00:00Okay, can you please identify the picture on the screen?
00:03Who is that on the screen?
00:06That's Bato de la Rosa.
00:09During that time, what was Senator Bato's assignment?
00:14During that time, the incident you're talking about.
00:17Where was he at that time?
00:18He was the chief PNP.
00:23Yes, you stated in your testimony
00:27that you were told by PNP chief Bato
00:34that you need to do something
00:36in exchange for your chance to live.
00:41Do you confirm this?
00:42Yes.
00:43Can you please tell us?
00:45What did Senator Bato tell you?
00:47He told me to follow the plan.
00:51If you follow the plan, who will you tell
00:56to save your life?
00:59If you don't follow the plan,
01:01you will follow your father
01:04or one of your family members.
01:08Something bad will happen.
01:10You mentioned about plan.
01:12Can you tell us, what is the plan you're talking about?
01:15There are names that were assigned to me.
01:20I will mention them in my testimony
01:25or in my testimony in the Senate.
01:29Can you tell us who are these people
01:33and what do you want to be mentioned by PNP chief Bato?
01:38Peter Lim, a supplier of shabu.
01:46He's not here anymore.
01:53Senator Delima, a protector of shabu sellers
02:01in Bilibid.
02:03She's a protector.
02:06There are others.
02:24In other words, what PNP chief wants
02:27is for you to mention these names
02:30that are associated with illegal drug operation.
02:33Is that right?
02:34Yes.
02:35And did you follow this, Karwin?
02:39I really followed this.
02:41Why did you follow this?
02:43Of course, you know this is wrong.
02:45Right?
02:46Why did you follow the order of non-IPNP chief Bato?
02:51If anyone of us here in the Quadcom
03:02will really follow this
03:05because it's a change of your life.
03:11Especially if you have small children
03:14to say that you will follow your father
03:19if you don't follow our plan.
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