00:00Okay, stay with us. Now, we have Abid Zubairi, a law expert with us.
00:04Mr. Abid, thank you very much for having this conversation with us.
00:06The government has decided that it is going to ban PTI as a party.
00:11You tell us, being a law expert, what are the evidences that are enough to ban a party that the government presents?
00:23Mr. Abid.
00:25Hello.
00:26Yes, yes, Mr. Abid, can you hear me now?
00:27I can't hear you.
00:28Can you hear me now?
00:30No, I can't hear you at all.
00:32Okay, we will connect you again, Mr. Abid.
00:35Until then, we would like to convey this important matter to our viewers that the government has decided to ban PTI and the government has decided to bring a case to impose restrictions on PTI.
00:48Atataran held a press conference in which he spoke not only about the ban of parties, but also said that the reference to Article 6 will be filed on the former President Arif Alvi, former Speaker Qasim Suri and Bani PTI, and a review will also be done on the case of Maqsood Sanjeev Singh.
01:05So, Mr. Abid Zubairi, can you hear us now? Is the audio clear now, sir?
01:12Yes, Mr. Abid.
01:13Hello.
01:13Yes, please ask me a question. I couldn't hear you earlier.
01:16Okay, okay.
01:17Mr. Abid, can you tell us as a law expert what are the evidences that the government presents to the PTI that this is the case and that we will ban the party now?
01:30Look, the main ground that the government can take to impose restrictions on a party, which they will have to go to the Supreme Court in 15 days and enter a reference, the Supreme Court will decide.
01:40Article 17 provides you that even if you ban it like this, until the Supreme Court upholds it, you cannot ban any party.
01:48But within that, it is given that such a party, because of which the peace of Pakistan is in danger, or it is involved in terrorism, on which it has been proved that it is a terrorist organization,
01:59there are such things and they will have to prove that it is necessary.
02:03But any court will see how this party has been targeted for the past two years.
02:09And now their leader has been put in jail in every way. If they are ordered to leave, they are caught in some other fake case.
02:17So all these things will see that this malafite, this means that this decision will be based on malice, and this decision is being taken under dictation that from where you want to impose restrictions on that party.
02:29This is what we have been hearing for a long time, they are affecting it, now they have seen that this decision has come from the reserve seats, after that they have decided that now how to get rid of them, so we ban them.
02:42But the second thing we were hearing was that Article 6 will also be applied. Article 6 is not applied in this way to break the law, it has very strict conditions.
02:51And the second thing is our High Treason Act of 1973, until it does not come, Article 6 does not apply to anyone in this way.
02:59Mr. Abid, the evidences presented by Mr. Atta Tarar, do you think they will be enough to satisfy the court, and how do you see the timing of doing all this?
03:12You tell me, I myself pose a question to you, most probably they will say in the case of 9th May that they were involved in 9th May in our country.
03:21In 9th May, till date, in which terrorism court has a person been convicted, you tell me, it has not happened till date.
03:28They have the prosecution of the government, so till date in which court have they proved that PTI or its leaders were involved in the 9th May incidents, this has not been proved in any court.
03:40103 people are in military custody, their case has also been subdued in the Supreme Court, so these are all things, it is not so easy to say.
03:49In the past, the parties were banned, Jamaat-e-Islami was banned, in the time of Ayub Khan, in 1964, the Supreme Court set aside the order which was imposed on him.
04:00Then in the time of Shaheed Bhutto, the ban was imposed on the National Awabi Party, which was set aside by the Supreme Court.
04:08In the 1950s, I think the Communist Party was also banned.
04:11So these are all things, and the court has never banned any political party, which is a big party, which has also won elections, and you have snatched the election from it, you have snatched the reserve seat from it, you have snatched the baton from it, and despite that, you have failed to finish it.
04:27So they said, how to finish it, ban them so that they get free.
04:31But it is the Supreme Court, they have to make a decision according to the law, they will have to prove that the declaration they have given, that this party is against the integrity of Pakistan, they will have to prove it.
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