Where C.J. Stroud Ranks Among NFL Quarterbacks, According to Executives

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NFL executives ranked C.J. Stroud just outside the top five quarterbacks. Do you agree? Clint Stoerner, Ron Hughley and Tyler Milner discussed it here on The Drive.

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00:00every year and they go position by position, which is a fun thing.

00:03You know, this is list time.

00:05And they do their list, which they get to coaches, executives,

00:10and they talk about the top,

00:13the top ten at each position.

00:16By the way, one of those executives, this because this is also

00:19your favorite time where people don't put their name on things.

00:21Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's great.

00:22One executive said that they think that Josh Allen is the most overrated player

00:26in the National Football League.

00:27Huh? That's Patrick Creighton, isn't it?

00:30That's PC. I don't think he does.

00:32He doesn't go that far with it, right?

00:34I know he's not a big guy.

00:36I don't think he thinks.

00:37I don't think Josh says he's the he's the most overrated.

00:40I mean, I don't think Patrick says Josh is the most overrated.

00:43Yeah, I don't think he says most, but he does not have a lot of good things.

00:46He's a lot of Josh.

00:48He's closer to that than those of who think he is.

00:51Well, this is this is the top ten.

00:55You won Borough two.

00:57We talked about who was chasing, who is CJ potentially chased for number two.

01:01They have from coaches and executives, Borough two, Josh Allen, three,

01:06Lamar Jackson, four, Matt Stafford, five.

01:10Clint's favorite, Justin Herbert, six.

01:13Then CJ Stroud checks in at seven with Aaron Rodgers at eight.

01:17Jarrett Golf, nine and Dak Prescott, ten.

01:20Yeah. Your top five is your top five different.

01:23Are you? Absolutely.

01:24Oh, it's absolutely different.

01:27Top four, right?

01:29But you would those guys would be in the top four.

01:31Yeah. What's your top five, then, if that's not?

01:34I would put Aaron Rodgers at five.

01:38CJ at six.

01:39That would be yours.

01:40And then I would then I would push Matthew Stafford and Justin.

01:44Justin Hurt would be down below Jared Golf, probably even below Dak.

01:49Yeah. Yeah. Justin would be ten for me on this list.

01:52Tyler, is there any is there any one?

01:55What? Like, I don't think he hates Justin,

01:57but is there any one player that gets?

02:02Like the props or gets graded out the way that he does

02:06that annoys Clint Moore?

02:09No, no, there is not another one more.

02:12As soon as I saw Herbert slide into that six spot,

02:17I knew Clint was going to have me.

02:21Yeah, I mean, I could you have him in the list.

02:23Would he be in the team?

02:24I don't know who 11 is on this list.

02:26I'm off top of my dome. I can't think of it.

02:28He would be 10 on this list for me.

02:30I mean, there's clearly a huge upside with Justin Herbert, but I mean.

02:35I mean, I'm a quarterback in the league, like throwing go routes

02:38off the back foot, you know, versus soft corners.

02:41I mean, that just that that's not you can't do those kind of things

02:43and be a consistent.

02:45I think Jordan Love was maybe 11

02:48in the Packers.

02:50Jordan would not have been above.

02:52He would not have been above Justin Herbert until that playoff run last year.

02:55Oh, I say run a couple wins, whatever it was like he his his late season

03:00and playoff was was pretty impressive.

03:05So so I would Justin Herbert would be well down the list.

03:07Aaron Rodgers and CJ Stroud would be would be above Matthew.

03:11Yeah, I think the next ones were Jordan Love, Brock Purdy

03:16to was a little further to and and and

03:21and Jags. Yeah, I mean, the way the way

03:23I think you got to look at this thing for me is is especially

03:26when you take into consideration who's who's doing the ranking like the executives,

03:29like they're looking at it from an executive, almost a coach.

03:32Like who strikes fear into an opponent?

03:36Right. And you look at the top guys, Patrick, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen,

03:41Lamar Jackson, like those four guys, whether it's

03:44it's just the overall greatness of Pat Mahomes, the the elite processor

03:49and passer of the football that Joe Burrow is, or it's the combination

03:54of the the passer with the athletic ability with Josh and Lamar.

03:59I mean, those four guys have like a like defensive coordinators like, man,

04:03what the hell are we going to do this week?

04:05You could have a really, really good game plan.

04:08And a couple of these guys are going to pick you apart.

04:09And a couple of them, you could have the perfect game plan.

04:12They could not even be playing well.

04:15But yet you lose by seven, you know, that could be a problem.

04:19So I got to look at it through that lens.

04:21And I can't I can't not have Aaron Rodgers and C.J.

04:26Stroud in that they strike fear into opponents, defensive coordinators.

04:31I can't not have them run in that sentence or in that that

04:37top five, top six.

04:39Look, all of these guys strike fear, but it's got to be

04:42it's got to be a fair level of strike fear and absolute

04:47actual wins in production.

04:49Yeah, right. It's got to be a combination of it.

04:51And I and I get for you.

04:53Yes, Justin Herbert strikes fear.

04:55But the other part doesn't always seem to come.

04:58But the thing with Justin Herbert is like Justin.

05:02If you're a defensive coordinator like Justin has had such skill around him

05:06and he'll make ill advised throws and they make like an ill advised throw.

05:12That just happens to be caught for a touchdown or for a big game

05:16that doesn't scare defensive coordinators.

05:17That was we had you right where we wanted you.

05:21We hit you right as you released the football.

05:23You threw the football off your back foot.

05:26You threw a go route versus a corner that's eight yards off of him

05:29and backpedaling and you somehow completed that.

05:34You completed in the second quarter.

05:35I'm going to ask you to do it again in the fourth quarter

05:37when the game's on the line and the odds are you're not going

05:39you're going to do the same thing.

05:40That's what you're that's how you're wired.

05:42And the odds are you're going to throw it out of bounds

05:44or the guy's going to the guy's not going to make a great catch.

05:47And so like his decision making, even though he has a lot of success,

05:52his decision making is not.

05:56Not that we go to his decision making has defensive coordinators going.

06:01We'll get him.

06:02He'll make a mistake.

06:03So a lot like Josh Allen.

06:04But the thing with Josh Allen, Josh Allen's got to get the the he.

06:07Well, for whatever reason, he all of a sudden started being

06:11like ultimately processing at a higher level and playing the game from the pocket.

06:14And then he then he back.

06:15Then he backtracked again back into the old way of doing things

06:19and trying to drive the football down the field.

06:20And then they hired a new office coordinator and they went back

06:23to using his legs more.

06:24So Josh has got a little bit more of an established way of way

06:28of of using all of the weapons than Justin does right now.

06:31Yeah. You know where I go.

06:33One, I think CJ is is fair.

06:35It's fair to me, fairly put in the seven range like that.

06:39That to me is fair office office first season.

06:42Right. You know, to get right there.

06:44A lot of people felt like Jordan Love and him were in a similar boat.

06:47He's not on the list.

06:48So I think it's fair at seven.

06:50And I know I know that we've had this conversation.

06:53I know Sean Pendergast is listening right now, and I'm sure he'll give me hell.

06:57I just like everything we just talked about.

07:00Like the disrespect

07:04to me, the Dak Prescott is just wild.

07:07Like it's just it's just it's just wild.

07:10Because Matt Stafford five like to me, like, we'll be honest.

07:15Matt Stafford has been Justin Herbert, except for that one year when he got

07:20with Sean McVay and he got, you know, and he got with that with that crew.

07:24And he had he had Sean McVay and two really good receivers last year.

07:28And, you know, they didn't want to play off game.

07:29But, you know, they got to the playoffs.

07:31That was like he's he's been Herbert put up.

07:36Huge, it's weird against winning teams before he got to the Rams,

07:40which is it was just God awful.

07:43Like for him to be five over over Dak, who was second in MVP last year,

07:47let the league get touchdown passes under 10 interceptions

07:50and has been consistent each and every year.

07:53And that's why I say I understand the strike fear thing.

07:55But there's got to be a certain level of strike fear.

07:58And, you know, to put up production and to get wins

08:02and he helps teams lead to wins like that,

08:05like I find it wild that he is in the 10th spot.

08:08Like for me and my my top five would have been the same as they're at best,

08:11especially based off coming into this year.

08:13I would have had Dak at five over Stafford.

08:16Or and I would add Stafford a lot lower.

08:19It's interesting, because the thing is, is with Stafford,

08:22like Stafford is an elite arm in the league.

08:25Yes, he can make that not and never will be right.

08:27And and the interesting thing is, I'll say this to your point.

08:32I think I think Matthew Stafford before going to St.

08:35Lewis, I mean, sorry, before going to L.A.

08:39Was Dak.

08:41Regular season, 5000 yards,

08:43I don't know if you ever had that, but but just loading up the stat sheet

08:45with yards and winning 12 games. No, no, no. You're right.

08:47They weren't.

08:48He wasn't winning games, but statistically just driving the football

08:50down the field, putting up big numbers, nothing in the playoffs.

08:54Yeah, fair, fair, fair.

08:55That's exactly what Dax been is great.

08:57They're in the regular season.

08:58Vertical attack, drive the football down the field.

09:00And then and then you're you're you're unheard from in the in the playoffs.

09:06And then he goes out there.

09:07And so where I'm going with that is like Stafford would not.

09:10Stafford would be 10 on his list if he hadn't gone out there and won a Super Bowl.

09:17He was out two years ago and then last year

09:20were I think they made a nice surprise run, but he's making a nice surprise run.

09:25One's got Mike McCarthy, one's got Sean McVay,

09:28one's got Puka and Cooper Cup, one's got, you know,

09:32I'm not saying Dallas didn't have guys.

09:34He's got a I mean, they got a better running game.

09:36I just it is wild to me.

09:38The season and the seasons Dak has had to where he would be.

09:43He would be 10 on this list.

09:45It's just it's just wild to me.

09:46All right. Coming up.

09:48Big three coming up.

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