00:00I would also like to thank you, Mr. President, for the first time, for your speech, Mr. Prime Minister,
00:07and also for your question about SOSMA.
00:13I would like to apologize to you, Mr. Speaker, and also to you, Mr. President,
00:17because both of them can only be answered by the Minister of Home Affairs.
00:20I am not responsible for the issue of moving to a prison,
00:26or the existence of a new prison for detention at home,
00:29and I am also not responsible for the issue of SOSMA.
00:32And I think, and I believe, that tomorrow,
00:36you, the Minister of Home Affairs, will answer the question,
00:38and I hope you can ask him the same question.
00:41Mr. President, wait a minute.
00:43You just said that you are the minister who will be responsible to the AGC,
00:49Attorney General Chambers.
00:51The Attorney General is one of the experts in the Immigration Agency.
00:56Could it be that you did not get the information from the AG about the issue of addendum?
01:02I am a bit confused.
01:05You used to be the Minister of Law.
01:08Did you say that the Attorney General reported to you?
01:12Is that what you are making assumption?
01:14We can get the information from the Attorney General.
01:16I am sorry, Mr. Speaker.
01:17In this case, I am the minister who is responsible for the law.
01:20I am not involved in the case of the Attorney General.
01:24I am not involved in the case of the State Attorney General.
01:27And I am also not involved in the case of the Agency.
01:30Because the minister who is responsible,
01:31the secretary to the case of the Attorney General,
01:33is the Minister of Regional Affairs.
01:36You, as a former Minister of Law in the government,
01:39you are definitely more reasonable than me.
01:41You do not need to refuse.
01:42No.
01:43We, the Attorney General and also Siti,
01:46are under the Ministry of Law.
01:49That means, with your permission,
01:51you are admitting that you did give direction to the Attorney General
01:54when you were the minister.
01:55Is that true?
01:55You are making an accusation.
01:56I am not.
01:58How can you make an accusation?
01:59You are making an accusation.
02:00You are making an accusation.
02:01You are making an accusation.
02:02You are making an accusation.
02:03Who else?
02:04Who is making an accusation?
02:05You are making an accusation.
02:06You are making an accusation.
02:07You are making an accusation.
02:08You are making an accusation.
02:09You are making an accusation.
02:10You are making an accusation.
02:11You are making an accusation.
02:12You are making an accusation.
02:13You are making an accusation.
02:14You are making an accusation.
02:15You are making an accusation.
02:16You are making an accusation.
02:17You are making an accusation.
02:18Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask Mr. Besut to retract his statement.
02:21What did Mr. Besut say?
02:22Macai.
02:23I said Macai.
02:24He used to say Macai to us.
02:27When? Never?
02:28Never.
02:29He said Anak Buah.
02:30That is what he meant.
02:31So, I used Macai, Anak Buah.
02:33I would like to ask Mr. Besut to retract his statement.
02:34What is Macai?
02:35You said it.
02:36What is Macai?
02:37I don't know what Macai is.
02:38Why did you use it?
02:39If you don't know, why did you use it?
02:41I used the word Macai,
02:43which means
02:45Mr. Besut, retract your statement.
02:47Mr. Besut, don't you know what it means?
02:49What is a judge's standard?
02:51Mr. Besut, let me finish.
02:53Mr. Besut, let me repeat.
02:55Mr. Besut, when I am talking to you, you listen to me.
02:59When I am talking to you, you listen to me.
03:02Do you understand what is the meaning of Macai?
03:05I understand.
03:06What is Macai?
03:07A follower.
03:08A follower.
03:09A follower.
03:10Yes.
03:11Okay, that is what you understand.
03:12Yes, I understand.
03:14I am asking you one simple question.
03:17I need one simple answer.
03:19Do you understand what is it all about?
03:21I understand.
03:22Macai.
03:23But it was once said by Jelutu,
03:26that Macai...
03:27Mr. Besut, do you understand what Macai is?
03:31Macai is a follower.
03:32A follower.
03:33A follower.
03:34Sit down.
03:35Sit down.
03:36Mr. Besut, sit down.
03:37Sit down.
03:38I understand.
03:39Sit down.
03:40Sit down.
03:41Sit down.
03:43Minister, continue.
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