00:00Greetings friends, this is Steve Dupuy for the Bible News Prophecy Program with Dr. Bob
00:09Thiel.
00:10Dr. Thiel, would you give us some info on the two leading candidates for U.S. President?
00:15Well, roughly about one-third of the United States voters are happy that Donald Trump
00:22has secured the Republican Party nomination to become President of the United States.
00:26As it turns out, about roughly one-third of the United States voters are happy that
00:30Kamala Harris has apparently cinched the Democratic Party nomination to become President of the
00:36United States.
00:37Well then, does that mean that both candidates have a two-thirds disapproval rating?
00:42Well, actually some polls do suggest that, but now let's look at their constitutional
00:48qualifications.
00:50Both were born natural citizens in the United States.
00:54Both have been residents of the United States for at least 14 years, and both are over 35
00:58years of age, so according to the U.S. Constitution, both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris meet the
01:04requirements to become President of the United States, and whichever one wins a sufficient
01:10number of electoral votes will have met the constitutional qualification, presuming it
01:15was one of them.
01:16Now, as it turns out, supporters of Donald Trump point to his record as being a successful
01:22businessman, as well as his record as President of the United States, to demonstrate that
01:26they think he's the best qualified person for that job.
01:30Yet, Donald Trump wasn't always successful, and actually he filed for bankruptcy multiple
01:36times when he couldn't pay back his creditors.
01:39Well, the Bible must have something to say about that, especially since he could have
01:44repaid the debt.
01:45Yeah, in Psalm 37, verse 21, it says, the wicked borrows and does not repay, but the
01:50righteous shows mercy and gives.
01:52And I heard Donald Trump basically say, well, there's rules and laws, but I know how to
01:56use them.
01:57Furthermore, Donald Trump has admitted adultery, and he said he never repented before God,
02:03and he proves the various behaviors that the Bible condemns.
02:07He despises many, and he promotes a type of nationalistic covetousness.
02:12Now, what about Kamala Harris?
02:15Well, on the news, I heard supporters of Kamala Harris point to her political career as a
02:22California Attorney General, then she was a U.S. Senator, then she's Vice President
02:26of the United States.
02:27Therefore, they feel because of that, she's the most qualified person to be President
02:32of the United States.
02:33However, you know, in California, 50% of people who take the state bar exam become lawyers.
02:42They pass it on your first attempt.
02:45Kamala Harris didn't do that, but anyway, she did finally pass, and she began her career
02:50as a Deputy District Attorney in Alameda County, which is in Northern California.
02:55But then she connected with a very powerful, married California politician by the name
03:00of Willie Brown.
03:02In 1994, she began dating him while he was a big shot, and he was also married.
03:10He was 30 years older than her, and Brown, according to the news, appointed Harris to
03:17the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and Medical Assistance Commission, positions
03:22together that paid her an extra $80,000 a year on top of what she was already making
03:28as a prosecutor.
03:31And she was known as his 29-year-old mistress.
03:37So it seems like her adulterous affair with a legally married and influential man assisted
03:45her career advancement.
03:46I don't know if you heard what Roseanne Barr, the comedian, said about her, but she said
03:51Kamala Harris slept her way to the bottom.
03:53Later, when she was Attorney General, Kamala Harris made ways for her refusal to defend
03:59Proposition 8, which was a law in the state of California that says marriage is between
04:04a man and a woman.
04:05She didn't want to do that.
04:06Of course, that's how Jesus defined marriage.
04:10And as vice president, the role that the major media seems to think she was best at, by the
04:18way, was promoting abortion.
04:22Well, in the interest of political fairness and equal time, what can the Bible tell us
04:28about Mrs. Harris's actions?
04:31Well, the prophet Isaiah, Isaiah 59, starting verse 7, read this from the New King James,
04:39warned the following, their feet run to evil and they make haste to shed innocent blood.
04:47Their thoughts are of iniquity, wasting and destruction are in their past.
04:52The way of peace they have not known.
04:53There's no justice in their ways.
04:56They've made themselves crooked paths.
04:58Whoever should go that way will not know peace.
05:01Well, abortion is the shedding of innocent blood.
05:05And Kamala Harris has made haste to travel across the whole United States in order to
05:09promote it.
05:11She also tends to advocate a type of class envy covetousness when she discusses raising
05:17taxes to give benefits to various ones.
05:21Anyway, I consider that both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris are evil.
05:27In what way are they both evil?
05:29Well, without going all specifics, let's talk about some ways they're similar.
05:33Number one, they don't live like members of their faiths are supposed to live.
05:38Donald Trump is a Presbyterian and Kamala Harris is some type of Baptist.
05:44Number two, they both support LGBTQ matters.
05:48Three, neither one have called for national repentance.
05:51Four, neither seek first the kingdom of God.
05:55Five, one's an adulterer, the other's an adulteress.
05:57Six, they've both been involved in administrations that greatly have increased US debt.
06:03Seven, they've been involved in administrations that have set the Europeans.
06:08Eight, they've been accused of hypocrisy.
06:11Nine, they've both made a lot of public lies.
06:14Ten, they have real solutions for what the United States needs.
06:18Now, I'm not trying to say there are any differences, and I know they have differing economic and
06:23climate policies, as well as various differences on abortion and racial matters.
06:28Well, on your LGBTQ issue above, what is evil about merely supporting a certain viewpoint?
06:36Well, if you don't believe the Bible, probably not a whole lot, but the Bible actually is
06:43pretty strict about this.
06:44Let me read the book of Romans, Romans chapter one, starting in verse 26, where even their
06:51women exchanged a natural use for what's against nature, likewise also the men leading
06:55the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men committing but shameful
07:01and receiving themselves the penalty of the error which was due.
07:06Because they did not want to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them up to a debased
07:10mind to do those things which are not fitting, being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual
07:15immorality, covetousness, maliciousness, deceit, evil mindedness, et cetera, et cetera.
07:22Verse 32, who knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things
07:27are deserving of death, and not only do the same, but those who approve of those who practice
07:34them.
07:35So in other words, the Bible says, even if you're not doing those things, if you approve
07:38of it, this is bad.
07:40So yes, the US election is a choice between evil ones.
07:44Don't place your hope in any human political leader.
07:48So now that the Bible has shown us some of the errors or sins of a leader of a nation,
07:54what are some of the characteristics we should look for?
07:57Well, if we go to the Bible, book of Exodus, chapter 18, I want to read something that
08:03God had Moses write, starting in verse 19, listen to my voice, I will give you counsel
08:10and God will be with you.
08:11You will stand before God for the people so that you will bring difficulties to God
08:15and you will teach them the statutes and the laws and show them the way in which they must
08:19walk and the work they must do.
08:22Verse 21, moreover, you shall select from all the people able men, such as fear God,
08:30men of truth, hating covetousness, and place them over to be rulers of thousands of hundreds,
08:36rulers of fifties and rulers of ten.
08:39Now neither Kamala Harris nor Donald Trump could be called men of truth, nor do they
08:45truly endorse God's laws and statutes, nor do they hate covetousness.
08:51Now I want to go to the book of 2 Samuel, 2 Samuel, chapter 23, starting in verse 2.
08:59The spirit of the Lord spoke by me and his word was on my tongue.
09:04The God of Israel, the Rock of Israel spoke to me, saying, he who rules over men must
09:11be judged, just, ruling in the fear of God.
09:16Neither Kamala Harris nor Donald Trump are just, nor do they intend to rule in the true
09:22fear of God.
09:24Hence they're not people that Christians should endorse.
09:31Voting for Kamala Harris, voting for Donald Trump, it simply is not going to save the
09:37United States of America.
09:38Well, a lot of people look to the president to save us.
09:43What does the Bible teach?
09:44Well, if I go back to the Old Testament again, this time to Psalm 146, I'm going to read
09:52what the psalmist wrote with verse 3.
09:56Do not put your trust in princes, nor in the son of man in whom there is no help.
10:03Now by princes, we're talking about basically political leaders, government leaders.
10:10So we're not supposed to put our trust in those because there's no hope.
10:15Now I want to go to Isaiah, Isaiah chapter 5, and I want to read verse 20.
10:21The Bible says, woe to those who call evil good and good evil.
10:27I've heard both Kamala Harris and Donald Trump explain why they are good for the sexual immorality
10:35crowd.
10:36And again, both of them as their examples as adulterers, adulteresses in this case,
10:42but they say evil is good.
10:47And as far as voting goes, let me just comment that Exodus chapter 23, verse 2 has something
10:56that a lot of people do not seem to understand who claim to believe the Bible.
11:01It says, you shall not follow a crowd to do evil.
11:10And so one part of the crowd's going to vote for presuming these people stay and don't
11:15die and all this kind of stuff.
11:17Okay.
11:18Some big part of the crowd's planning on voting for Donald Trump.
11:21Another big crowd is planning on voting for Kamala Harris.
11:25And there'll be a little crowd that will probably vote for various other ones.
11:29But you know, they're both evil.
11:33And the lesser of two evils is what a lot of times people say they vote for.
11:38But by that definition, it's still evil.
11:42Now, as far as moral leadership for the country, if you listen to some of what they say compared
11:51against the Bible, say this is covetousness, class envy, hate, various other things, different
11:58ones.
11:59Isaiah had another prophecy I'd like to read, Isaiah 9, this time verse 16.
12:09For the leaders of this people cause them to err and those who are led by them are destroyed.
12:17That applies to both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.
12:22But in our age now, we've got leaders who think it's okay to have teenagers get their
12:29parts cut off and put on various hormones because they think that this is good.
12:36We've done some other things about this.
12:39One of the things they've told parents is if you don't let your child do this, your
12:42child will commit suicide or something along that line.
12:45Well, actually they did some studies on that and found out, no, that's not true.
12:49And they've also done other studies.
12:51Sometimes the results of these studies, by the way, have been suppressed by our leaders,
12:56so-called, other leaders, but leaders the wrong way, who don't want the truth to come
13:01out that people who go through these surgeries and stuff, they're not happy or it doesn't
13:05work for them, but they want to act like this is a great thing.
13:09Now, as far as what are we supposed to do?
13:14We're supposed to put our faith in Jesus and the coming King of God, not in the elections
13:21of the United States, not in the elections in other countries.
13:25The reality is biblical prophecies are going to be fulfilled, and we're seeing the stage
13:32is being set for that right now.
13:35Short of soon national repentance, which neither Donald Trump nor Kamala Harris has called
13:41for, short of that, the United States is doomed.
13:45They're going the wrong way, and if anyone thinks that Kamala Harris is going to fix
13:50everything or Donald Trump is going to fix everything or their vice presidents are going
13:55to fix anything, you're deceiving themselves, because that's not the case.
14:00We need national repentance, and we need it fairly soon.
14:04Thank you, Dr. Thiel.
14:05For more interviews with Dr. Thiel, in addition to written as well as audio articles, visit
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14:13This is Steve Dupuy for the Bible News Prophecy Program.
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