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00:00On your Friday's Loose Women Live, it's Kay Adams, Judy Love, Dame Kelly Holmes, and Liz
00:30Robson. Hello and welcome to your Friday show. And all of that will be explained in a moment.
00:45Coming up, body hair, don't care, we're revealing the strange and unusual places that women
00:51grow hair as they age. Well, we're not revealing, and apparently I'm going to be removing some
00:57of mine live. Yeah, really. And in a few minutes' time, can pets predict their own death? And
01:04do they actually say farewell to their owners? Don't miss our own compelling stories. Now
01:10last night, England missed out on automatically qualifying for the knockout stages of the
01:14Euros after a 1-0 draw against Denmark. They're still in it, of course. Following a dramatic
01:2090 minutes of play, the Three Lions didn't get the most encouraging send-off as they
01:25left the pitch. Oh, so it was, you know, it wasn't the best of receptions. I have to
01:51say, you know, as a Scot, that's kind of alien to me, because obviously, you know, the Scots
01:56have their ups and downs, as we have had already in this tournament. But the supporters tend
02:01to be 100% behind them, and it's all, well, lads, let's get on to the next one. So we
02:07just don't really see that. Where does that come from? You know, sorry, I'm just shocked,
02:13I suppose. It's just funny how, like, the fans can be not all, but some can be so fickle,
02:18like, they're so behind them, cheering them, and once they make a couple of wrong moves,
02:23like, it just changed to a complete different kind of, look, you heard booing, and it didn't
02:28feel like there was any kind of empathy, and I know, obviously, you want your team to do
02:32well, but they're just people, but they've got amazing skills and gift in their sport.
02:37But have some compassion, especially if you're throwing so hard at them, and you probably
02:42couldn't go on the pitch and do the same thing as them. I know, but...
02:47I mean, I don't know what to say, it's kind of alien to me, but they're very highly paid,
02:52there's a lot of expectation. I mean, should they get that reception, Kelly?
02:56Look, I don't think they should. I think it's herd mentality in football. I mean, really,
03:01football in this country, when it comes to men's football, let's say, it is really aggressive.
03:05I think, from a fan's perspective, it's really aggressive. But I think we as a nation have
03:10been so sort of inbuilt, sort of this England mad culture of football, Britain's coming
03:16home, it's this, it's that. And we expect a lot from our players, you know, because
03:22they are highly paid, but they're highly paid for their clubs, and when they come together
03:27as a nation, you expect them then to bring that kind of standard to the fore. Now, I'm
03:32not saying, are we saying they should be the best in the world? Well, not necessarily,
03:36because everybody else is in that same competition. But I don't think the fans, you know, like
03:40you said, if they go and win the next game, there will be no boos, right? No boos at all.
03:45So, it's vilifying. Given that they've got to go into the next game, and it's a must-win
03:51game, I presume, they have to have a result. Is that going to motivate them? Would that
03:55motivate you as a top sports person, if you got boos? Yeah, but it's not about, really,
04:00the fans. It's going to be now the management, it's going to be about the teams coming together,
04:04lifting their head up and going again. You know what I'm saying? Is booing going to make
04:08them do that? How are you being encouraged? If you own the people that are saying they're
04:12there for you, flying out for you, paying tickets for you, you don't win a game, and
04:15that's it. It's like, boo-hoo, and kind of like, fob you off. What are you thinking,
04:19Linda? Well, I just think it just shows no respect, really. And I think what you have
04:22to remember is they've all come from different football teams, so they're not used to all
04:25playing together before. So, it's the first time that they're all being together on a
04:29football pitch or whatever. Well, for this tournament, I mean, a lot of them have. Yeah,
04:33yeah. But, no, I think it just shows really lack of respect. They're working really hard
04:37and they're trying their hardest, obviously. Everyone's trying their hardest. Yeah. And
04:41they can't always win. There's always got to be someone that loses, hasn't there? The
04:44thing is, they should be winning against Denmark. I mean, they should have won. Really? Realistically,
04:48in football, they should have won that game. League-wise and stuff. And that's the issue.
04:52Well, they didn't lose it, did they? Because it was a draw. Yeah, but they didn't. I suppose
04:58that you can be booed in any arena. I mean, you must have stood in front of some tough
05:02crowds. Linda, you must have stood in front. I've been heckled, and you always have to
05:06assess the situation. Because sometimes, you know, even with football, it's not just the
05:10person at the front. It's all the technical stuff and stuff that's going on behind, like
05:13it says management. So, I've been heckled, but I think when I step on the stage, I give
05:16that kind of power look that they know, OK, let me stop because this queen's not going
05:19to rap with me. Do you know what I mean? So, you have your little moments. It's just how
05:23you deal with it in that time, you know? It's just hard. It's just really hard to watch,
05:28and we just hope that the boys are OK. Because you've got to think about them off the pitch,
05:31and when you're there in a beer and a lager, you're not really thinking about that. You
05:35just want your team to understand that. You're right, actually. But give them that same love
05:38and let them know, like, listen, even though what you go through, we're still going to
05:41be up behind you. That is one thing that people forget. They will be wanting to win. As individuals,
05:46they want to do better. It's just collectively, as a team, we want more as England. Go on,
05:51Linda, motivate them. No, I've never been booed, but I have been laughed at. In a nice
05:58way or not a nice way? No, not in a nice way. Because I had to do opera singing once. Me
06:03and Pauline Quirk were doing opera singing with Leslie Garrett, and there was like 5,000
06:08people. That was your first mistake, wasn't it? Yeah, there was 5,000 people. There was
06:155,000 people at the arena where we was, and Leslie Garrett sung first, and you have to
06:22remember, we'd only rehearsed with a piano. All of a sudden, we had a big orchestra there.
06:24What were you singing? Royal Britannia. Oh. And I have got the worst voice in the world.
06:29Here we go. Go on.
06:38And my kids were in the audience, and the audience were killing themselves laughing.
06:42I didn't think I sounded that bad, but obviously I did. Oh, that is tough. It was tough. That
06:48is tough. Now, to many, losing a pet can cause as much pain as losing a loved one, but do
06:55pets know when they are about to die? A biologist who has been studying the theory for 25 years
07:01has collected numerous examples of pets who seemingly know that the end is nigh. They
07:07include a Jack Russell who did a final lap of the garden, and a cat who apparently sat
07:12on the lap of each family member before passing away. I actually find this too difficult to
07:19speak about, because the thought of my beautiful bee leaving us is really hard for me, and
07:24I know you have been through it a few times, Linda. Yeah. Do you think they know? I think
07:29we had a staffie called George, and he was 11 years old, and we absolutely adored him.
07:34I had the loveliest nature. My granddaughters loved him and everything, and I used to treat
07:38him a lot. On his birthday, he always got steak and sausages, and then obviously he
07:42was getting older and older. There he is there. I was going away, and he tried to get in the
07:46case with me as well, but no, it was really, really difficult. But he loved the roof terrace
07:52where we were, so he just took himself out onto the roof terrace, laid on the floor.
07:56We all sat around him, and then the vet came, and it was time to say goodbye. Was that his
08:03place, the roof terrace? He loved the roof terrace. Yeah, yeah, he was out there all
08:06the time. Oh, gosh. But you love your dog like you love your kids, don't you? He's part
08:12of the family. I can't even think about it. Kelly, have you ever been through something
08:15like that? Yeah, twice. Once with a dog. So when I was an athlete, for two years, my friend
08:21looked after two of my dogs, because I was coming back and forth from South Africa, and
08:25I was away for two months at this time. My friend called me and says, Kelly, I'm really
08:30sorry, but Barney, I think he's really ill. I think I'm going to have to take him to the
08:34vets. And I was like, oh, surely he must be all right. And she went, no, no, no. And I
08:37was coming home, and she said, hasn't eaten for two days, hasn't got up off his bed for
08:41two days, really ill, just really thing. Put him in the car, and I came back. And she went,
08:46will you come to the vets with me? So I was like, yeah, you know, really sobbing. And
08:51opened the back door, and he jumped out like a puppy. He literally jumped out like a puppy.
08:57She was like, he was on his deathbed, deathbed. And I was like, well, clearly not. Anyway,
09:04he was with me for about two weeks, and then he went downhill. Took him to vets. He now
09:08had a brain tumor. But the vet said, he thinks that because he was on his deathbed, but I
09:13had come home, he was almost holding on and waiting to be with me for two weeks. And then,
09:18I didn't realize that animals have real emotions. I know it sounds bad, but like proper emotions.
09:24And I've got alpacas, as everyone knows. Weird, yes. And I had six. And in lockdown,
09:31fudge, I found him in the middle of the field, like frothing up the mouth. And I went, ran
09:37over, like screaming. I was so upset. And his head was on me. So I'm holding, calling
09:42the vet. Licorice, the black one, came up, knelt over him with this awful cry.
09:48And this was the brother of the...
09:49The brother of him. Like, this weird cry, but kneeling right on him. And that broke
09:55my heart, because I just didn't, like, they're alpacas. I mean, I just didn't realize.
09:59I remember watching one show, I swear to God, I've never cried so hard, apart from when
10:03my mum passed away. It was about elephants. I love elephants. And there was like a little
10:08family of them, and they got attacked, and the daddy elephant was trying to protect them.
10:12And so, the mummy elephant and the babies went away. And then, I can't remember who
10:16the narrator was, but they were saying, and now the mother is trying to find her husband,
10:20or whatever you want to call him.
10:21Sounds like it was David Attenborough.
10:22Yeah, maybe it was him. Just David. And so, they were falling behind. But literally, she
10:27was like half a mile away, and she could smell his scent. And the elephant started to do
10:32this scream, this big kind of scream. As she got closer, even to think about it, the scream
10:37got louder. And as she got to, like, where his body was, and she leaned and was screaming.
10:43Oh, it makes me feel emotional. And she lied down on, like, her husband, and was crying.
10:48And I just remember thinking, I can't believe this is how animals, like, have this emotion.
10:54Yes, go on, vegans.
10:58Do you think it's us as humans trying to make sense of death? Do you think that's what we're
11:04trying to do, that we're trying to make sense of it, and we're trying to kind of make it
11:08a human experience? I don't know. Do you think humans know?
11:11You know, it's a hard conversation to have, but I think humans do go for it. You know,
11:15I remember when my mum was passing, and I reflected on this afterwards, there was that
11:20same week, she was coming in, she was looking at us, but she was looking at every single
11:25part of our bodies. I could see her looking at my hair, my eyes, my hands. So, she must
11:31have known she was going, but she was just taking everything in. And you always hear
11:35when someone says, oh, someone's, oh, auntie's going, come and see her, she's hanging on,
11:39and they see that relative that they haven't seen, and they usually pass away, like an
11:43hour or so after. So, I think we are, that beings have had that spiritual nature, and
11:48we can know sometimes.
11:50Yeah, I suppose the only, I mean, I don't know. Who knows? We don't know the answer
11:55to this one, do we? And I know a lot of people have these stories, but I also know there's
11:59people who maybe weren't there when a loved one passed, you know, and it's terrible. I
12:06don't think anyone should feel any guilt about that or feel that for some reason they chose
12:10to hang on for the brother and they didn't hang on for this one or whatever, because
12:14sometimes the body just does what the body does, you know, and we don't really have control
12:19over it. But, I mean, I guess whatever makes you feel better about losing, whether it's
12:23a loved pet or it's, you know, a loved one.
12:25What we do have is the control over the time and spend it with the loved ones when we can.
12:29That's the most important.
12:30Good point, Judy.
12:32Coming up next, is it time to finally end the female body hair taboo? The surprising
12:39is that some women actually grow hair later in life and apparently I'll finally be getting
12:45rid of my own beloved body hair live. Don't you move a plucking muscle.
13:02Monday EastEnder, podcaster and now a loose woman, soap legend Natalie Cassidy joins
13:08us for the first time as a guest panellist. She'll be looking back at her incredible three
13:12decades on Albert Square, chatting about family life and of course discussing all the topics
13:17of the day. Natalie Cassidy, Monday on Loose Women.
13:21Hello again. Coming up, it's the big moment. I'll be removing my stray body hair live.
13:34Stop that for goodness sake. There's no need for that.
13:37I know she's been going on about it for ages. We're going to discuss the unusual places
13:43that women grow hair later in life. I have to say also, you sent some really, really
13:50moving texts about your pets passing away, which we've all been reading. So they're really
13:56lovely. So thank you for doing that. But it is competition time. It is our biggest one
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15:48so don't miss your chance to enter. Now have you noticed increased body hair as you've
15:54got older? Well it's been revealed that a staggering 75% of women do and there are various
15:59reasons including the menopause, hormonal changes and certain medication. So Linda,
16:05have you got bits sprouting where they shouldn't be sprouting?
16:09No, well I've hardly got any hair now. I think as you get older you lose all your hair. I
16:13used to have a lovely brown bushy.
16:18Now all I've got, now all I've got is a few stragglers.
16:25But I think as you get older you do lose it more, don't you?
16:28Bald like a plucked chicken.
16:30Yeah, yeah.
16:32Do you still get it like underarm and stuff?
16:34Not really a lot and I haven't got any on my arms anymore. I still have to shave my
16:37legs but then I only do the front because I don't care about the back.
16:42Are we talking about your legs?
16:43Yeah. I think hair's there for a reason. It's there to look after the parts. Like it's the
16:48leaf around the flower, the lawn around the house.
16:52If there's too much bush and lawn you can't enter the house.
17:04Judy, do you have anything where it shouldn't be?
17:06Well I don't know. If someone calls me later they might find out.
17:13Look, I just remember one time.
17:16I'm such a prude.
17:18One time, yeah. This is why it's good to have good friends. I've got this really good friend,
17:21Kel. And this was about a year after I'd lost my mum. I had my baby, split up, all down,
17:26depressed, hormones all over the place. And I had this tooth taken out. I was lying down,
17:30coming out of it. You know when you're coming out of it and you're a bit dazed because they
17:33put you to sleep. And I was like, oh. And she looked at me and she went, babe. And she
17:36went, oh hell no. That's got to go. I was like, what is it? She goes, all that hair
17:41under your chin, boggling in the wind.
17:44What in the wind?
17:45Boggling, boggling.
17:47In the wind, it's got to go. I was like, oh my God. Because your hormones had a few hairs.
17:51And I was like, but I was grateful that she told me.
17:53Oh, blimmin' A.
17:55I know.
17:56See, I've never been hairy. I mean, I've never been hairy. Like, I don't have hairy arms
18:00or whatever. You know, the bit. And so, I know we've spoken about my little.
18:05I quite like it.
18:07What do you like about it?
18:08Take it off.
18:09Because it shows I'm still alive. Do you know what I mean?
18:12Get rid of it now.
18:13No, it's got to go in a bit.
18:14Does your hubby like it?
18:15Does your hubby like it?
18:16I don't know. I don't ask them.
18:18Oh my gosh.
18:19Get rid of it. I don't want to get rid of it.
18:20Look at that.
18:21You're as smooth as air than you are.
18:23No, I've been taking collagen. And I'll tell you, they grow a lot down there.
18:29Thank you for that.
18:30No, I was with my friend yesterday, who is literally about to drop. She's out here, right?
18:35And she said to me, oh, I've been made all pretty for when I have it.
18:39What do you mean, made all pretty?
18:41Pretty.
18:42She's had a whole full Hollywood.
18:44Wow.
18:45Hollywood. That's like the back side.
18:47Yes, we know what it is.
18:51We don't need action.
18:54I say, but that's painful. The whole lot.
18:57She went, don't you have it done?
19:01We're not playing charades.
19:03Maybe we should do that with Kay.
19:05Take it off. Take it off. Take it off. Take it off.
19:11Take it off. Take it off. Take it off. Take it off.
19:15What's that?
19:16I've got it.
19:17Take it off.
19:18Anyone choosing now, take it off.
19:20Oh, no.
19:21I've got a box. I've got a box for keepers.
19:23Take it off. Take it off. Take it off.
19:26Hold that.
19:27Hang on, hang on. What's this?
19:28We've got a box for keepers.
19:30Oh, I've got a keepsake box. That's nice.
19:33Oh, my God. These are bent. Hold on.
19:35Make sure they're bent the right way.
19:37Do you know how to work those?
19:39Don't be doing that. Don't be doing that.
19:41Right, keep it still. Hold it out.
19:43Right, that way. No, that way. That's it. Ready?
19:47Oh, my God, I'm shaking.
19:51Oh, oh, oh.
19:53I've got you. What are you doing?
19:55I'm not doing it. It's like...
19:57CHEERING
20:01We've got it. We've got it.
20:05In the box there it is.
20:08Oh.
20:10Actually, girls, that's lovely. Thank you.
20:14Thank you, actually.
20:15Please don't try this at home.
20:17Please don't try this at home.
20:19You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome.
20:21That time was special.
20:24Is this the most bonkers show on television?
20:26Yes!
20:27Or what?
20:28Yes, it is, and thank goodness for it.
20:30That is it for today.
20:33I know. It's shorter because of the racing.
20:36But you're happy now, Linda?
20:38I'm very happy now. Thank God for that.
20:40We're back to our usual schedule next week
20:42with guests like Naomi Campbell, Sir Ed Davey,
20:44Paul Sinner, Shirley Ballas,
20:46and Natalie Cassidy becomes a loose woman.
20:48For now, have a fabulous weekend.
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