Why Campbell Doesn't Pull Players Out Sooner

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00:00Durant, thank you for politely checking me here because not everybody was quite as nice

00:06on the ticket text earlier today, but just to reset what I said, Dan Campbell eventually

00:11pulled Jared Goff and has done that a couple times this year.

00:14It's not soft to pull your starting quarterback when you're up a bunch of touchdowns, okay?

00:19My question was, why when they were up 36 points, was that not enough?

00:23You've got like a quarter and a couple minutes, you're up 36 points.

00:27To me, that felt unnecessary to put Goff out there.

00:29You can't bench everybody, but why is your starting quarterback on a season where you

00:34are chasing the Super Bowl, playing up 36 points?

00:37You're going to pull him eventually, so you can't tell me, well, he needs to finish the

00:40game.

00:42Why is he in at that point?

00:43That was the question.

00:45Was that part of the overreact, Jim?

00:46No, that's a separate part of your Monday presentation.

00:50That's called six to 10 every day.

00:52Okay.

00:53That was just a reaction.

00:55TJ, John, you guys, you both played, like clearly I'm missing something here.

01:00Coach is right.

01:01You don't go into games thinking, okay, guys, hey, let's get to the fourth quarter and then

01:05here's our target number.

01:06As players, you might.

01:08I think you start to know, especially as the game starts going on, all right, guys, a couple

01:11more drives, let's finish this thing off, get some water.

01:14I don't really have a definitive answer for why coaches want to wait so long, other than

01:20you feel like you're in a rhythm, you feel like your quarterback's playing really well,

01:23you want to maybe maximize the snaps for the positive plays and the momentum and keep stacking

01:30success going into the next week.

01:33I don't know if that's enough for people to say, oh, it's not worth it to risk an injury,

01:37but you can't ever think that way.

01:39And Jared came in at what was at the end of the third quarter, he finished the drive,

01:44which ended up taking a couple more minutes, I think in the fourth quarter, and then they

01:47were done.

01:48You kind of knew at that point, okay, guys, go finish the drive.

01:50Let's end on a high note and get the hell out of here.

01:53But you can't think in the back of your mind that, oh, we got to save him because he's

01:58going to get hurt.

01:59You can't think that way.

02:00Well, they do.

02:01They do.

02:02At some point, they do think that because that's why they pull him.

02:03Right?

02:04Why else would you pull him?

02:05At some point, the coach does consider that he could get injured by playing in a meaningless

02:08fourth quarter.

02:09My question is just when.

02:10I don't think it's that.

02:11I think it's more of, okay, you've done your job today.

02:15Great job.

02:16It's kind of dangling the carrot in front of your face and go give me a couple more

02:18plays and let's give the other guys some meaningful reps.

02:21I mean, Hendon Hooker still could use every rep possible.

02:23And I thought he was three for four, and even the one that was dropped, I think it was a

02:27good ball.

02:28I think it was a good ball.

02:29Allen Robinson jumped.

02:30He probably didn't have to.

02:31Yeah.

02:32Maybe some alligator arms.

02:33I think he just jumped when he didn't have to, and he left his feet and you took a big

02:36shot.

02:37But I think that's more of what goes into it.

02:38And look, a lot of these guys, too, with contracts these days, playing time incentives, right?

02:43Statistical incentives.

02:44Pene Sewell is a guy that we look at and we're like, man, 58.

02:48These guys think about their snap streaks that they have going on.

02:50Hey, man, I've never missed a snap, right?

02:53I'm not going to break that now.

02:54Coach, you're not taking me out of the game.

02:56So you think about a lot of those things as well.

02:57Well, and John, you brought up the debate here is you can't pull your entire offensive

03:01line.

03:02So who are you going to rest?

03:04And you said, well, correctly, Frank's dealing with a pack.

03:06Hey, let's get Frank out of the game.

03:09And then Decker was dealing with the shoulder, right?

03:11Now, to me, Sewell's the better player and the guy I don't want to lose.

03:14No one's going to argue that.

03:15But your point was, yeah, Zeitler is older as well.

03:19Now, Graham was still in there, but he's he's also been a guy that has a track record of

03:23being reliable.

03:24I think you bring up a great point.

03:27It's hard to think about incentives at this time of the year, but there are certain incentives

03:32that guys have in their contract that are a certain percentage of offensive plays.

03:37And if you get to the end of the year, would you rather be pulled in a game like this where

03:42things are going really well versus sit against Minnesota for three quarters?

03:47Yeah.

03:48Now, all of a sudden, you're in a position where, hey, Coach, I'm literally only like

03:51half a percent away from making my, you know, snap streak.

03:56But the playoffs are on the line.

03:58The bye week is there.

03:59And, you know, coaches are more apt to to remove you earlier in that game than they

04:03are in this one.

04:04And statistically, too.

04:05I mean, you know, if Amin Ra's got a bonus, you know, for touchdowns or yards, Jared Goff

04:10says, hey, coach, I get me out of the game.

04:12You know what I mean?

04:13Is he going to get that with Hendon Hooker?

04:14Probably.

04:15You know what I mean?

04:16So there's there's all the I think there's thoughts that go into that as well.

04:17And these are considerations that absolutely do happen.

04:21The biggest consideration is a healthy roster who has to play 13 straight games.

04:25When can I give guys a breather?

04:26I got to get to the finish line.

04:27The Super Bowl is the biggest incentive, more than your personal incentive.

04:30Yes.

04:31But players, players don't want to come out, though.

04:32Yeah.

04:33You know what I mean?

04:34Players don't want to come out, especially when you're playing a game like that and you're

04:35rolling and you got a chance.

04:36Everything is working.

04:37You don't want to come out of that game.

04:39You just don't.

04:40Yeah.

04:41OK.

04:42Ticket Texture says we're dancing around the real answer.

04:44Goff is an MVP candidate, says he's erased the five interception game with that performance.

04:49TJ, I want to get your response to that coming up next, because the market has shifted.

04:53Jerry Goff fell off the map from the MVP betting last week.

04:57He's back in the thick of it.

04:58We'll get your.

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