Kiya PTI Par Pabandi lagane say mutaliq batein Zair Ghor Hain? c Afzal's Analysis

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00:00 You are the coordinator of the PMOI.

00:03 Is this a matter of personal interest?

00:06 Should the PMOI be considered as a banner in the context of the recent statements?

00:14 Our guest was talking about this in the last segment.

00:16 In the name of God, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.

00:19 This is a very sad tweet from the official handle.

00:25 If you look at the history of this Jamaat, the bill was torn down,

00:30 the movement of disobedience started,

00:35 the PTV was attacked, the assembly was attacked,

00:38 the visit of the Chinese President was delayed.

00:42 The way this project was launched,

00:45 and when it came to power,

00:47 they rejected the democratic norm of engaging the opposition,

00:51 they rejected it, they didn't engage their coalition partners.

00:55 When their government was removed from power,

00:59 they sowed the seeds of hatred,

01:01 they politicized polarization,

01:04 they challenged the government that if they arrest them, they will bomb them.

01:09 If they challenge me, I will raise slogans of Mir Jafar and Mir Sadiq.

01:14 If my red line crosses, there will be incidents of 9th May.

01:18 They wrote a letter to the IMF, saying that they won't give loans,

01:22 they won't protest,

01:23 they attacked the GSP Plus, their social media.

01:31 You must remember, in Madina,

01:34 they had a destructive, agitationist politics,

01:37 that when they were being called thieves in Madina,

01:40 they shouldn't be condemned,

01:41 but they should be told that they will get what they deserve.

01:45 Overall, I think, this is a negative politics.

01:48 You just started with a tweet,

01:51 in the last segment, the senator was saying that this is under discussion,

01:55 do you also think that this should be done or not?

01:58 When the incidents of 9th May happened,

02:03 there was a discussion that if this Jamaat instigates

02:07 that you are an attacker of national institutes,

02:11 and they have such planning,

02:13 then it can be seen, but I don't have any knowledge

02:17 that the government is pursuing this or going in this direction.

02:22 -Anyway, I have... -Okay.

02:25 That's all a part of the record.

02:27 Mr. Zain Qureshi, you were expecting this,

02:31 Mr. Shahamud Qureshi had one case left,

02:33 and before his decision,

02:35 there were 8 cases of 9th May.

02:40 Are you surprised or were you expecting this?

02:46 In the name of God, the most merciful, the most merciful.

02:47 Thank you for inviting me to your program.

02:49 Before answering your question,

02:50 I will answer your last question,

02:51 -you didn't ask me, but I will give you my point of view. -Please.

02:55 Sir, banning political parties is not a solution.

03:00 And I said from the first day that

03:01 the government's call and action is always different.

03:05 They are talking about mutual understanding,

03:07 they are talking about reconciliation,

03:08 but now they are saying that

03:10 the person who did this can be thought about.

03:13 Sir, I don't believe in the politics of 'tat for tat',

03:16 and Mr. Rana is my brother, he is very respectable for me,

03:18 but when they talk about the history of the Jamaats,

03:21 then they should remember the attack on the Supreme Court,

03:25 they should remember the speech of Mr. Nawaz Sharif in Gujranwala,

03:28 they should remember Don Leaks,

03:30 who used to talk about the establishment

03:32 and the senior leadership of the army,

03:34 and the Muslim League, they should remember that too.

03:37 So, I mean,

03:39 -they say that the glass house is the house of stone. -And banning a party,

03:42 a political party is not a good idea,

03:43 so the bag that was banned during your time, wasn't that right?

03:48 Sir, I don't agree with that.

03:51 In my opinion, if we really call ourselves democratic forces,

03:54 if we really call ourselves people who believe in democracy,

03:57 people who sell democracy,

03:59 then any political Jamaat,

04:01 and if you ban the biggest Jamaat in the country,

04:03 the one who got the most votes in the country,

04:05 then I think it would be complete stupidity.

04:07 Okay, but let me ask a small question about this.

04:09 Before your question, let me ask a small question about this.

04:11 Don't you think that,

04:12 this is your point, but,

04:14 understanding the sensitivity, understanding the environment,

04:18 the PTI also needs to take a careful step,

04:21 and this tweet, the way it happened,

04:24 these things are a little overdue sometimes.

04:27 Don't you think so?

04:28 Absolutely, Mr. Balaji, I agree with you

04:33 that every stakeholder has to play a role in improving the environment,

04:37 and everyone, we say, has to create an enabling environment.

04:41 That enabling environment can only be created through discussion and debate.

04:44 That enabling environment cannot be created by banning a Jamaat.

04:49 Now, I will come to the answer to the original question you asked me.

04:53 There are only two things in Mr. Shah's case.

04:56 First, we celebrated Yom-e-Takbir today,

05:00 which is a very good thing, we should celebrate it.

05:02 It is a matter of pride for Pakistan

05:04 that we have an atomic power,

05:06 and anyone can claim their credit, but a lot of people have their credit in it.

05:11 Dr. Abdul Qadir Khan has his credit,

05:13 Mr. Mufti Fakhar Ali Bhutto has his credit,

05:14 and all the governments that have come since then have their credit.

05:18 But, what happened in the last 25 years,

05:20 what happened this year is a very surprising thing.

05:22 This year, after office hours,

05:25 in the evening, they held a circular,

05:28 in which they declared a national holiday.

05:30 And the fun part is that the same circular also said that the courts will be closed.

05:35 So, why? Because two big decisions were to be made today.

05:37 The decision of the Cipher case was to be made,

05:39 and the decision of the tribunals was to be made in the Lahore High Court.

05:42 And both the decisions, it is clearly visible,

05:45 were against their intentions and intentions.

05:48 That is why...

05:49 No, so...

05:51 His voice got cut off, okay.

05:54 So, he is saying that this has happened because of this.

05:58 Tell me, if we take a holiday today, Mr. Badami,

06:02 won't the decisions come tomorrow?

06:04 There is no logical sense to this.

06:07 If they were not to come today, they would come tomorrow.

06:10 And you are the coordinator of the Prime Minister,

06:12 so you know that if this was not the reason,

06:16 what was the reason?

06:17 Because you will say that it was the reason of the Day of Judgement.

06:19 So, in the last 25 years, when there was the rule of Mooli,

06:21 this did not happen.

06:22 It came in the office hours, after office hours.

06:26 The merchants kept it open, that we will not come so soon.

06:29 So, it was unprecedented.

06:30 So, what was the reason for this?

06:32 Look, this is an important day for the security of Pakistan.

06:37 And because of these reasons, this holiday was declared.

06:41 Anyway, my personal opinion is that we should reduce the number of holidays.

06:45 But the government declared it and on this basis,

06:49 which I have just told you.

06:50 So, it took the government a good 25 years to realize that it is a historic day.

06:55 Although, you are saying that there should not be a holiday even now.

06:58 So, what is this?

06:59 I think that we should reduce the number of holidays and focus more on work.

07:03 But this was the point of view of the government that

07:07 we should celebrate this day for the security of Pakistan.

07:12 So, today, the holiday was given.

07:14 It is possible that next year, they will say that

07:16 we should reduce the number of holidays.

07:17 Next year, they will undo this holiday.

07:19 I think that the number of holidays should be reduced.

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