Caller Wishes Harbaugh Never Happened

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00:00I've been saying the same thing Gov said for quite some time now.

00:04It all feels tainted.

00:05It just don't, I mean, it just don't feel like it was worth it in the long run.

00:11But I was talking to my wife this morning before she left for work.

00:15Me and my dad have been season tickets holders for over 15 years now.

00:19And I looked at her and said, I don't even want to go Saturday night.

00:23And I can never remember saying that.

00:25I've already given my Oregon tickets to my son and his buddy.

00:28You know, let's go have fun.

00:29They're young, they can't afford the $200 tickets.

00:32I just can't give them to them and go over there and deal with it.

00:35I just, I mean,

00:38Is it, Jeff, let me ask you this question.

00:41Is it because you think they might lose or because you just feel like it's going to be

00:46a boring watch?

00:49Probably a little bit of both, honestly, John.

00:54I don't think that, I think Michigan State's in a much better spot than Michigan now.

00:58And it shouldn't be that way.

01:01I think Harbaugh left us, you know, in a pretty bad spot.

01:05You know, for a quote unquote, air quotes, Michigan man that would stand on a pulpit

01:10and scream at the top of his lungs, who's got it better than us?

01:13Well, let me see, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan State.

01:17You know, are you going down the list or is that good enough for right now?

01:21Yeah, you can stop.

01:22You can keep going.

01:23We got the idea.

01:24But I mean, he basically flipped us the bird and said,

01:27I got mine.

01:28Screw you.

01:29And out the door he went.

01:30I agree.

01:31I mean, I'm probably one of the few minorities that would say I would give it all back if

01:41Harbaugh would have never showed up.

01:43I remember the day he got hired.

01:45I was bouncing off the wall.

01:46We got to coach.

01:47We got to coach.

01:48Seven years later, it was like, why?

01:51Jeff, you'd take it back?

01:53I'm just, again, from afar here, you got to kick Ohio State's ass three straight years

02:00and go to the playoff and win a national title.

02:03Things you never dreamed you were going to do when Harbaugh took over because of how

02:07bad the program was.

02:10But was it worth it in the long run?

02:13Yes.

02:14I would answer yes, but I'm not a Michigan fan.

02:16Greg, you, you're an alum.

02:17You have the degree.

02:18You think it's worth it, right?

02:20This is letting your present circumstances hold you hostage.

02:25Come on, guys.

02:26A national championship.

02:29Three years of tremendous football.

02:31He's saying throughout the entire Harbaugh era, like, John, you want to go to Brady Holk?

02:37Right.

02:38John, I remember the joy and when they first beat Ohio State at the big house and the scene

02:44in Ann Arbor, you would take away the joy you felt that day because you don't like this

02:49team and what's going to be a throwaway season.

02:51I'm not going even that far.

02:53I'm just talking about the dark cloud like that is over it since it's a it's really dark,

02:58I think.

02:59But I'm not going to change.

03:00Like, I went to the Ohio State game last year with my son.

03:02I'm not taking that away.

03:04I just feel like it feels dirty, you know, and they're getting what they deserve.

03:10But to his point about Jim Harbaugh, we talk about legacy all the time.

03:15And I'll just ask this question because I've always thought that if you really love something,

03:20if you really care about something, you're going to leave it better off than when you

03:24got there.

03:25And, okay, Michigan won three games against Ohio State.

03:29They won three Big Ten championships.

03:31They played in three college football playoffs.

03:34They won a national title.

03:35Those are all great memories.

03:37But after he left, is the program this year better off than than the year the last year

03:46of Brady Hoke?

03:47Well, they went five and seven that season.

03:49And you may remember there was the whole thing with Shane Morris and, you know, the handling

03:53of the players.

03:54It was kind of crap.

03:55But but my point is that the tenor of the program at the time was these guys are a bunch

03:59of idiots, right?

04:00A bunch of doofuses.

04:01They don't.

04:02Michigan is a sorry program.

04:04I mean, John, it feels like five and seven may be coming back again.

04:08But in the middle, you had the best run of Michigan football in a lifetime run.

04:13I'm talking about did he leave it in the same condition that he inherited it?

04:20Yes.

04:21There you go.

04:22Five and seven.

04:23And maybe they end up with six wins.

04:25Listen, as far as the game with Michigan State goes.

04:29You asked the guy, is it because it's going to be a boring game?

04:31I think it's kind of an unpredictable game in the sense that both teams turn the ball

04:34over a lot.

04:35I think Michigan State is the better team and will win.

04:37But I don't think like the game itself is boring.

04:40Well, you think I don't want the ball.

04:43You take it.

04:44No, I don't want it.

04:45You take it.

04:46That's unpredictable.

04:47No, I don't want it.

04:48You take it.

04:49You think that's exciting?

04:50When probability graph is spiking like like, you know, someone having a heart attack.

04:52Yeah, it's going to be one of those games.

04:54That's that's got some juice to it.

04:55I'm not telling you it's brilliantly, beautifully executed football.

04:58It's far from it.

04:59It's far from the idea that it's boring.

05:00No, I don't know, MSU.

05:02Childs had the game against Boston College where he gave the game away three different

05:05times.

05:07I think he's gotten better, but I think there's always a possibility with how Michigan turns

05:11the ball over and how Sparty turns the ball over that this game could end up being kind

05:15of topsy turvy.

05:16That doesn't mean good football, but I don't think it's boring football either.

05:18Well, I mean, we'll find out Saturday night.

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