?

03:28But why?

03:29Did you suspect that they had taken her?

03:32Of course.

03:33And how could we not find her?

03:35There was a twist in everything.

03:39Because you went out to the mountains and saw the other side.

03:44Of course.

03:45Go that way.

03:48Well, here, clearly,

03:50Indigo or Carlos, you who are very attentive, Lu too,

03:56here he focuses directly on Amillapi, Ramírez and Benítez.

04:00Yes.

04:01You know that when I listened to the interview you gave him,

04:03I thought, with respect to what you did to Andino today,

04:07a great note.

04:09I said, well, maybe over time he began to doubt his relatives.

04:12But in the note with Andino he says that at first he begins to suspect

04:16Amillapi and Ramírez.

04:18That difference from what you were saying three or four months ago, right?

04:21Yes.

04:22When he came here.

04:23When he came here, of course.

04:24In the last few days, and now we are going to be talking to Marcelo Hanson,

04:27who is Amillapi's lawyer, Ramírez, who has asked for an oversight of his clients.

04:31You know what's going on.

04:32Juan Pablo Gallego named and focused on Ramírez and Amillapi.

04:38We do not understand whether to shed light on the cause or to hit him,

04:45let's say, give a shot of elevation to Hanson himself.

04:48I want to ask you, to get all the people who are out of the program,

04:53if not my colleagues, my colleagues, my friends.

04:57When I heard that Dr. Gallego said that we were facing a coup d'état,

05:05what does it mean?

05:06What?

05:07Yes, so I said the same thing as you.

05:09What?

05:10So.

05:11Today with Andino?

05:12Yes.

05:13Ah, I didn't hear it.

05:14That they wanted to give a coup d'état.

05:15A coup d'état.

05:16Yes, I don't understand.

05:17A posteriori during the investigation.

05:19I mean, one can ...

05:20But stop, stop, a coup d'état is something else, guys.

05:23Yes, it is a figure totally ...

05:25I mean, we go from the football metaphors ...

05:28No, no, and besides, it is the government's dismissal.

05:32A coup d'état in the Plaza de Corrientes, he said.

05:36I want to hear that cut, because the truth is that to give an opinion on something so delicate without ...

05:40No, and besides, of course, what context did he say?

05:42That's why I support you guys and I ask you for your help too,

05:45because it seemed a lot to me, but maybe you tell me,

05:48no, Nahú, it's in the context of this ...

05:50I want to hear it.

05:51Listen to it.

05:53Vera declared, confessed that he runs on July 9th,

06:00and through Dr. Cutaya,

06:05who now offered to put new lawyers to support his version,

06:09in the same way that he put ...

06:11But that was all later, doctor, they appear after the scene.

06:14Of course, but Macarena was.

06:16Okay, but Vera appears ... What is Vera's interest?

06:20Well, you'll have to explain it.

06:22He also wanted to give a coup d'état.

06:24He felt the Aldo Rico of this era, painted yellow,

06:29who was going to give a coup d'état.

06:31Then I say, here they stole a boy.

06:33So, what interested him was Vera, who is filmed,

06:37and what Vera declared, who was filmed.

06:39Let's see, who comes up with it?

06:40Go with a truck on July 9th, tell Cutaya,

06:43Bring me Camila.

06:45Investigation of Vera Camila.

06:47Bring me Macarena.

06:48A 21-year-old girl.

06:50Lock her in my truck for an hour.

06:52How?

06:53Macarena and Camila have to testify before the court,

06:56not before Mr. Vera.

06:57Now, Juan Pablo, this is circumscribed to current,

07:01to July 9th, I say,

07:03no further, no border crossing,

07:05or at this point we no longer know?

07:08We know that there are many people who know where Logan is,

07:12and who did with Logan.

07:13So we ask you to return it and tell us where it is.

07:16I understood.

07:17I already understood what he meant.

07:19Totally unfortunate, right?

07:21Eh?

07:22Totally unfortunate.

07:23What does Aldo Rico have here?

07:25It's true, but it's true.

07:26At some point, let's see, I take out the coup d'état,

07:28a delirium, a delirium.

07:30No, but we can't let the deliriums pass like that.

07:33No, it's okay.

07:34Let me subtitle it.

07:36Juan Pablo Gallego.

07:37I know you love him, he's your friend, whatever you want.

07:40No, I don't love him.

07:41But it seems to me that there are unfortunate phrases, guys.

07:44Nothing, guys.

07:45It seems to me that...

07:46But he incriminates himself.

07:47Why do I say that?

07:48Because it's true, there were parallel states.

07:51Who has the power to investigate, to judge justice?

07:55The judicial power.

07:56The police, the state.

07:58The judicial power.

07:59The police power, as they say.

08:01The power to investigate it is held by justice

08:04and uses the auxiliaries of justice,

08:06which are the security forces.

08:07Perfect.

08:08Good.

08:09So what he meant to tell me,

08:10it gives me the feeling that there were certain characters

08:13who did a parallel investigation.

08:16Parallel.

08:17In this case, those who used the facade of the Dupuy Foundation

08:21to make cameras, to interview minors.

08:25A coup d'état is to overthrow a government, isn't it?

08:28Yes, yes, yes.

08:29Look, first, in non-verbal communication,

08:34there is a lot of doubt in what Juan Pablo was saying.

08:39Again, I always tell you, I have written to him,

08:41he stopped answering me, I don't know why.

08:43Everyone has their own way of acting.

08:46A lot of this in his answer.

08:48This, this, and you know that this is a resource

08:51to think about what you are going to say.

08:53And it seems very serious to me, again,

08:56to raise a cloud of smoke, coup d'état.

09:03Loan has disappeared five months ago.

09:06The lawyer goes with the family.

09:08To Guille's show.

09:10And he starts talking.

09:11He really wanted to give a coup d'état.

09:13Let me say something.

09:14That is, that is.

09:15There I criticize him.

09:16Diego, Diego.

09:17Yes.

09:18Speaking in the Loan case of a coup d'état is the same.

09:22This is the same.

09:23Remember you.

09:24This is the same people who talked about the Dupuy band.

09:27A delirium.

09:28To infuriate the Rufui family.

09:29He said it today.

09:30Today he was talking about the Dupuy band again.

09:32What is the only thing that Gallego did until today, for me?

09:36Deliver personal battles.

09:38He fought with Vera.

09:40He fought with Ramón Dupuy.

09:42He fought with us.

09:44He fought with Mónica Chiribín.

09:48He is trying, in my understanding,

09:50to fight with Marcelo Hanson.

09:52Let's say he swept the field.

09:54But what amazes me, let's see,

09:56because, let's see, at one point he says,

09:59he grabs and says,

10:01to this 21-year-old girl.

10:04But suddenly I hear that he turns around and says,

10:07Macarena, return Loan.

10:09Macarena.

10:11Is the 21-year-old girl Macarena, return Loan?

10:14He said, Macarena, return Loan,

10:16because your mother may have a life sentence.

10:19Well, you give me the right foot,

10:21because Loan's mother went to Macarena's house, right?

10:28But what security do you have?

10:30I say that too.

10:31I think...

10:32To do something that should not be done,

10:34and that is to go to court.

10:36No, but let's see,

10:37I'm not going to say anything to the mother and the father,

10:39because it's all worth it.

10:40Yes.

10:41Yes, to get your son back, it's all worth it.

10:42La Querella caught minors,

10:44to look for minors,

10:45to make reconstructions,

10:46outside the court too.

10:48I think you have to be very prudent.

10:50Very prudent.

10:52Ramírez and Misiapis are the ones who kidnapped Loan.

10:57The head, the brain of all this is Laudelina.

11:01And Macarena returned Loan.

11:04So...

11:05But I don't want to say it.

11:06Look, listen to him.

11:08And I take this opportunity to ask you, Macarena,

11:10Macarena Peña,

11:12let's finish with the lies

11:14and the threats of Mr. Vera

11:17in that famous meeting,

11:19in that strange inquiry, Macarena,

11:22where Vera tells you not to speak,

11:24where Vera tells you not to return Loan.

11:28Let's finish with this.

11:29Macarena, you are not the one who sank Loan's shoe.

11:34It was your mother.

11:36You are not covering her, you are sinking her.

11:39Your mother goes on forever if you don't speak.

11:41So I returned Loan, Macarena.

11:44Your mother was so clumsy

11:46that her shoe sank

11:48and she had to be dragged later with a stick

11:50when she wanted to make it appear.

11:52These kidnappers are so stupid.

11:55So, Macarena, don't be afraid.

11:57They are deceiving you, they are threatening you.

11:59Mr. Vera is appointing lawyers to all the prisoners

12:02so that they don't speak, to save himself.

12:05Mr. Vera writes letters to himself

12:08to avoid being called where he is going to be called.

12:11Macarena, don't be afraid.

12:13Tell the truth. Return your cousin.

12:15Return your cousin.

12:17Return...

12:18It's a lot, I think.

12:20For me, it's a threat.

12:22I don't know if it's a threat.

12:24I don't have a license, I'm not a criminal lawyer.

12:26But you study law. What is coercion?

12:30Before I answer, I'm just a student.

12:33We have a connected criminal lawyer

12:35who knows a lot more than us about the cause.

12:38It's Marcelo Hanson.

12:40Who better than him to read

12:42what happened just a few hours ago

12:45in this studio, in Guillermo Andino's show.

12:48How are you, Marcelo?

12:52Marcelo, are you there?

12:54Well, now we're going to connect it.

12:57For me, it's a veiled threat.

12:59One thing is a person who is accused of being arrested.

13:02He is a loyal lawyer.

13:04Let him talk to Laudelina.

13:07Well, obviously, the court considered

13:09that there are enough reasons to imprison Laudelina,

13:12to prevent her.

13:14Now, we are talking about Macarena,

13:17who is a person who owes nothing to justice.

13:20Absolutely nothing. She is not accused.

13:23She is not accused of any crime.

13:25I think she will be called to witness.

📢 LOAN: "MACARENA, TU MAMÁ VA A PERPETUA SI NO HABLÁS" - juan Pablo Gallego

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