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Who has the most pressure in the AFC East the Fins, Jets or Bills?
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1 year ago
Tobin continues to defend himself and his views on Week 2 being a statement game for the Miami Dolphins. Who has the most pressure in the AFC East the Fins, Jets or Bills?
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the chats on fire. A lot of people agree with me. You know, it's one of those. Yeah. A lot
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of people agree with me. No, they don't. No. I mean, I saw plenty of people, even Schmethen
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agree with me. And if Schmethen's agreeing with me, then you, uh, then, then, you know,
00:17
you nailed it. That's just how it is. It's okay though. Look, we don't have to keep quibbling
00:23
over this. We don't have to keep quibbling over this. I'll only use last year as you
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know, the, the proving point for this, because last year, what happened to the Miami dolphins?
00:32
All right. Last season started off three and Oh, put a 70 burger on Denver. And what happened
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week four? It was terrible. Leroy. Then what happened week four? I don't know what happened.
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They went to Buffalo and they got shellacked. Okay. And that was the statement game. And
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then what happened? True. Turned out the statement game proved to be true. So that's
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why I'm saying, if you could say there's no statement games early in the season, but there
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are.
01:05
All right. I think that's true. Why? I mean, what's the point of paying 17 games? That's
01:12
what I'm exactly. Exactly. If not all games are created equal because I, and, and somebody
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pointed this out in the, I don't want to just take them, take it, you take it away
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from them. Okay. That some would say the jets and the bills have more of a statement than
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the dolphins season season season. They think they have more of a statement season than
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the dolphins do. Yeah, we do. The jets have a statement season. Why? Because Aaron Rogers
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is old. No, because Aaron, because everybody here, here's why, because everybody said what
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they were going to be last year with Aaron Rogers. Well, Aaron Rogers is playing now.
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So you better be that. Okay. And jobs are on the line. Buffalo jobs are on the line.
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Miami. Everybody's good. That's what you think. I don't know. I think he was not getting fired.
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If I did you not, I'm sorry, but did you not just hear the owner was on the preseason broadcast
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and saying they're super bowl contenders. That dude wrote some big ass checks this off
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season. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Being a super bowl contender. What do you think
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that means? That means that's basically, he's saying we can compete. I feel we can compete
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with any team and we'll be in the hunt at the end of the year. That's not saying we're
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going to win the damn super. Why are you taking it as that season? He's looks at them as contenders.
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These other teams that I'm mentioning, well, the jets, I mean, solid has been there for,
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um, this is going to be your number four. So, you know, four years in a five-year deal.
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If you haven't done anything, you're going to get let go. Sean McDermott's been there
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for like ever in Buffalo. And they've gotten him every weapon he could think of. And still,
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and the farthest I've ever gone to was the AFC championship game. They've been favorites
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for the super bowl two years and they haven't gotten there.
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So he's getting close though. Blind, like the dolphins. If Mike McDaniel doesn't get
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the dolphins, their first playoff win. Yeah. You don't think Steven Ross is going to be
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like, okay, can this dude do it? Can the weirdo, can the weirdo do it? Here's the problem.
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Here's the problem. Here's the problem. Here's why you can't get rid of Mike McDaniel because
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he and tour or tide that if you bring somebody else in with the guaranteed money, you got
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to get to it and it doesn't work. You have set your, your team back. That's why if the
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dolphins flop this season, dude, I don't think Steven Ross is going to be thinking
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about that.
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All right. Like I don't, but, but saying here saying you a contender because I can name
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10 teams that think that we already did this. I'm not, I'm not forget that. But vendor is
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like what? That's not saying anything. I'm not asking that. I'm saying you don't think
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Steven Ross think you guys could say whatever you want. Narrative wise jets bills you think
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have more pressure. The guy was in the booth. We haven't heard from him very much and he
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put it on the line saying what he expects with the team healthy. If his team, if his
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team goes out, that's not saying what he, and if he gets bounced, if he doesn't make
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the playoffs or if his team gets bounced, how do you think he's going to react to that?
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I think he's going to be pissed off. Okay. So like what do you understand? No, the argument
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is him saying we feel that we're super bowl contenders.
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You're saying he put some kind of, uh, pressure on like, you need to do X, X, or this. He
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just said he thinks his team's really good. That's it. He didn't give him any expectations.
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I expect to be here or expect to do that. Now. I'm not saying he doesn't think that,
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but that's not what he said. You don't speak rich guy. Okay. I love the way you can take
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here. I take words. I take exactly what he said. And I take that. You take it and mean
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what you want it to me. I know what it means. What does it mean? No, no. Tell me what it
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means. What do the Dolphins need to do? According to what Ross said, at least win a playoff
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game, at least to keep your jobs. And so that's what contender means to you. That's what that
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means when he says that. Yes. Okay. Because if his expectations are super bowl and they
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don't make the playoffs and his expectations were super bowl. Now that's going to lose.
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No one's going to lose their job over that. Now I have a question. And here's why I like
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to let things play out safe day, 14, three, 15, two, and have the number one seed and
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win a playoff game.
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And then losing the division around, you're going to feel just as upset if they were the
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number one seed, they're going to buy. They're going to buy. Okay. And we'll say they lose
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the division around. He's right. I don't think, I don't think he's going to be too pleased
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about that. No. So, so, but my point is, is that you, before you have these lofty expect
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expectations first, you got to see where you are. Okay. You don't know where this team
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is right now, which is why we choose a statement game. Like that's, that's see, you're kind
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of see you like you and I, we're seeing eye to eye here. If they win the first, wait,
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if they won the first two games, what does that mean? As, as, as far as why not a statement
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game?
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Eh, it's Jacksonville. Nobody takes them seriously. Come on, dude. But I will say it's a, to a
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statement game because it's him versus Trevor Lawrence. Oh my goodness, dude, you just for
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him though, you, you pull more angles than athletes. You know how athletes try to pull
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up angles to motivate themselves. Like, like, like Jordan does you pull up more angles than
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them. And then you just be like, you disagree. You're the obtuse of angles, bro. You're the
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excuse me. Yeah. I am. I listen. I am a lot of things. Obtuse is not one of them. Trust
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me. You're already up to smack. It's just, you say it's not a statement game, but it's
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a statement game for two. Yeah. And the most important player on the football team is the
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quarterback. Yeah. But not for everybody.
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So can I ask you a question while we sit in here and doing all of these things, why are
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we acting like there's not a lot of guys returning from injury? You know, does that
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play a role in this? Uh, like with Bradley Chubb, Bradley Chubb, with Jalen Phillips
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with tour. I mean, we're not with tour with Tyreek, with, um, dude, Tyron Armstead with
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Jalen Waddle. I'm just saying you're making Toronto is not returning from injury. He's
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old. He's not returning from injury. You're, you're making assumptions that these guys
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going to pick up where they left off. I'm not making assumptions, but you're tacking,
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you're, you're running up the score on obstacles that they don't have. Like, if you want to
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put the past, why not Toronto says healthy. He's just not practicing or barely practicing.
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He's not hurt. I'll give you that. All right. Jalen Waddle says he's fine. He said it yesterday.
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He says, I'm good. They were extra cautious because it's the preseason. Okay. Might be
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Daniel says if Tyreek Hill, if it was a regular season, of course he'd play, he could play
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that. I agree. Yeah. Not having your pass rushers. That's something, but Jalen Phillips
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beat science. He's going to be there. So you think he's going to play week one? I don't
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know. You're wrong, but I think you should start a week too, just because of the four
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day turnaround personally. No, if anything, he'll start game three and that's a stretch
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because they have that long period of time. I don't think it's a stretch. I think he's
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back, dude. I don't know. Like, listen, I can't emphasize this. I'm not even doing a
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bit by the way. Like I'm serious. I can't, I can't emphasize this enough. There's a big
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difference in running drills and practicing than going in and playing in a game. You ask
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your body to take it to another level. Okay. And if you are injured, your body may not
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respond. So a lot of times with these injuries, they err on the side of caution. The other
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thing with Jalen Phillips is, is guess what? It's almost time to pay him. You better make
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damn sure he's healthy. Otherwise you got to make a decision on an injured player. Yeah.
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That's more reason why I picked up his option that they have, like they have a cushion year
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on it. So like, you know, it's not like he's going to walk next year. Nobody usually plays
09:32
in that cup that year. Christian Wilkinson, Christian Wilkinson. And where is he? He's
09:38
in Las Vegas, but he played on the year. Like you're going to act like he's going to walk
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next year and he's not. Oh, okay. All right. This is just all, this is reality. This is
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not, no, I'm just giving you the facts of his contract. That's all. No, I understand
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that. But nobody plays, they pick up the option because they have to at a certain period of
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time before the fourth year. I would argue coming to a guy coming off an Achilles tear,
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like picking up the option was kind of like a solid on him. Is it not? No, to pay a guy
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$20 million. You don't know how he's coming back from an injury. No, because it puts you
10:05
in a bind. Like if you got only got to pay him like what? 15 million. And then he ends up
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playing well, which you expect if he comes back and then that becomes 20 plus million
10:17
because you didn't pick up that option.
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