The Russian dissident Vladimir Kara-Murza is “worried” about Donald Trump potentially becoming US President and giving Vladimir Putin a “face-saving exit” from war in Ukraine

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00:00Yes, I am worried and it's not just about the American election. It's also based on the conversation

00:03I've had in Berlin a couple of weeks ago. There is growing fatigue. It is understandable

00:07This war has been going on for more than two and a half years in this active phase

00:11People are tired people want an over

00:14People just want it to end in some people in any way that it can

00:19but I just

00:20hope that people realize that

00:23You know if this is just frozen and and and pushed over

00:27That's not going to be an end

00:30That's just delaying it and making it even worse a couple of years down the line

00:34We know from history what?

00:36appeasement of dictators leads to we know from the history of Western dealings with Vladimir Putin over the last 25 years what appeasement to

00:41dictators leads to I

00:43mentioned the

00:44in response to a previous question of I talked about the responsibility of

00:49large part of Russian society for

00:51Allowing the Putin regime to get where it did because there was really not much resistance in the early years of Putin regime in Russia

00:57It's also important to speak about the collective responsibility of Western leaders

01:01Who enabled Putin and appeased Putin and continued to conduct business as usual with Putin?

01:06Looking to his eyes and seeing his soul declaring resets with him buying gas from him inviting him for international summits and so on and so

01:12forth they bear a lot of responsibility for allowing the Putin regime to grow into the monster it is today and

01:18I just want to reiterate that I

01:20Understand the fatigue I understand the the worries and yes, I am concerned with what you're asking about that

01:27Not just in America, but in many European countries, too. There will be

01:31Urges and and there will be pressure to end this somehow

01:36But if this war is ended on Putin's terms all that means that in a year or two from now

01:40There will be another one and I hope people remember that and again

01:43I just repeat this as many times as I need to Vladimir Putin must not be allowed to win the war in Ukraine

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