Constitutional Amendments Main PTI Ko Kiya Kamyabi Mili? Barrister Ali Zafar Reveals

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Constitutional Amendments Main PTI Ko Kiya Kamyabi Mili? Barrister Ali Zafar Reveals

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00:00Anyway, tell me, there was another big development today. Bushra Bibi was bailed in the Tosha Khana case.

00:06Some people are looking at it from different angles.

00:10There were two demands of the PTI, which were also adjusted through Maulana.

00:14One was that there will be no military courts in this amendment, and they did not come.

00:19The second was that there will be no role of Faiz Issa Sahib.

00:22After this retirement, that also did not happen.

00:26Bushra Bibi's orders have come.

00:28Do you think this is a softening of stance of the establishment towards Mr. Khan and towards the party?

00:36No, I think it was a big victory of the PTI.

00:41In the first draft, all these things were there.

00:45Age was to be increased, Faiz Issa Sahib had to live.

00:51Similarly, there was a provision of military courts.

00:53Similarly, the power of the High Court, Article 199, had to be abolished.

00:58All these things were there.

00:59But we supported Mr. Allama, Mr. Maulana, and the JUI.

01:04And we kept requesting them.

01:08You do not consider this a softening of stance?

01:12No, according to me, it was a political stand that was successful.

01:17At least, the first draft did not happen, and now a different draft has happened.

01:22I am asking because when Faisal Wabda Sahib speaks, he says that his thoughts reflect.

01:33He has a special way of thinking.

01:36He also said today that Bushra Bibi will be released.

01:40Otherwise, he never gives good news for the PTI.

01:44I am asking because, is there any connection or not?

01:49No, there is no connection.

01:51As far as the case of Bushra Bibi is concerned, I think it was a good case on the merits.

01:57If Mr. Wabda predicted this, he might have done it because he knew that a time would come

02:04when the High Court would give this bail.

02:06And we were expecting this.

02:08What can we say about the cases?

02:10In this country, a punishment was imposed on the mourning period.

02:13That case was perhaps a lighter case than this.

02:16Do you expect this to happen?

02:21As I said, I would like to clarify that we do not expect justice from the lower courts.

02:30But you have seen that in every case, when the case goes to the High Court,

02:37the High Court gives us relief because the case does not happen.

02:41Especially when the case is fully debated.

02:45We have seen this in the case of the mourning period, in the case of Tusha Khana 1,

02:50in the case of the cipher, and in the case of the bail.

02:55We are denied from below, we are denied, we are punished.

03:00But on top of that, justice is obtained.

03:03But tell me one thing, you have praised I. I. Afridi a lot and rightly so.

03:08But now that the I. I. Afridi Bench has been formed,

03:12does it make any difference who is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court?

03:15Because all the things will be decided by the senior judges of the Judicial Panel.

03:25So all these political cases will go there.

03:29So does it really make any difference if Munsoor Shah would have been the Chief Justice,

03:33or someone else, or Senior Moose, or Number 3?

03:36Will it really make any difference?

03:39I don't think it would make any difference, because you are right that there are two types of powers.

03:46One is the powers that are left with the Supreme Court,

03:49those are left with a common civil court or a very senior criminal court.

03:56That is, the civil cases and criminal cases will be done.

03:59And all the cases of political cases will go to the I. I. Afridi Bench.

04:10And the presiding officer of the I. I. Afridi Bench will be the judge who will decide.

04:16So what is your party saying about this?

04:19That our Chief Justice was just Munsoor Shah, we don't believe anyone.

04:24If this is such an irrelevant question, then why this aggression on this?

04:30Look, there are two things here.

04:33One is the movement of lawyers.

04:36And the movement of lawyers is different from PTI.

04:41And there it is being said that the principle of seniority should be implemented.

04:49That is, you give authority to the executive or give authority to another committee.

04:54That they decide among the first three judges of their choice.

04:58So I don't think this is a legal issue, it is a demand of lawyers.

05:05Okay, tell me one thing, I want to slip in two quick questions because there is very little time.

05:10One debate is also going on that if the judge's age is still young, he will retire after three years.

05:20Now the government has a period of five years.

05:25This means that every time the Prime Minister of the time will be in government,

05:30he will get a chance to appoint a Chief Justice every time.

05:34And when there will be three senior judges in the top,

05:37then the other three judges know that one of the three can come.

05:43So this period of three years has been set up so that all three judges should behave.

05:48And they shouldn't upset the government too much.

05:50Wouldn't it have been better if it had been five years?

05:53So that the judges would know that this government that is sitting,

05:56it cannot make a decision for us in the future, the next government will do it.

06:00Is this period of three years set up so that all three judges keep thinking about the next three years?

06:08Your suggestion is a big debate.

06:12If it had to be done, it would have been five years.

06:14So that there is no impression that you can appoint another Chief Justice in your tenure.

06:21But on the other hand, it is also a debate that it is not necessary that they do it on their own side.

06:26Sir, down to my last 30 seconds, no one can deny the divisions of the judges.

06:55Mansoor Ali Shah Sahib is going to Umrah tomorrow.

06:58There was a Faiz Ishaq camp, Mansoor Shah Sahib's camp, whether the camp was there or not, but there were divisions.

07:04Will Justice Zia-e-Afridi be able to reunite this fractured Supreme Court in your opinion?

07:11Yes, this is the hope.

07:13And the hope is also because you have seen in their tenure,

07:17or their judgments in many cases,

07:20that they have been making independent judgments and no one has been able to see them.

07:26Sir, will they be able to do it or not? Yes or no, in your opinion?

07:29I think they will be able to do it.

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