Murtaza Wahab Strongly Responds Kamran Murtaza's statement

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#kamranmurtaza #murtazawahab #bilawalbhutto #pmlngovt #juif #fazalurrehman #bilawalbhutto #supremecourt #qazifaezisa #constitutionalamendment   Murtaza Wahab Strongly Responds Kamran Murtaza's statement

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00:00We have repeated this position again and again at 10.20 pm.

00:08In these words, Mr. Bilawar is not saying the right thing.

00:11Mr. Bilawar was in favor of article 8 and we stopped it.

00:19Mr. Bilawar did not say the position.

00:21And this is not a man from Tehreek-e-Insaf or a journalist.

00:24Mr. Kamran Murtaza himself is saying this.

00:26What is this?

00:28Waseem, the statement will continue.

00:31Has the atmosphere become bad because of this statement?

00:33No.

00:34Look, when the leadership is directly in touch and the leadership is clear,

00:38moving forward with clarity,

00:40that yes, there is a need to make reforms,

00:43and there is a need to build consensus,

00:45there is a need to respect each other's opinion,

00:48and on which you all agree,

00:50that document needs to be taken forward,

00:52then I think the atmosphere is not bad.

00:54So, exactly what happened?

00:55When Mr. Bilawar came, I asked him,

00:58what is article 8?

01:00He said, yes, there is, but what can we do?

01:02It is a compulsion.

01:03Look, even yesterday I…

01:04You had gone with him at 2.30 pm.

01:06Look, I had three meetings with Mr. Bilawar.

01:09Right.

01:10We met weekly, at night, at Mr. Bilawar's house.

01:13There was no secret meeting.

01:15It is an open secret that Mr. Bilawar came to Mr. Bilawar's house and…

01:19Weekly means when there was a meeting in the morning.

01:21It was a weekly meeting on Sunday night.

01:23Right.

01:24Mr. Bilawar came on the night of the week,

01:26and Mr. Bilawar met Maulana Sahib,

01:29and Maulana Sahib was with him,

01:31and there were other members of his Shura,

01:33and we were also present with Mr. Bilawar.

01:35Right.

01:36On the day of Sunday,

01:37Maulana Sahib met Mr. Bilawar at night,

01:41when Maulana Sahib himself came to the committee meeting.

01:44Right.

01:45And in the day,

01:46he also met Kamran Murtaza Sahib,

01:48and Shahida Bibi,

01:49who is a member of his parliamentary committee,

01:51he also met her in the Parliament House,

01:53and the reading was done clause by clause.

01:57And the third meeting,

01:58or the fourth meeting,

01:59was with Maulana Sahib on the day of Peer,

02:01in the evening.

02:02Right.

02:03When he again came to his house,

02:04and he spoke to him about

02:06how we need to move forward in this matter.

02:09And he is saying about the first meeting,

02:11that when the first meeting took place,

02:12then I told Kamran Sahib,

02:14Mr. Bilawar,

02:15that what is this,

02:16this article,

02:17this is not true,

02:18he is saying.

02:19Kamran Sahib raised many objections.

02:21It is his right.

02:22But most of all,

02:23this one.

02:24Yes, yes.

02:25But I will say this with respect,

02:26and with responsibility,

02:27that Mr. Bilawar did not say anything like this.

02:30Even today,

02:31I am saying,

02:32come to the merits.

02:33Leave these things.

02:34Kamran Sahib says,

02:35that Article 8 is bad,

02:36which was the suggestion of the government.

02:37Mr. Bilawar himself has also said,

02:38I also say,

02:39keep Article 8 aside.

02:40Tell me what else is bad.

02:41Where is Article 8 bad?

02:42See, Article 8.

02:43No, no,

02:44Article 8 has not been amended,

02:45the government which brought it,

02:46in their wish list.

02:47See,

02:48the context of the amendment,

02:49needs to be understood.

02:51In that,

02:52Mr. Kamran can have one perspective,

02:54the government can have another perspective,

02:56and Mr. Bilawar,

02:57can play the role of a bridge,

02:59how to bridge things,

03:00and move forward.

03:01But tell me,

03:02what is the issue?

03:03Yes, I will analyze.

03:04One minute.

03:05So that we can talk about the merits.

03:06We are not talking about the merits.

03:08We have started talking,

03:09about other things.

03:10I will ask a very small,

03:11simple question.

03:12That,

03:13the Lawyer's Movement,

03:14started in 2007.

03:15Right.

03:16It was said,

03:17there will be a state,

03:18which will love every citizen,

03:19like a mother.

03:20Everyone said,

03:21that the system of justice,

03:22has become clear.

03:23It is absolutely clear.

03:24Now,

03:25justice is cheap,

03:26and justice,

03:27will get standard justice.

03:28Tell me,

03:29is justice getting?

03:30Is there a need,

03:31to amend the system?

03:32So,

03:33what are you establishing with this?

03:34I am establishing,

03:35that there is corruption in the system.

03:36And,

03:37the fundamental work of the parliament,

03:38is under this paper,

03:39under this book,

03:40that it is our work,

03:41the work of the parliament,

03:42to amend it.

03:43So,

03:44try to amend it.

03:45So,

03:46not to make it worse.

03:47Absolutely.

03:48So,

03:49let's talk about Article 8.

03:50In which,

03:51it is,

03:52that sir,

03:53I mean,

03:54obviously,

03:55we are talking about reported things.

03:56Yes.

03:57Either you say it or not.

03:58Yes.

03:59It is not like that.

04:00Yes.

04:01By the way,

04:02Kamran sir,

04:03has also said on record,

04:04that brother,

04:05that document,

04:06in that,

04:07there was a statement about Article 8.

04:08That document,

04:09is still with me,

04:10even today.

04:11On which,

04:12I have made everyone,

04:13again,

04:14I am repeating it again,

04:15that sir,

04:16what is this?

04:17And,

04:18were you also against it?

04:19Or,

04:20because Maulana was against it,

04:21that's why you got it removed?

04:22No,

04:23I am telling you,

04:24that Bilawal sir,

04:25kept engaging periodically.

04:26We,

04:27from the aspect of military court,

04:28think,

04:29that,

04:30A,

04:31you have to,

04:32let's say,

04:33amend the judicial system.

04:34And,

04:35at the same time,

04:36as you remember,

04:37in the 21st century,

04:38when the APS incident happened,

04:39the military courts came,

04:40building a consensus.

04:41So,

04:42even in that,

04:43the Supreme Court said,

04:44that there should be a judicial review.

04:45We,

04:46somewhere,

04:47should not allow,

04:48any power,

04:49to be given,

04:50to any individual,

04:51to any institution.

04:52What was the wish list?

04:53What did the government want,

04:54in relation to Article 8?

04:55What did they want?

04:56They had a proposal,

04:57that the military court should be made.

04:58That the military court should be made,

04:59so that the civilians can be trialled.

05:00Yes.

05:01So,

05:02on that,

05:03Bilawal sir,

05:04engaged with them.

05:05He said,

05:06no,

05:07that the absolute right,

05:08should not be,

05:09that you,

05:10send a person to a military court,

05:11that there should be a judicial review.

05:12On what basis?

05:13That on the 21st amendment,

05:14the decision of the Supreme Court,

05:15it is written in that,

05:16that yes,

05:17it is right,

05:18that the amendment,

05:19was upheld.

05:20But,

05:21he said,

05:22that the High Courts,

05:23will have the right,

05:24to review it.

05:25We are moving forward,

05:26with the same principles,

05:27that are in place.

05:28But look,

05:29we were talking about merit,

05:30but you,

05:31I mean,

05:32this thing,

05:33cannot be ignored.

05:34Because,

05:35what has happened,

05:36Pakistan People's Party,

05:37obviously,

05:38talks a lot,

05:39about democracy,

05:40and democratic credentials,

05:41and sacrifices.

05:42If,

05:43a comrade,

05:44comes and says,

05:45that,

05:46I don't agree with this,

05:47but we have to do it.

05:48You are repeating,

05:49the same thing,

05:50again and again.

05:51Yes,

05:52that is why,

05:53you are ignoring it.

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